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Thermalright HR-02 Macho completely crushes Hyper 212 variants and isn't that much more expensive when available. It's just a lot larger and a lot quieter.
Europeans don't have HAF 912 at similar pricing to Antec 300, partially because they don't get the base HAF 912 model but upgraded SKUs with more fans and other things. But anyway, I would look at alternatives because the point still stands about the 300 being outdated. BitFenix Shinobi and some of the other lineup should be better.
Rosewill is a North American brand that you don't see elsewhere. Hive is decently good and a little better than the Pure Power L8, but you won't be able to find it. In typical European pricing, Pure Power L8 is a reasonable choice if you want a modular unit that's not very loud. Pure Power L8 is by HEC, but it's relatively good for them. See the 730W model's results here (and note that the highest-end model in a design will exhibit the worst performance usually, and that you won't get close to 530W draw anyway):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/beQuiet/PurePower_L8_730W/1.html
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I should really pay more attention to where people come from. XD
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Thanks for the feedback.
What is the problem of the Antec 300 being outdated?
Are there any important features the Antec 300 is missing out and the newer Cases like BitFenix Shinobi are not?
You are right, the Rosewill brand is not avaible for me.
What do you think about:
Corsair Enthusiast Series Modular TX550M 550W
Or is there a better modular PSU you can think of?
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As for cases, it's mostly just functional things relating to convenience of installing and maintenance. Original Antec 300 is missing a whole lot of modern conveniences that don't particularly cost any (or much) more, but some things have been upgraded over time (without announcement) since then I think.
TX550M is better, but isn't that typically a lot more expensive and overpriced? Also, it has far fewer modular connections; most are hardwired. For use in a mid-tower chassis I don't really see the point of a modular power supply, and there aren't really that many that are cheap. Most of the cheap ones like OCZ ModXStream, OCZ Fatal1ty, Silverstone Strider Plus 500W (not the much superior 750W, 850W, and so on, which are completely different), etc. are not bad but not good either. I don't think you'll find a much better alternative to Pure Power L8, at least without spending more money. There are lots of better options if you spend significantly more money.
I don't recall Thermaltake ToughPower XT (575W) being that cheap in Germany, though that would be a big improvement, better than TX-M, but maybe a bit loud.
Are you buying from mindfactory, hardwareversand, or where else?
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The TX550M is about the same as the Pute Power L8. Roughly around 70€.
Thermaltake ToughPower 575W is around 80€ @Amazon.
Have you made any experiences with the Thermaltake ToughPower PSU yourself or do you know how loud this one gets in comparison to the GPU for example.
Mindfactory is atm much cheaper for most parts than hardwareversand but i am not stuck with Mindfactory.
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thanks for the links.
The Antec TruePower New 550W is atm even cheaper on mindfactory (by like 0.78€ :D) thx.
Regarding the Case the Antec One, which is coming out in the next week, seems to be interesting since it is also in my pricerange.
since you did not comment on the rest i am assuming it is ok?
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Since at CeBit Amd will most likely release the new HD 7850/7870 i am still not too sure about what to buy GPU wise but HD 6870 or HD 6950 both seem to be a reasonable choice.
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im trying to get some cheap ssds for storage(it's not easy!). Is 270$ (1800SEK) ok for a samsung 830 256 gb?
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almost $1 per gb is really cheap, especially for a Samsung 830.
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Hey guys, I got my build up and running over the weekend and it was a breeze, so thanks again! My girlfriend is now in the market for a desktop now that I've upgraded mine, so I figured I'd come back to TL for another recommendation with her answers.
What is your budget?
No more than $1000, and as always the lower the better in order to suit her needs. Something below $700 would be awesome.
What is your resolution?
She'll need a monitor as well, and will settle for 1680x1050.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming but also some basic schoolwork. She'll use it for WoW, Diablo 3, possibly Guild Wars II, but I know with that kind of budget it'll all easily be covered.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Ideally she'd like it to last for ~3.5 years, but she's ready to replace individual components if they get outdated before then.
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
She's also in Canada, so either Newegg or NCIX most likely.
Also, this is going to be her first ever desktop since she's only ever owned laptops, which is why she wants to get something more serious for gaming. I don't think that'll have any bearing on extra components that she'll need (besides peripherals which we'll get separately), and she has an ethernet cable available, but I just wanted to throw that out there in case it has some effect that I haven't anticipated.
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Computer use(for a friend): A lot of internet browsing(she doesn't want the Not Responding error ever to occur)
Photoshop
Photo and music storage
Video playing
Budget:$350-$600
Monitor and Pheripherals: YES
OS: YES
Other requirements: I want to make sure she has a good mobo with USB 3.0 and LAN as her upgrade cycle is likely around 4 years
Tigerdirect or Newegg are preferred.
Edit: Her monitor looks pretty old, so its probably 1280 by 1024
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What do you mean by photoshop and video playing? can you be more specific?
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Hey TL you guys have helped me out before and I am back again to get some more.
Building a computer for my cousin
Budget: 500$-600$
OS: No
Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Already have a computer case. I think it is about a mid sized case.
Its going to be mainly for Diablo 3, SC2, and LoL. Trying to be able to play on high settings but medium will also be fine.
If you need any more information feel free to ask.
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So a couple of days ago I asked about help with a new computer.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:What is your budget? Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS. What are you using it for? Gaming gaming gaming What is your upgrade cycle? I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Early march Do you plan on overclocking? If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not in the near future atleast Where are you buying your parts from? Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-thisIs there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away? What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?
