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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 00:59:42
February 27 2012 00:59 GMT
#18981
No she has all the pheripherals and an OS

good LAN as in 10/100/1000 and not just 10/100

Btw some mobos only have ethernet
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 01:09:20
February 27 2012 01:00 GMT
#18982
On February 27 2012 08:47 Groko wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey TL you guys have helped me out before and I am back again to get some more.

Building a computer for my cousin

Budget: 500$-600$

OS: No

Resolution: 1280 x 1024

Already have a computer case. I think it is about a mid sized case.

Its going to be mainly for Diablo 3, SC2, and LoL. Trying to be able to play on high settings but medium will also be fine.

If you need any more information feel free to ask.


Total: $451

Buy a new monitor. If you intend to stay at 1280x1024 forever than you can change the 6770 to a 6670 or a 6570.

Intel Core i3 2100 @ $115
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1078

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1078

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $76
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1078

Corsair CX400 @ $45
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Wintec 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161468

ASUS Radeon HD6770 @ $110 ($90 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121474

Asrock H61M-VS @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 27 2012 01:15 GMT
#18983
On February 27 2012 09:59 STYDawn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
No she has all the pheripherals and an OS

good LAN as in 10/100/1000 and not just 10/100

Btw some mobos only have ethernet


What... when you are talking about LAN and motherboard, that generally refers to ethernet. So you want wifi?

$409

Intel Core i3 2100 & DVD Burner @ $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.822291

Seasonic SS-300ET @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

Intel H61 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121503

Xigmatek Asgard II @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004

Hitachi 500GB @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145531

Wintec 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161468
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
February 27 2012 01:20 GMT
#18984
Hey i'm wondering if I should switch my AMD Phenom 9500 and use a Intel Pentium E6600?
http://www.twitch.tv/area51_anda | @ahandyhoang | areaAnDa.751 | Terran | NaDa ♥
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 01:31:22
February 27 2012 01:30 GMT
#18985
Not worth the effort really...

edit: oh wait.. it's the Pentium E6600 so yes it would be an improvement over the Phenom 9500.
Dojun
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6 Posts
February 27 2012 02:32 GMT
#18986
On February 27 2012 09:42 skyR wrote:
You are getting an SSD so the HDD is just going to be used for storage and secondary software. Everything that requires speed should be on the SSD of course. If you don't think 128gb is big enough for all your software and games than get a larger SSD or get a 7200 RPM HDD.

You can use your old monitor alongside the new monitor without an issue.

4gb of RAM in a configuration like this... really? Just get 2x4gb. The rest looks good I guess.


What would be a recomended 7200RPM HDD?
When I read the info on the graphics card it says that it uses 550w is that just a number they say to keep their back clear or would I be better off with buying a bit stronger PSU? Gigabyte 7970HD
The RAM was just a miss by me not writing out 2x4

Que pasa?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:56:22
February 27 2012 02:56 GMT
#18987
Any 7200 RPM HDD will do. Western Digital Caviar Blue, Caviar Black, Samsung Spinpoint F3, Seagate Barracuda, and so on. Note that Caviar Black isn't that much better so unless you are looking for a 5 year warranty, I wouldn't look at getting a Caviar Black unless the price difference between it and the rest is negligible.

The manufacturer recommendation has to cover the various possible configurations and quality of power supplies. A Thermaltake Toughpower XT is good and will be more than sufficient for an overclocked 2500k and overclocked 7970, such a configuration would draw less than 400w under load.
Tokeee
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 08:08:54
February 27 2012 07:42 GMT
#18988
Hey there!
My old pc burned out and i need a new one, i have never built a computer before and i am not to tech-savvy, so if there is any further info you need, and please be specific and clear :D

What is your budget?
I am willing to spend about 2000 usd, but i have heard that i should be able to get every thing i need for about 1000 and would like not to overkill but still with out cutting any corners (too many).

