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On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this.  Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking.
If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later.
I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance.
As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520.
Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D.
You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit.
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On March 06 2012 07:53 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this. Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking. If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later. I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance. As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520. Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D. You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit.
Thank you so much man!
Would it be worth waiting for the 7850/7870 to launch, or should I be going for something older? (if the 6950 is unavailable)
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7850 and 7870 will be available during the 2nd last week of March. The 7850 has a MSRP of $250, so similar to a 6950. Though I expect DirectCu II, Twin Frozr III, Double D, etc variants will be closer to $300. So it may not be worth it if you can get a GTX 560 Ti for around $200.
You can check out the various articles to see comparisons between the various cards and learn more about it to help in your decision making: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625 , http://techreport.com/articles.x/22573
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On March 06 2012 08:14 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 07:53 skyR wrote:On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this. Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking. If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later. I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance. As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520. Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D. You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit. Thank you so much man! Would it be worth waiting for the 7850/7870 to launch, or should I be going for something older? (if the 6950 is unavailable)
7870 performance (as 6950/560 ti was before) is probably the best (next gen) sweet spot for gamers, anything higher and it's usually not worth the extra cost. Not to say that the 7870 isn't overpriced now though. Not sure what it lands on but i suppose anything under 300$ is worth the price.
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incredibly happy with the i3 2100 + amd radeon 6850 build. the game is actually enjoyable now and i no longer need to borrow my brothers laptop to game in less than ideal conditions. This is gonna make a world of difference in the quality of my gaming, thanks skyR.
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Building my own computer for the first time. Need some help. Finally branching off of macbook!
What is your budget?
$800-$1200
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming and browsing the web! Streaming, SC2, Diablo 3, Dota2, Skyrim.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Around 2 years or so!
When do you plan on building it?
3-4 weeks from now.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Honestly, I don't know. I want too but I don't know too much about it!
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes I do!
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
If it is necessary, yes!
Where are you buying your parts from?
Most likely NewEgg and Fry's if somethings are cheaper there!
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On March 06 2012 07:53 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this. Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking. + Show Spoiler +If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later.
I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance.
As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520.
Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D.
You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit.
I added in a lot of the stuff you recommended, got a more complete looking build now, thank you 
Gigabyte GA-P61-USB3-B3 - £60 ($95)
Intel Core i5 2500 Sandy Bridge Quad Core 3.3ghz - £161 ($255)
Radeon HD 7850/7870 - £190-£220? ($300-$350?) or Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 1GB - £220 ($350)
Kingston Hyper X 2x4GB RAM 1333 - £37 ($59)
Bitfenix Merc Alpha case - £33 ($52)
Neo Eco 520W PSU - £51 ($80)
Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD - £59 ($94)
Dell Ultrasharp 23" - £180 ($285)
Is there anything here you think I should change?
Total would be around £800 ($1250) depending on what card I end up getting.
Seems a little expensive to me, but I've been told Scan/Amazon is the best place to get parts in the UK.
I will probably wait for the 7850/7870 to come out, because there's only one 6950 left in stock and it's pretty pricey.
Edit : Oh and thanks for those articles on the new cards, they look worth the wait
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this is my current rig:
windows 7
gigabyte z69p-ds3 mobo
i5 2500k cpu
8gb ram
amd radeon hd 6770 1gb gddr5
reso: 1920x1080
i feel like im being held back a bit. do i just need a gpu upgrade? i can get high settings on skyrim/sc2 which is all i play. will upgrading my gpu have an affect on my ability to stream? because im having a hard time streaming how id like(at least standard 480 but i want to be able to stream 720) and i have good upload download speed like 50/10. if i want to stream sc2 HAS to be at low and i can feel this extremely subtle lag. it barely lags but i can almost always feel it. i can easily play through it thats how minor it is but obviously id rather not play through it. any help?
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On March 06 2012 14:49 aBstractx wrote:
this is my current rig:
windows 7
gigabyte z69p-ds3 mobo
i5 2500k cpu
8gb ram
amd radeon hd 6770 1gb gddr5
reso: 1920x1080
i feel like im being held back a bit. do i just need a gpu upgrade? i can get high settings on skyrim/sc2 which is all i play. will upgrading my gpu have an affect on my ability to stream? because im having a hard time streaming how id like(at least standard 480 but i want to be able to stream 720) and i have good upload download speed like 50/10. if i want to stream sc2 HAS to be at low and i can feel this extremely subtle lag. it barely lags but i can almost always feel it. i can easily play through it thats how minor it is but obviously id rather not play through it. any help?
If you mean what is the bottleneck of your system, then yes, it is the gpu.
