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JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

March 01 2012 02:48 GMT

#19121

On March 01 2012 10:29 skyR wrote:
Just finishing last few weeks of school.

Yeah, you and your unlimited free time. I wish I... uhm.

Just kidding. Although I am expecting to use D3 as a tool to pick up some extra money on the side once it's out, while I'm keeping my kid in check.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 01 2012 03:35 GMT

#19122

On March 01 2012 09:48 Vix_Vaporub wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

whats is your budget?
around 1600 CDN dollars

what is your resolution?
I have no idea......whatever the standard is I guess :/

what are you using it for?
Playing new/old games on ultra settings if my budget will allow it. GW2 SC2, Diablo 3, Tribes etc.

what is your upgrade cycle?
~3 years
when do you plan on building it?
I want to order the parts this friday (March 2nd 2012)

do you plan on overclocking?
if I need to, but since I'm computer illiterate less maintenance = better.

do you need an operating system?
sure do.

do you plan on adding a 2nd GPU for SLI or crossfire?
probably not? this forum definetely knows better than I do.

where are you buying your parts from?
NCIX because they can build it for me (I'm from Canada)

I was going over some pre-builts and this is what I was thinking of getting; http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc_new/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=E58A78C6-1651-4D8F-A541363CE207C386-3992525 is it balls?

Total: $1037, that leaves you with roughly $550 for a BenQ XL2420T, Dell Ultrasharp, or whatever monitor you want.

Intel Core i5 2500 @ $210
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57963&promoid=1009

Intel H67 @ $92 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1220168704N )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62305

Muskin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1009

XFX Radeon HD6870 @ $170 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62756&promoid=1009

Antec Earthwatts 500D @ $60
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=47698&promoid=1305

Crucial M4 128gb @ $160
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1009

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1009

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $60
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60585&promoid=1078

Assembly @ $50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 x64 @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

DVD Burner @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14040DR8105 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667

Wabbit

United States1028 Posts

March 01 2012 03:54 GMT

#19123

@Vix_Vaporub

If you care about noise, I'd get a dual-fan 6870 instead, this one would be the best choice IMO (the single-fan XFX heatsink is pretty notoriously loud): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58226&vpn=GV-R687OC-1GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1078

Also if you care about playing on Ultra settings on more than just older/less demanding games (especially if you get a 120Hz monitor with the rest of your budget), I'd step it up on the GPU. This is a pretty decent deal, this card usually has quite some overclocking headroom too: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&vpn=R6950 Twin Frozr III 1G/OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1201

Toast_

United States56 Posts

March 01 2012 04:55 GMT

#19124

So, I am looking to upgrade- currently I use a dell xps laptop, works ok for starcraft but hit a bit of lag from time to time.

Budget: somewhat open but would like to be in the 700-1000
Resolution: I need new monitor anyways, but usally have it set at 1920x1080, not big deal to me
Use: Mostly gaming (sc2, skyrim, , small amount of photo editing (adobe lightroom, low tech stuff)
Upgrade cycle: >2+ years ideally
Timing of build: Any time, I dont need one now, so if waiting for the next chipset cycle was smart I could wait a few months
Overclocking: No
OS:doesn't need to be in budget
Second GPU: doubtful
Locations: Online mostly, Fry's is around but a ways off.

I also would be open to prebuilt- I dont plan on doing any streaming, video editing or anything fancy.... and im lazy

Thanks!

Medrea

10003 Posts

March 01 2012 05:05 GMT

#19125

Well we arent gonna suggest a prebuilt if you can build one, that would be silly.

We are in the middle of transitioning into new technology, then again when aren't we. How badly do you need a new computer?

monkeii

United States56 Posts

March 01 2012 09:54 GMT

#19126

Hihi!
I was hoping all the tech-savy nerd-ballers in here could help me out in building a new comp.