What is your resolution?
I will be buying two new monitors, 16: 9. it will be 19" or 21". If there are any ideas for monitors out there i would like to hear them

What are you using it for?
I will be using it mainly for gaming. I want to be able to stream at 1080p, with web cam and mic. I want to be able to stream 4v4 with graphics on ultra (extreme? what ever), with some music and so on in the back ground.
I am also a photographer and will be doing some 3d and programming (photoshop, maya, zbrush, c++, python). And I will be storing a lot of data of different sort.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I have a relatively slow upgrade cycle and would have this pc 2+ years.

When do you plan on building it?
I plan on ordering and building it in April

Do you plan on overclocking?
I will not be overclocking

Do you need an Operating System?
I need windows 7 home

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't know if it would be worth it, but if you think it would be a good idea? i will be going with what ever has the best cost/ benefit ratio

Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Denmark, and i haven't found where i will buy it yet

Other
There must be room in the cabinet for my old hard drive.

A quick question: it tends to get dusty in my room, and i fear that dust might have had a part in killing my old pc, is this possible or paranoia?

Thank you so much for you help!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 27 2012 08:25 GMT
#18989
Dust is an insulator so if you don't know that you need to maintain your computer or too lazy to even do the most lazy cleaning of your computer than yes dust most likely killed your computer.
NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
February 27 2012 09:00 GMT
#18990
Just as a recent observation, I would be careful using Zalman PSUs. Their reliability has been suspect of late. We use them at work and I've had to replace a LOT of them. Vastly more than Cooler Master.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
February 27 2012 12:38 GMT
#18991
Which zalman models? Probably the once based on FSP epsilon. FSP really dropped the ball with that platform.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
February 27 2012 15:59 GMT
#18992
On February 27 2012 09:22 Dojun wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So a couple of days ago I asked about help with a new computer.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS.

What are you using it for?
Gaming gaming gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Early march

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not in the near future atleast

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there

I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-this
Is there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away?
What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?


After reading the responses and seeing the recomendations I have modified the list of what I plan to get to this

+ Show Spoiler +
Antec Kühler H2O 620
Antec P280 Midtower - Black
Corsair 4GB Intel/AMD PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 1x240 DIMM
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 - LGA1155
Intel® Core i5 2500K, 3.3GHz, 6MB
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 Sve (64-bit OEM )
Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC128 128GB Desktop
Gigabyte Radeon HD7970 OC 3GB DDR5 PCIe
Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W Bronze
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 5400rpm 64MB 3.5" SATA-3
22-24inch BenQ XL2420T 24" WIDE TFT LED 120HZ Black


And I have a few last questions before I go ahead and buy it (if the list looks good)
Are there any special tools I might be needing to build the computer? or will a normally equipped toolbox with most common things in it be enough?
I saw that this HDD was a 5400rpm instead of some that are 7200 does that make a noticable difference?
Is it possible to use my old screen aswell as the new despite them beeing different in resolution ans size?
And finally a thanks to all the people in this thread that takes some time to help a new like me with this



You've got your build in an antec P280, which makes me think you care about noise (though it's a nice case to get anyway), but then you have an Antec 620 as your CPU cooling, which is definitely nowhere near low noise at higher fan speeds. You can get air cooling that is quieter and cools similarly or better for a lower price. Any Noctua or Thermalright coolers available to you from your preferred online vendors? Especially the Noctua U12P SE2 or Thermalright True Spirit 140 or HR-02 Macho, these would be good choices for low-ish price and low noise + capability to overclock pretty high.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
February 27 2012 17:33 GMT
#18993
On February 17 2012 08:32 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 07:42 Teence wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

Somewhere in the area of $600 would be ideal, but I wouldn't be opposed to going a little higher if there is an attainable performance gain.

What is your resolution?

1680x1050

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming, but also some basic schoolwork stuff. Starcraft II, Diablo III, and WoW would be the ideal focus, although Guild Wars 2 is looking attractive. Not thinking of streaming for the time being.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Around 3 years would be perfect.

When do you plan on building it?

Hopefully I'll order the parts within the next week or so.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nah.

Do you need an Operating System?