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On March 06 2012 14:49 aBstractx wrote:
this is my current rig:
windows 7
gigabyte z69p-ds3 mobo
i5 2500k cpu
8gb ram
amd radeon hd 6770 1gb gddr5
reso: 1920x1080
i feel like im being held back a bit. do i just need a gpu upgrade? i can get high settings on skyrim/sc2 which is all i play. will upgrading my gpu have an affect on my ability to stream? because im having a hard time streaming how id like(at least standard 480 but i want to be able to stream 720) and i have good upload download speed like 50/10. if i want to stream sc2 HAS to be at low and i can feel this extremely subtle lag. it barely lags but i can almost always feel it. i can easily play through it thats how minor it is but obviously id rather not play through it. any help?
On March 06 2012 14:51 Josh_rakoons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 14:49 aBstractx wrote:
this is my current rig:
windows 7
gigabyte z69p-ds3 mobo
i5 2500k cpu
8gb ram
amd radeon hd 6770 1gb gddr5
reso: 1920x1080
i feel like im being held back a bit. do i just need a gpu upgrade? i can get high settings on skyrim/sc2 which is all i play. will upgrading my gpu have an affect on my ability to stream? because im having a hard time streaming how id like(at least standard 480 but i want to be able to stream 720) and i have good upload download speed like 50/10. if i want to stream sc2 HAS to be at low and i can feel this extremely subtle lag. it barely lags but i can almost always feel it. i can easily play through it thats how minor it is but obviously id rather not play through it. any help?
If you mean what is the bottleneck of your system, then yes, it is the gpu.
could anyone reference me a great gpu?
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GPU has no part in streaming performance.
You should be able to stream 1080p if you've overclocked your 2500k.
Your GPU is the bottleneck when playing Skyrim and maybe very high SC2 settings.
You should read thegunrun's guide to streaming and tweak some settings, your specs are way fine.
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On March 06 2012 14:26 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2012 07:53 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this. Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking. + Show Spoiler +If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later.
I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance.
As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520.
Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D.
You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit. I added in a lot of the stuff you recommended, got a more complete looking build now, thank you Gigabyte GA-P61-USB3-B3 - £60 ($95) Intel Core i5 2500 Sandy Bridge Quad Core 3.3ghz - £161 ($255) Radeon HD 7850/7870 - £190-£220? ($300-$350?) or Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 1GB - £220 ($350) Kingston Hyper X 2x4GB RAM 1333 - £37 ($59) Bitfenix Merc Alpha case - £33 ($52) Neo Eco 520W PSU - £51 ($80) Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD - £59 ($94) Dell Ultrasharp 23" - £180 ($285) Is there anything here you think I should change? Total would be around £800 ($1250) depending on what card I end up getting. Seems a little expensive to me, but I've been told Scan/Amazon is the best place to get parts in the UK. I will probably wait for the 7850/7870 to come out, because there's only one 6950 left in stock and it's pretty pricey. Edit : Oh and thanks for those articles on the new cards, they look worth the wait
XFX Core Edition 550 would be better for roughly the same: http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-P1-550S-XXB9-PRO550W-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/
The P61 seems somewhat expensive, Asrock H61M U3S3 can be had for less: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-H61M-U3S3-Micro-ATX-motherboard/dp/B004S0CTNE
GSkill Ripjaws X is less expensive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-Ripjaws-DDR3-1333-Dual/dp/B002X578GE/
Both the 7850 and 7870 has similar launch MSRP to that of 6950 and 6970 so $250 and $350 respectively, though I'd expect the Twin Frozr III, DirectCu II, Windforce, and Double D variants to be closer to 7850 to be closer to $300 and 7870 to be closer to $400
I didn't check pricing on the rest.
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On March 05 2012 19:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Very difficult especially if its a low end TV without 1080P minimum. The idea behind TVs having god awful resolution is that you sit back far enough that higher resolutions provide relatively insignificant benefit. Having such a low resolution for a monitor means you'll never get fantastic image quality if you're sitting close.
Also take into account the lack of 4:4:4 subsampling support - this means anything red, blue, or uses either of those colours will look smudged. Calibration won't help in the colour department that much either since the LED backlights in low end models are god awful and are loved by manufacturers since it allows them to skimp on costs in a billion areas from the backlight itself to the minimum requirements of the internal electronics.
TVs that support desktops and laptops directly will generally use 4:4:4 support in "desktop mode" or something similarly named. If your TV does not have 4:4:4 support, then it'll look bad at best and no amount of calibration will solve its problems.
ah ok
but if the games look alright, and its just namely when i watch videos through youtube or something, is that just my calibration setting in catalyst control center then?
Cuz my biggest problem right now is youtube vids being kinda blurry/not sharp.
Thanks again for any help (I'll have to try that site recommended to see if that helps any)
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On March 06 2012 15:41 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 14:26 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2012 07:53 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.
What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.
What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC
What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least
When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now
Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.
Thanks I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this. Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far.. Intel core i5 2500 CPU Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU 4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking. + Show Spoiler +If you aren't overclocking than you can get a H61 or H67 motherboard. The primary difference between the two is H67 has SATA 6Gbps while H61 does not. SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are going to add an SSD later.