What is your budget?
1000$-1400$

What is your resolution?
1280x1024

What are you using it for?
Most likely gaming. I do want to record and stream too.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

When do you plan on building it?
In about a week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Sure. :D

Do you need an Operating System?
Yeah. :\

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Frys/Microcenter/Online(US)

Wabbit

United States1028 Posts

March 01 2012 16:59 GMT

#19127

You should strongly consider using part of your budget to upgrade your monitor. Setting aside $300-400 for that and $900-1000 max for the desktop is a good idea. What do you think? Read TL's monitor thread for information: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308280

I'll probably put a build together for you for $1000 or less (sans monitor), a build that assumes a 1920x1080 or 1900x1200 monitor upgrade (otherwise a mid-range GPU like a ~$110 HD 6770 would serve 1280x1024 perfectly) . It would be best for you to decide beforehand if you want something like 120Hz monitor, though.

EDIT: Here's a build for $1088 before some mail-in-rebates. If you live close to MicroCenter, go there and get a 2500K + P67/Z68 mobo combo to get their discounts.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5g0W
Look at the top right, click "price breakdown by merchant" - you can have a single order from newegg with pretty much the best prices all around. If you're OK with multiple orders, you could save $20 by getting a Crucial M4 from B&H instead of the Samsung 830 from Newegg: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/768798-REG/Crucial_Technology_CT064M4SSD2_64GB_m4_SSD_2_5_.html

Since you said that you're planning to "record" your gaming (which I assume means using FRAPS) and not just live-stream (such as by using XSplit), then I put in a SSD + 7200 RPM HDD for extra programs/recording/space.

If you're not upgrading the monitor, this GTX 460 graphics card would be more appropriate for that resolution: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412&Tpk=N82E16814125412

Anomek

Poland152 Posts

March 01 2012 22:49 GMT

#19128

Hi,

i guess if you guys can help me with build a PC. I've made a pre-build but i'm afraid i may overprice too much.

What is your budget?
It's around 1000-1200$ but i'm quite flexible in this matter. Note that prices in Poland can be different (but you probably know that already

) and i'm looking rather for best performance/price ratio (with emphasis on performance)

What is your resolution?
1980x1080

What are you using it for?
Mosty gaming but i also want to be able to run many applications in background (like application server, database, etc.) and still have good performance. No photoshop, no streaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?
around 2 years, but i'm willing to buy something cheaper to replace it in few months (and fit with budget today)

When do you plan on building it?
In 1-2 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No plans for overclocking.

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Until it's cost-effecting and in my budget - no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
As I mentioned I'm from Poland and I'm going to buy parts in local stores.

So my pre build is
Intel Core i7 2600 3,40 GHz BOX (i've read here that i must be rich to buy it, it costs ~400$ here, i would buy something cheaper if it had similar performance, i don't want to save on this one)

Gigabyte GA-P67A-D3-B3
G.SKILL DDR3 2x 2GB 1866MHz CL9 Ripjaws
I have no idea how cost-effective these two are

I also want 2x HDD in RAID 0

Any help will be appreciated.
Cheers

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 01 2012 22:56 GMT

#19129

1866MHz memory is a waste of money, you can maybe 1 FPS for like $40 more than 1333MHz / 1600MHz memory, see here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html

If you are not overclocking than you'd want a H67 motherboard instead. P67 boards are for overclocking.

Just get an SSD if you need speed.

And you're missing a case, power supply, graphics card, and everything else..

Anomek

Poland152 Posts

March 01 2012 23:07 GMT

#19130

I have no idea what graphic card i should pick, I don't even know where and how to start

Case, power supply are like no problem i think. I'm not overclocking so i don't need "pimped" case, power supply will be picked last when i know how much power i need. Everything else i will just get from my old pc for now (not like there is many else).

I picked P67 motherboard because H67 doesn't support 1600MHz memory (at least models I saw, maybe i'm wrong).
Thanks for links, they will help me with picking memory immensely.

I will look into SSD but they are so expensive and small. And I heard that RAID 0 is good speed-up when starting windows/programs is concerned.
EDIT: Maybe SSD is not that bad idea, thanks for pointing that out!

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

March 01 2012 23:27 GMT

#19131

On March 02 2012 08:07 Anomek wrote:
I will look into SSD but they are so expensive and small. And I heard that RAID 0 is good speed-up when starting windows/programs is concerned.
EDIT: Maybe SSD is not that bad idea, thanks for pointing that out!

It depends on the program; RAID 0 can help, but it doesn't improve access times. Loading programs and OSes often requires reading a whole lot of small files scattered around.