The only promotion I can get through school is Windows 7 Professional for $99, so if the Home version is more highly recommended, I'd say yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nah.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'm in Canada, so probably Newegg or NCIX. Please note that I only recently upgraded my PSU for my current rig (about 7 months ago) so I'm guessing I wouldn't need to order one unless it's highly recommended. Currently using a CoolerMaster GX-650W, which I know is way overkill for wattage, but I got it for very cheap so I wasn't about to complain.

I've been browsing the thread for awhile trying to come up with a suitable build for myself, but I figured I'd ask the pros just in case. Thanks guys!


$492, $591 with your $99 Windows 7

Intel Core i3 2100 @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1315

Powercolor Radeon HD6850 @ $138 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13630BD3862 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&promoid=1315

ASUS P8H61M LE/CSM @ $64 (pricematch with http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06ML63/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59829

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $39 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1315

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $35
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&&promoid=1315

DVD Burner @ $16 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR7068 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984


Hey I ordered this a week ago because it suits my needs and was just wondering if the Samsung T220 monitor would be ok with this build. I've had it since my fps console days and just wanted to make sure, thanks.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 27 2012 17:34 GMT
#18994
Any monitor is fine.
brainox
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:34:26
February 27 2012 22:33 GMT
#18995
Hey I just want to buy another case fan. they seem to be all cheap so is there a recommendation for those things or are they all similar?
edit: 140mm case fan
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 27 2012 22:36 GMT
#18996
On February 28 2012 07:33 brainox wrote:
Hey I just want to buy another case fan. they seem to be all cheap so is there a recommendation for those things or are they all similar?
edit: 140mm case fan


No, it's a huge, in depth thing. Do you care about noise, do you use a fan controller, do you want to use a 3pin connector or a molex?
brainox
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany292 Posts
February 27 2012 22:44 GMT
#18997
On February 28 2012 07:36 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:33 brainox wrote:
Hey I just want to buy another case fan. they seem to be all cheap so is there a recommendation for those things or are they all similar?
edit: 140mm case fan


No, it's a huge, in depth thing. Do you care about noise, do you use a fan controller, do you want to use a 3pin connector or a molex?

I have that build in front fan in my cooler master case. but its pretty loud imo and i cant control the speed. so i need a 140mm case fan to be either silent at full speed or those pwm fans? I dont use fan controller but either 3 pin connector or those pwm fans would be better i think.?!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 27 2012 22:49 GMT
#18998
Well, if your rig is already loud, just go with whatever tickles your fancy unless you want to start heading for a quieter rig. If you do, check out stuff from silentpcreview.com, they do in-depth noise related reviews and stuff.

Generally, when in doubt, buy the same thing you already have if you don't want to do heavy research. Scythe makes good fans, apevia makes bad everything. Where did you want to buy from?
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:52:00
February 27 2012 22:49 GMT
#18999
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/140mm-fan-roundup_12.html#sect0

The Thermalright TY-140 (warning: 120mm mounts), along with the Bitfenix Spectre & Spectre Pro 140's (not in that review) are some of the best (140mm) fans you can get. If your mobo can't control your current fan via a 3pin header (doesn't have to be a PWM fan to be controlled by the mobo) I'd probably just get a Spectre Pro since it comes with a 7V adapter and rubber mounts (if you don't want to buy a fan controller as well).
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
February 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#19000
On February 28 2012 07:44 brainox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:36 JingleHell wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:33 brainox wrote:
Hey I just want to buy another case fan. they seem to be all cheap so is there a recommendation for those things or are they all similar?
edit: 140mm case fan


No, it's a huge, in depth thing. Do you care about noise, do you use a fan controller, do you want to use a 3pin connector or a molex?

I have that build in front fan in my cooler master case. but its pretty loud imo and i cant control the speed. so i need a 140mm case fan to be either silent at full speed or those pwm fans? I dont use fan controller but either 3 pin connector or those pwm fans would be better i think.?!


Could you check if the fan mount for that fan also supports 120mm fans? Or link the case. Or both. 140mm fans are pretty bad in terms of noise if you're going for really quiet. Also, are you sure it's that fan that's making the most noise, as it could also be the heatsink, or the graphics card, or anything else in your case as well. We don't want you to spend $20 to replace a fan when it doesn't do anything to help.
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