I'm not sure if Radeon HD6950 will be available to you since AMD is clearing inventory for the launch of 7850 and 7870 which will be replacing the 6950 and 6970. Getting 2GB 6950 also is not necessary for 1080p and especially not if you aren't considering CrossfireX. 1GB variant will be less expensive and offer identical performance.
As for power supply, you can look for Superflower Golden Green 450, XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Earthwatts 500D / High Current Gamer 520 / Neo Eco 520, and Seasonic S12II 520.
Case, just get one that you like. Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, and Bitfenix Merc Alpha are some that are recommended for budget builds. Some more expensive cases with sound dampening material are Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280, and Corsair 550D.
You want a 2x4GB kit, not 4x2GB kit. I added in a lot of the stuff you recommended, got a more complete looking build now, thank you Gigabyte GA-P61-USB3-B3 - £60 ($95) Intel Core i5 2500 Sandy Bridge Quad Core 3.3ghz - £161 ($255) Radeon HD 7850/7870 - £190-£220? ($300-$350?) or Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 1GB - £220 ($350) Kingston Hyper X 2x4GB RAM 1333 - £37 ($59) Bitfenix Merc Alpha case - £33 ($52) Neo Eco 520W PSU - £51 ($80) Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD - £59 ($94) Dell Ultrasharp 23" - £180 ($285) Is there anything here you think I should change? Total would be around £800 ($1250) depending on what card I end up getting. Seems a little expensive to me, but I've been told Scan/Amazon is the best place to get parts in the UK. I will probably wait for the 7850/7870 to come out, because there's only one 6950 left in stock and it's pretty pricey. Edit : Oh and thanks for those articles on the new cards, they look worth the wait XFX Core Edition 550 would be better for roughly the same: http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-P1-550S-XXB9-PRO550W-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/The P61 seems somewhat expensive, Asrock H61M U3S3 can be had for less: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-H61M-U3S3-Micro-ATX-motherboard/dp/B004S0CTNEGSkill Ripjaws X is less expensive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-Ripjaws-DDR3-1333-Dual/dp/B002X578GE/Both the 7850 and 7870 has similar launch MSRP to that of 6950 and 6970 so $250 and $350 respectively, though I'd expect the Twin Frozr III, DirectCu II, Windforce, and Double D variants to be closer to 7850 to be closer to $300 and 7870 to be closer to $400 I didn't check pricing on the rest.
Thank you so much for the help. You really should get a TL star or something for all the work you do around here.
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On March 06 2012 16:02 spscannon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 19:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Very difficult especially if its a low end TV without 1080P minimum. The idea behind TVs having god awful resolution is that you sit back far enough that higher resolutions provide relatively insignificant benefit. Having such a low resolution for a monitor means you'll never get fantastic image quality if you're sitting close.
Also take into account the lack of 4:4:4 subsampling support - this means anything red, blue, or uses either of those colours will look smudged. Calibration won't help in the colour department that much either since the LED backlights in low end models are god awful and are loved by manufacturers since it allows them to skimp on costs in a billion areas from the backlight itself to the minimum requirements of the internal electronics.
TVs that support desktops and laptops directly will generally use 4:4:4 support in "desktop mode" or something similarly named. If your TV does not have 4:4:4 support, then it'll look bad at best and no amount of calibration will solve its problems. ah ok but if the games look alright, and its just namely when i watch videos through youtube or something, is that just my calibration setting in catalyst control center then? Cuz my biggest problem right now is youtube vids being kinda blurry/not sharp. Thanks again for any help (I'll have to try that site recommended to see if that helps any)
As I said the image quality is going to suffer due to the:
1) awful resolution
2) lack of 4:4:4 subsampling support
3) awful resolution
You can play around with the gamma settings and RGB levels but at the end of the day, if you're using it like a monitor instead of a proper TV, the image quality is going to be awful.
There are people who do actually use TVs as monitors and even they don't recommend it. You quite literally need a proper hardware calibrator tool and a lot of time to tweak the image correctly. Its literally impossible without the hardware calibrator...they're like $150 minimum, which at that point you should just get a monitor.
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gtx 680 specifications apparently released:
GK104
28 nm
1 536 CUDA cores
256-bit memory bus
2,0 GB memory GDDR5
705 MHz core clock
1 411 MHz shader clock
6,0 GHz memory frequency
192 GB/s bandwidth
6+8-pin contacts
2x DVI, HDMI, DP
Release is 23 mars 2012. The number of CUDA cores is pretty overwhelming, 3 times more than gtx 580 (which has 512 CUDA cores). Lets see how it translates into performance...
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Hi can someone help me build a good $400 PC. I play WC3 Dota, some football(soccer) manager games and few other newer games, but I don't mind playing them on low or medium.
I don't particularly need a graphic card as I'll probably but one standalone few months later.
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I have a feeling Kepler is gonna be another monolithic power hungry series. People are starting to pay attention to power consumption now and that could come back to hurt nVidia at every pricepoint except for the super flagship which obviously no one cares about power.
I dont think I need to mention low end models.
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