For most practical use, an SSD would be a much larger improvement than hard disks in RAID 0. RAID 0 is most useful for dumping raw or lightly-compressed video data, or something like that, that involves a huge time-intensive sequential data transfer.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 01 2012 23:36 GMT

#19132

For graphics card, you can take a look at Radeon HD6870, Radeon HD6950, GTX 560 Ti, or GTX 560 Ti 448. If you want to spend much more, you can go for a 7950 or 7970. You can see various cards compared in articles such as these: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/12 Note that GTX 560 Ti and 6950 are comparable in performance, 6870 falls between a 5850 and 5870 in performance, and GTX 560 Ti 448 is slightly worse than a GTX 570.

The gains in getting better memory is very small. Getting a P67 board solely for better memory would be stupid as a bigger performance gain can be had by getting a K suffix processor (2600k) and overclocking it.

Vix_Vaporub

6 Posts

March 02 2012 05:23 GMT

#19133

On March 01 2012 12:35 skyR wrote:

Show nested quote +

So I mostly followed this post, with just a few variations, I was wondering if these upgrades will somehow ruin the build (thank you very much BTW). I upgraded to a 1TB hard drive http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=65701

I decided to go for the MSI Radeon HD 6950 Twin Frozr III OC 850MHZ 1GB GDDR5 2xDVI 2xMini DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E Video Card on reccomendation by Wabbit (although I've been told not to trust Wabbit's). http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64182&promoid=1201.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 02 2012 05:30 GMT

#19134

On March 02 2012 14:23 Vix_Vaporub wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On March 01 2012 12:35 skyR wrote:

Show nested quote +

Getting a 1TB HDD is fine but you can get it for $100: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1009

The 6950 Twin Frozr III is not in stock. 6950s are very hard to find as AMD is clearing inventory for the newer cards that should hopefully appear in the next week or two. If you are looking for a better card than a 6870 than you can get a GTX 560 Ti variant, you can pricematch a GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II to $225 using http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594 ($195 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=61077

FiWiFaKi

Canada9858 Posts

March 02 2012 06:34 GMT

#19135

This question must have been asked before, but I'm overclocking my 2500k and I'm looking for a pretty light overclock. Anyways I'm looking as to what would some good settings for it be!

I put the voltage at 1.27 and my multiplier to 40x. And my temperatures are at 65-67C under-stress. I have an ASUS Z68 mobo for $130~. I'm just wondering where I should go from here. Not looking for anything extreme. Thank you.

And I'm using the 212+ fan for reference.

Medrea

10003 Posts

March 02 2012 06:44 GMT

#19136

You can run a stress test or have faith that it works. Thats about it.

I set my multiplier to 40, I didnt change the voltage any but I think its set to auto so Im covered.

65C is pretty close to what I get. Closer to 62C when I stream and play SC2 at the same time, but only if its warm in my room as well.

I have the same processor and same fan. Pretty good huh? To some processors, particularly awhile ago, this would have been an EXTREME OC but not for sandy bridge.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 02 2012 06:45 GMT

#19137

Just set vcore to auto and multiplier to somewhere in the 42-44 range. You can play around with offset voltage if you want to achieve a higher clock or lower voltage.

FiWiFaKi

Canada9858 Posts

March 02 2012 06:58 GMT

#19138

On March 02 2012 15:45 skyR wrote:
Just set vcore to auto and multiplier to somewhere in the 42-44 range. You can play around with offset voltage if you want to achieve a higher clock or lower voltage.

Hmm I was watching an overclocking video and it said to turn off a lot of different settings? Should I enable those? And alright, I'll try auto, but what kind of temperatures should I be limits myself to for my uses?

I'm also curious as to what programs I want to be using to see my temps etc. Right now I'm using Speedfan.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

March 02 2012 07:04 GMT

#19139

People recommend disabling power saving features such as C1E and EIST but you can leave those on if you wish as well.

You should aim for something under 60c during load ideally, under 70c works as well.

Speedfan sucks. Use HW Monitor.

FiWiFaKi

Canada9858 Posts

March 02 2012 07:11 GMT

#19140

Okay just downloaded it. So right now I'm not doing anything but installing Battlefield 3. And I'm wondering, which temperatures should I be worried about here when I'm overclocking?

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And thank you thank you so much ^__^

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