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Medrea
10003 Posts
On March 07 2012 10:39 LukeSkywalkah wrote: Another question if you don't mind. If I am willing to upgrade to i7 2600k, would it be worth it? Not unless you do a lot of streaming (2500k streams just fine) or a lot of video editing work where multithreading is worth your time. No gaming performance can be had for that upgrade. So for the $100 you are better off upgrading the GPU. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 07 2012 10:52 Medrea wrote: Not unless you do a lot of streaming (2500k streams just fine) or a lot of video editing work where multithreading is worth your time. No gaming performance can be had for that upgrade. So for the $100 you are better off upgrading the GPU. Correction: No gaming performance that can be found without extensive benchmarking. I agree with the conclusion 100%. | ||
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Medrea
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Uhm. But yeah, unless you're talking dual core w/ HT vs dual core without it, it's not worth considering for most gamers. For quads, it's pretty irrelevant for most people. | ||
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LukeSkywalkah
United States8 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:05 Medrea wrote: I meant to say Hyperthreading anyway. But Multithreading is almost as correct. is SLI worth it? Been reading about it a little | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:13 LukeSkywalkah wrote: is SLI worth it? Been reading about it a little Not for most people for single displays. Extreme resolutions, or low pixel densities at close distances are the main times you'd need a multi-GPU solution, unless you benchmark for fun. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:10 skyR wrote: Ivybridge preview: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626 Good bump in its IGP. But not quite the %200 they were predicting. Closer to 40 percent. Looks like nominal performance gain, less than 5 percent, but looks higher considering the stock clock value is of course higher. Then again by the same token you can probably overclock it a little farther. Power decreases are nominal. EDIT: Actually now that I look again the drop under load from Sandy Bridge i7 is pretty good. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:13 LukeSkywalkah wrote: is SLI worth it? Been reading about it a little Thats for people where one flagship GPU just isn't enough. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 07 2012 11:24 Medrea wrote: Thats for people where one flagship GPU just isn't enough. With rare weird exceptions, but most of those are beyond the question I think. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
I got a new modem but I am finding out that my Downstream is channel bonded (or not bonded, I dunno), and my download speeds show it. Or rather the new DOCSIS doesnt seem to be working since I only have one active channel. I dunno I need help. Don't want to make a thread but I guess I will. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
So basically, what priceline would I be looking at? Glimpse through recent posts seems to suggest around $1200. I'm wondering if the prices on the 600 series will stabilize near what the 500 series is currently at anytime soon, say by end of April. Note that I don't really care for an SSD unless it actually has a big impact on playing while streaming... since I don't really need the increased response time in my other activites. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
As far as GPU goes, the real question is what other games you're into. Otherwise you can get a 6870 or something and that should be more than enough. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 07 2012 15:27 MisterFred wrote: Not for SC2. It doesn't take much of a graphics card to run SC2 on ultra. You probably can't play & stream ultra SC2 late game reliably at 60 FPS with any setup these days, definitely not with team games. But the reason is that SC2 heavily taxes the CPU and can't use more than 2 cores. As far as GPU goes, the real question is what other games you're into. Otherwise you can get a 6870 or something and that should be more than enough. Well I dunno what might be on the horizon, so I want to overshoot SC2 a bit. That is why I'm wondering if it's worth waiting for say 660ti to become priced around what a 560ti is (whenever it ends up being released in april...) | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
CPU: i5-2500k + cooler Motherboard: Asrock P67 RAM: GSkill 8gb 1600mhz GPU: MSI 560ti 2gb PSU: Rosewill Stallion 450w Case: Cooler Master case HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb Total comes out to $886.79 with shipping (includes a dvd drive). Sounds like a good starting point, and fairly low price, so I can change parts in a year or two when 600 series or whatever is cheaper. Comments? Getting Windows 7 super cheap from university 8) Also, is there any such thing as a 17" desktop monitor that is 1920x1080? I swear my skill goes up so much from playing on 17" sized monitor. I have larger monitors as secondary. | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
You wont be using 2gb of vram unless youre gaming on 3 monitors at once. edit: saves you $30 | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
As for what's on the horizon... *shrug.* The toughest games out now (BF3, Shogun 2, etc) will give high-end cards a heavy workout at the highest settings, but still look great at high settings, which the 560Ti should be able to handle. There is one issue with the 560Ti. I've seen a number of people complain about severely bad performance with the Unreal 3 engine. I think Tera, an MMO, was the most recent one mentioned. But most people don't play Unreal 3 games and the 560Ti has an otherwise good reputation. No idea on the monitor. I see your point though. My mini-map awareness in SC2 is absolute crap compared to back in the day with Brood War, even though I'm better at just about everything else, and I sometimes wonder if it's the larger monitor I have now. Probably not though. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 07 2012 17:02 Nabutso wrote: You'll want to stick with a 1gb version ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 ). You wont be using 2gb of vram unless youre gaming on 3 monitors at once. Well I mean it is a $40 diff, and like I said I was planning on buying a slight overhead for potential new games that I might play with friends. For example I've heard that sometimes Battlefield 3 takes up a gig and a half or more. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 07 2012 17:03 MisterFred wrote: Looks mostly good. Poor choice of GPU though. 1GB of VRAM is enough for 1920x1080. If you want to get the high end cooler on a 560Ti, there's a 1GB Twin Frozr II and Asus DCII both at roughly $235. So that should be the same performance for $30 savings or so. As for what's on the horizon... *shrug.* The toughest games out now (BF3, Shogun 2, etc) will give high-end cards a heavy workout at the highest settings, but still look great at high settings, which the 560Ti should be able to handle. There is one issue with the 560Ti. I've seen a number of people complain about severely bad performance with the Unreal 3 engine. I think Tera, an MMO, was the most recent one mentioned. But most people don't play Unreal 3 games and the 560Ti has an otherwise good reputation. No idea on the monitor. I see your point though. My mini-map awareness in SC2 is absolute crap compared to back in the day with Brood War, even though I'm better at just about everything else, and I sometimes wonder if it's the larger monitor I have now. Probably not though. Definitely is the monitor for me. The very moment I switched to a 17" laptop monitor after years of using 21" and above, my awareness went so sharp. I almost never got caught by drops or any sort of multipronged shit - which is surprising, given how conditioned you'd expect me to be to larger monitors after years of use. Back on a 23" atm, and my awareness is so terrible. I don't play anything with Unreal 3 engine as far as I know, so I should be ok there. | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
On March 07 2012 17:03 EtherealDeath wrote: Well I mean it is a $40 diff, and like I said I was planning on buying a slight overhead for potential new games that I might play with friends. For example I've heard that sometimes Battlefield 3 takes up a gig and a half or more. Vram is different than your system RAM. a 2gb version will give you absolutely no performance difference (not slight, or 1%, 0%, absolutely nothing). edit: unless you run out of vram, which won't happen unless you have an absurdly high resolution (higher than 1080p) | ||
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