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On February 28 2012 08:00 Blisse wrote:
Could you check if the fan mount for that fan also supports 120mm fans? Or link the case. Or both. 140mm fans are pretty bad in terms of noise if you're going for really quiet. Also, are you sure it's that fan that's making the most noise, as it could also be the heatsink, or the graphics card, or anything else in your case as well. We don't want you to spend $20 to replace a fan when it doesn't do anything to help.
its definitely the fan cause i unplugged the fan once just to test and it was so quiter than before. CM 690II is the case i think it only supports 140mm thx already for all replys
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On February 28 2012 08:05 brainox wrote:its definitely the fan cause i unplugged the fan once just to test and it was so quiter than before. CM 690II is the case i think it only supports 140mm thx already for all replys
This goes to show everyone how BS some manufacturers' spec sheets are - considering there is no standard for fans. "19dBA" my ass, TrollerMaster.
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You can get a bracket to downsize to a 120mm fan, if you wanted. And 120mm definitely offers better options, including the slightly pricey but very convenient Antec Tricool, which has the huge advantage of having a built in 3way controller. Really though, buying a cheap fan controller panel is a good idea if you want to be able to better balance cooling and noise.
Bear in mind, most fans at max RPM are going to make some audible noise, unless you start getting into expensive turf. And your GPU will quickly end up being louder while gaming. Noise is a really complicated subject, and there's limits on how far it's worth going for the average gamer.
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@JingleHell
That's kind of why I tend to suggest the Bitfenix Spectre 140, it's cheap and only spins at 1000RPM and is really quiet, makes no audible bearing noise from the reviews I've seen & heard. Fluid dynamic bearing is always a plus also..
Welcome back by the way, wher have you been?
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Can someone link to a thorough, simple overclocking guide, preferably up to date and contains info about overclocking a i5 2500k? Thanks.
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On February 28 2012 08:17 Wabbit wrote:
@JingleHell
That's kind of why I tend to suggest the Bitfenix Spectre 140, it's cheap and only spins at 1000RPM and is really quiet, makes no audible bearing noise from the reviews I've seen & heard. Fluid dynamic bearing is always a plus also..
Welcome back by the way, wher have you been?
Here and there.
And yeah, I'm more a fan of a moderately fast Scythe with a controller, so I can kick it up if the A/C dies or I want a bench run at a totally pointless OC for E-Peen purposes. But then, for me, noise is mostly an afterthought. I like it to STFU when I'm browsing and don't care when I'm gaming.
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On February 28 2012 08:18 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Can someone link to a thorough, simple overclocking guide, preferably up to date and contains info about overclocking a i5 2500k? Thanks.
Every manufacturer uses a different BIOS. Simple would be press overclock button or increase multiplier, save and exit. You don't need a guide for this lol. Guides are much more advanced, talking about load line, PLL, VCCSA, VCCIO, and so on...
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Well, i want to be overclocking my i5 2500k to about 5.0 ghz, so i wanted to be thorough and make sure not to fuck anything up.
My biggest problem is not knowing how the fuck voltage effects the cpu and how the voltage differs as you increase the clock..
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5.0 GHz is not at all possible with a lot of samples, at least with reasonable voltages and cooling.
Just know that higher voltages and higher temperatures are both bad for the processor, and both higher voltages and higher clock speeds (particularly higher voltages) contribute to higher power draw and thus temperatures. The most important is the core voltage, but for higher overclocks you will probably have to run a lot of other things above what they're nominally specified for, too.
Higher voltages in general mean the processor can screw up by a greater amount (in some sense; keep in mind these are digital circuits, though that may not help you much if you don't have any intuition about transistors and solid-state electronics) and still work properly, hence why higher voltages let you run higher clock speeds.
So there generally comes a certain point where you would need to increase VCore by like 0.1V to get 100-200 MHz more, which is probably not worth it, all things considered. That point is below 5.0 GHz on most i5-2500k.
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I've got the Noctua NH-D14, havent tried anything yet but that should be able to get to some pretty high clocks.. right?
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Good cooling doesn't change the fact that your processor may not hit 5GHz without an absurd amount of voltage.
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What on earth does an every day gamer need a 5ghz overclock for? What would that accomplish that 4.5 can't? Realistically of course.
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On February 28 2012 09:07 skyR wrote:
Good cooling doesn't change the fact that your processor may not hit 5GHz without an absurd amount of voltage.
I know that 
Just changed my clock to 4.2. 5C temp increase while streaming 1080p sc2 on max settings.
On February 28 2012 09:15 Alryk wrote:
What on earth does an every day gamer need a 5ghz overclock for? What would that accomplish that 4.5 can't? Realistically of course.
Not as many frame drops below 60 fps. I may not even need 5ghz. I will run what i can without hurting the life span of my cpu drastically.
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On February 28 2012 02:33 Moosy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 08:32 skyR wrote:On February 17 2012 07:42 Teence wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
Somewhere in the area of $600 would be ideal, but I wouldn't be opposed to going a little higher if there is an attainable performance gain.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, but also some basic schoolwork stuff. Starcraft II, Diablo III, and WoW would be the ideal focus, although Guild Wars 2 is looking attractive. Not thinking of streaming for the time being.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Around 3 years would be perfect.
When do you plan on building it?
Hopefully I'll order the parts within the next week or so.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Nah.
Do you need an Operating System?
The only promotion I can get through school is Windows 7 Professional for $99, so if the Home version is more highly recommended, I'd say yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nah.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm in Canada, so probably Newegg or NCIX. Please note that I only recently upgraded my PSU for my current rig (about 7 months ago) so I'm guessing I wouldn't need to order one unless it's highly recommended. Currently using a CoolerMaster GX-650W, which I know is way overkill for wattage, but I got it for very cheap so I wasn't about to complain.
I've been browsing the thread for awhile trying to come up with a suitable build for myself, but I figured I'd ask the pros just in case. Thanks guys! $492, $591 with your $99 Windows 7 Intel Core i3 2100 @ $120 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1315Powercolor Radeon HD6850 @ $138 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13630BD3862 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&promoid=1315ASUS P8H61M LE/CSM @ $64 (pricematch with http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06ML63/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59829Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $39 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1315Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $35 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&&promoid=1315DVD Burner @ $16 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR7068 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984 Hey I ordered this a week ago because it suits my needs and was just wondering if the Samsung T220 monitor would be ok with this build. I've had it since my fps console days and just wanted to make sure, thanks.
Ncix just called me and said this didn't have a power supply so I paid $44 for a 500w one their tech guy said was good, hope I didn't screw up.
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If you bought a Corsair CX500v2 (which is $45, not $44) than it's good. If it's a Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus, it's not good. I'm not aware of any other 500w unit being at ~$44.
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Return performance goes down as you overclock so watch out.
Just because you took a 3.3 ghz processor to 5.0hz doesnt mean you have a processor thats 50 percent better at everything you do.
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What is "return performance"
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A term I made up completely on my own just now.
I didnt want to say performance because I didnt want to imply that performance goes down as you overclock.
I should have just said that performance does increase with clock speed in a direct proportion.
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On February 28 2012 10:00 Medrea wrote:
A term I made up completely on my own just now.
I didnt want to say performance because I didnt want to imply that performance goes down as you overclock.
I should have just said that performance does increase with clock speed in a direct proportion.
Do you mean "does not increase" in a direct proportion? I think you were trying to say there are diminishing returns?
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