After reading the responses and seeing the recomendations I have modified the list of what I plan to get to this
+ Show Spoiler +Antec Kühler H2O 620
Antec P280 Midtower - Black
Corsair 4GB Intel/AMD PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 1x240 DIMM
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 - LGA1155
Intel® Core i5 2500K, 3.3GHz, 6MB
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 Sve (64-bit OEM )
Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC128 128GB Desktop
Gigabyte Radeon HD7970 OC 3GB DDR5 PCIe
Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W Bronze
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 5400rpm 64MB 3.5" SATA-3
22-24inch BenQ XL2420T 24" WIDE TFT LED 120HZ Black
And I have a few last questions before I go ahead and buy it (if the list looks good)
Are there any special tools I might be needing to build the computer? or will a normally equipped toolbox with most common things in it be enough?
I saw that this HDD was a 5400rpm instead of some that are 7200 does that make a noticable difference?
Is it possible to use my old screen aswell as the new despite them beeing different in resolution ans size?
And finally a thanks to all the people in this thread that takes some time to help a new like me with this
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On February 27 2012 06:57 Teence wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys, I got my build up and running over the weekend and it was a breeze, so thanks again! My girlfriend is now in the market for a desktop now that I've upgraded mine, so I figured I'd come back to TL for another recommendation with her answers.
What is your budget?
No more than $1000, and as always the lower the better in order to suit her needs. Something below $700 would be awesome.
What is your resolution?
She'll need a monitor as well, and will settle for 1680x1050.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming but also some basic schoolwork. She'll use it for WoW, Diablo 3, possibly Guild Wars II, but I know with that kind of budget it'll all easily be covered.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Ideally she'd like it to last for ~3.5 years, but she's ready to replace individual components if they get outdated before then.
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
She's also in Canada, so either Newegg or NCIX most likely.
Also, this is going to be her first ever desktop since she's only ever owned laptops, which is why she wants to get something more serious for gaming. I don't think that'll have any bearing on extra components that she'll need (besides peripherals which we'll get separately), and she has an ethernet cable available, but I just wanted to throw that out there in case it has some effect that I haven't anticipated.
Total: $743 before mail in rebates, shipping, and other fees.
You can get rid of the SSD and change H67 to H61 as well if you want to reduce the total. But a SSD is very nice for WoW.
I suggest just getting her a 1080p monitor, some cheap 1080p TN monitor is about $120 while a Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM can be had for under $200 when it's on sale (which is pretty often).
A Radeon HD6770 would most likely do as well if you want to drop your total further.
Intel Core i3 2100 @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1078
Intel H67 @ $93 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1220168704N
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62305
Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150 ($130 after mail in rebate)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1078
Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $37 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230BD5449 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49600
Corsair CX400 @ $45
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357
Crucial M4 128gb @ $170 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234805/CRUCIAL_TECHNOLOGY/CT128M4SSD2/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445
Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1078
Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $31 (pricematch with http://www.computers-canada.ca/store/products/1027013045/BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-RP /BitFenix/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256
DVD Burner @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62052
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On February 27 2012 08:46 Rachnar wrote:
What do you mean by photoshop and video playing? can you be more specific?
Casual Photoshop and DVD movies/Youtube
EDIT: You know, non-CPU or GPU taxing activities.
BTW the CPU still needs to be fast as she usually copy and pastes large pictures from the internet and doesnt want it to lag
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On February 27 2012 09:22 Dojun wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So a couple of days ago I asked about help with a new computer. + Show Spoiler +On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:What is your budget? Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS. What are you using it for? Gaming gaming gaming What is your upgrade cycle? I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Early march Do you plan on overclocking? If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not in the near future atleast Where are you buying your parts from? Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-thisIs there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away? What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI? After reading the responses and seeing the recomendations I have modified the list of what I plan to get to this + Show Spoiler +Antec Kühler H2O 620
Antec P280 Midtower - Black
Corsair 4GB Intel/AMD PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 1x240 DIMM
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 - LGA1155
Intel® Core i5 2500K, 3.3GHz, 6MB
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 Sve (64-bit OEM )
Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC128 128GB Desktop
Gigabyte Radeon HD7970 OC 3GB DDR5 PCIe
Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W Bronze
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 5400rpm 64MB 3.5" SATA-3
22-24inch BenQ XL2420T 24" WIDE TFT LED 120HZ Black And I have a few last questions before I go ahead and buy it (if the list looks good) Are there any special tools I might be needing to build the computer? or will a normally equipped toolbox with most common things in it be enough? I saw that this HDD was a 5400rpm instead of some that are 7200 does that make a noticable difference? Is it possible to use my old screen aswell as the new despite them beeing different in resolution ans size? And finally a thanks to all the people in this thread that takes some time to help a new like me with this
All you need is a phillip head screwdriver.
You are getting an SSD so the HDD is just going to be used for storage and secondary software. Everything that requires speed should be on the SSD of course. If you don't think 128gb is big enough for all your software and games than get a larger SSD or get a 7200 RPM HDD.
You can use your old monitor alongside the new monitor without an issue.
4gb of RAM in a configuration like this... really? Just get 2x4gb. The rest looks good I guess.
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On February 27 2012 08:15 STYDawn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Computer use(for a friend): A lot of internet browsing(she doesn't want the Not Responding error ever to occur)
Photoshop
Photo and music storage
Video playing
Budget:$350-$600
Monitor and Pheripherals: YES
OS: YES
Other requirements: I want to make sure she has a good mobo with USB 3.0 and LAN as her upgrade cycle is likely around 4 years
Tigerdirect or Newegg are preferred.
Edit: Her monitor looks pretty old, so its probably 1280 by 1024
So the budget includes keyboard, mouse, speakers, and monitor?
I'm not sure what you mean by good LAN... basically every motherboard has the same Realtek chipset. If you want something specific than you should be more specific.
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