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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 10:04:52
March 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#19281
Out of curiosity, anyone know a good way to do calibration on a monitor/video card that is free or do you just kind of eyeball it. I'm asking because I'm using a tv for a monitor atm and I thought that was why the image was blurry/crappy, but after tinkering a bit with the video card settings in amd catalyst control center it got a lot better. However, still having some issues with videos being kinda blocky/color not perfect/not exactly clear. So I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions to how to fix it. Games seem to have gotten a lot better after tinkering with it but probably still not perfect.
My tv can only do 720p (so im sure thats a factor). My graphics card is a hd radeon 6870. So any hints to how I can maximize my tv as a monitor till I get a replacement? Mostly concerned about the videos not being clear. Its not terrible but its not as good as my laptop so that is saying something considering my laptop is pretty crappy. (uses intel integrated graphics for dual core 2.0 ghz)
Thanks again for any help you guys can give me.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 10:18:49
March 05 2012 10:17 GMT
#19282
This website offers a fairly comprehensive eyeballing test for LCD monitors. I don't know how well it extends to tv screens, but it's worth a try. The website also explains many of the concepts behind the tests.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

edit: Make sure you have your computer set to the correct resolution (1280x720 for a 720p monitor). If possible, use a digital connection (HDMI) to connect computer and tv.
Such flammable little insects!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 10:33:53
March 05 2012 10:20 GMT
#19283
Very difficult especially if its a low end TV without 1080P minimum. The idea behind TVs having god awful resolution is that you sit back far enough that higher resolutions provide relatively insignificant benefit. Having such a low resolution for a monitor means you'll never get fantastic image quality if you're sitting close.

Also take into account the lack of 4:4:4 subsampling support - this means anything red, blue, or uses either of those colours will look smudged. Calibration won't help in the colour department that much either since the LED backlights in low end models are god awful and are loved by manufacturers since it allows them to skimp on costs in a billion areas from the backlight itself to the minimum requirements of the internal electronics.

TVs that support desktops and laptops directly will generally use 4:4:4 support in "desktop mode" or something similarly named. If your TV does not have 4:4:4 support, then it'll look bad at best and no amount of calibration will solve its problems.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 11:54:46
March 05 2012 11:21 GMT
#19284
On March 05 2012 15:24 skyR wrote:
Impressed by power consumption, not impressed with much of anything else...


[image loading]

how is power consumption impressive? 7850 is just like 20w below 7870. If we don't see any major changes in the non reference board, that's not impressive at all. It doesn't even beat the 6850. My plan of running a passive 7850 is ruined.

7870 power consumption is quite low however (even though it doesn't beat 6870 either...), but the difference between the cards should be greater, at least seen to the performance difference.

Also a notice to people wanting to buy these cards, the reference fans are incredibly noisy...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Hunblebee
Profile Joined March 2012
3 Posts
March 05 2012 18:22 GMT
#19285
Hi ,
I´m sure you can help me with my new PC and thanks a lot for that.

What is your budget?
My Budget is around 1200€

What is your resolution?
1900x1200

What are you using it for?
Mostly Gaming (SC2, Guild Wars) but also a bit of Photoshop and the usual stuff like HD-Videos, Work etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?
About 3+ years but I think I will upgrade the GPU before that.

When do you plan on building it?
In the next two or three weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not right now but I want to have the option.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don´t think so.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I don´t know a good retailer in Germany. I´m thinking about alternate.de or hardwareversand.de but I am not sure if they are good.

I´ve made a pre-build and would appreciate your thoughts

CPU --- Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard --- ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
Ram --- Corsair XMS3 Memory - 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 240-PIN - DDR3
GPU --- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores, 1280MB GDDR5, PCI-Express
PSU --- be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER CM BQT E9-CM-580W 80+Gold
HDD --- Western Digital 1TB SATA3
SSD --- Crucial M4 128 GB SATA3
Case --- CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced
Blu ray: LG BH10LS38 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail

Thanks for your help.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#19286
On March 05 2012 20:21 Shauni wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2012 15:24 skyR wrote:
Impressed by power consumption, not impressed with much of anything else...


[image loading]

how is power consumption impressive? 7850 is just like 20w below 7870. If we don't see any major changes in the non reference board, that's not impressive at all. It doesn't even beat the 6850. My plan of running a passive 7850 is ruined.

7870 power consumption is quite low however (even though it doesn't beat 6870 either...), but the difference between the cards should be greater, at least seen to the performance difference.

Also a notice to people wanting to buy these cards, the reference fans are incredibly noisy...


What are you talking about. The 7850 consumes less than 100w and a 7870 consumes roughly 130w. That's pretty goddam impressive.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#19287
Which, like I said, isn't very different from the 6800 cards in power consumption.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 05 2012 19:06 GMT
#19288
Impressive is subjective. Cutting down power consumption by nearly 100w and having the same or even better performance is pretty dam impressive to me since both cards can easily be passive cooled.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 21:09:18
March 05 2012 21:07 GMT
#19289
hey i just got my new computer from ncix. i had them build it for me. when i try turning it on the computer seems to be runnng fine but i dont get a picture on my monitor. i have tried both the dvi and vga outputs, any ideas?

im confident that the pc is running fine and the monitor (samsung t220) works...
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 05 2012 21:20 GMT
#19290
On March 06 2012 06:07 Moosy wrote:
hey i just got my new computer from ncix. i had them build it for me. when i try turning it on the computer seems to be runnng fine but i dont get a picture on my monitor. i have tried both the dvi and vga outputs, any ideas?

im confident that the pc is running fine and the monitor (samsung t220) works...


Does your pc has an integrated graphics chip? If so, the BIOS may be configured to use that as the default video output. Try connecting the monitor to the motherboard output and see if that works. Fix BIOS settings if needed.
Such flammable little insects!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 05 2012 21:21 GMT
#19291
Graphic cards don't have VGA so your problem is most likely you are trying to connect the monitor to the motherboard ports when you're suppose to be connecting it to the graphics card.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
March 05 2012 21:28 GMT
#19292
Ah, I see so do I open the case to find the right ports for dvi?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 05 2012 21:30 GMT
#19293
No. It should be pretty self explanatory by looking at the back. The motherboard will have VGA and DVI next to each other along with the USB, Ethernet, and other ports in a vertical line.

The graphics card will have two DVI ports and a mDP or HDMI port next to each other in a horizontal line.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
March 05 2012 21:35 GMT
#19294
I was beginning to try the other ports, slow and steadily. I thought i tried it once but i guess not the first of the two graphics dvi port works. Thank you skyr you're a lifesaver
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 21:45:06
March 05 2012 21:44 GMT
#19295
On March 06 2012 03:22 Hunblebee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi ,
I´m sure you can help me with my new PC and thanks a lot for that.

What is your budget?
My Budget is around 1200€

What is your resolution?
1900x1200

What are you using it for?
Mostly Gaming (SC2, Guild Wars) but also a bit of Photoshop and the usual stuff like HD-Videos, Work etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?
About 3+ years but I think I will upgrade the GPU before that.

When do you plan on building it?
In the next two or three weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not right now but I want to have the option.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don´t think so.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I don´t know a good retailer in Germany. I´m thinking about alternate.de or hardwareversand.de but I am not sure if they are good.

I´ve made a pre-build and would appreciate your thoughts

CPU --- Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard --- ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
Ram --- Corsair XMS3 Memory - 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 240-PIN - DDR3
GPU --- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores, 1280MB GDDR5, PCI-Express
PSU --- be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER CM BQT E9-CM-580W 80+Gold
HDD --- Western Digital 1TB SATA3
SSD --- Crucial M4 128 GB SATA3
Case --- CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced
Blu ray: LG BH10LS38 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail

Thanks for your help.


You're missing an aftermarket heatsink (of course you can add one later if that's what you are intending to do) for overclocking but other than that, the rest seems okay. Some XMS3 kits run at 1.65v, ideally you want a kit that runs at 1.5v.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 22:17:34
March 05 2012 22:13 GMT
#19296
hey i got windows 7 going im just having trouble connecting to my linksys. is there a wireless switch or something i should be looking for?

no connections found, my laptop is detecting my router fine.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
March 05 2012 22:13 GMT
#19297
Should i buy some parts in advance for the rise in prices ivy bridge will bring?(lots of suppliers gonna be buying hard drives and RAM). And should i go for a Z68 ASrock extreme3 mobo or wait for a Z77 mobo next month which will prob cost a bit more?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 05 2012 22:20 GMT
#19298
On March 06 2012 07:13 Moosy wrote:
hey i got windows 7 going im just having trouble connecting to my linksys. is there a wireless switch or something i should be looking for?

no connections found, my laptop is detecting my router fine.


The majority of all motherboards do not have wireless. You have to connect through ethernet. If you are looking for wireless, you need to purchase a wireless add-on card or USB wireless adapter.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
March 05 2012 22:23 GMT
#19299
ok thank you, i'll just steal the ethernet cord from my 360 (who plays that anymore anyways).
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
March 05 2012 22:33 GMT
#19300
On March 04 2012 13:40 xsksc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I'm going to be buying parts for a new PC in a couple of weeks and I really don't know all that much about the best components to get, if you guys could suggest a rough build I would really appreciate it. My budget is for everything including case/monitor/power and all that stuff.


What is your budget?
£700 ($1100) ideally, can stretch a bit further if I have to.

What is your resolution?
Buying a monitor with the PC

What are you using it for?
I want a high performance PC for gaming, I want to be able to run games like SC2, BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim.. at the highest settings possible. I will not be using it for anything else other than gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years at least

When do you plan on building it?
3/4 weeks from now

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, definitely not.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's essential.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from the UK, so I'll be buying from Amazon/Scan, unless there are way better deals somewhere else.

Thanks


I'm now going to be buying my parts in a couple of days, so any advice would be really really appreciated, I'm a total noob at this.

Been browsing a bit and this is all I've come up with so far..

Intel core i5 2500 CPU
Radeon HD 6950 2GB GPU
4x 2gb 1333mhz RAM
Dell Ultrasharp 23"or 24" monitor

I am completely clueless about motherboards though, I have no idea what's good and what's not, especially since I'm not overclocking.
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