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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
Everything seems stable so far. | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You can check RAM by installing memtest onto a bootable disc or flash drive, booting from that, and running it overnight. But unless you're having problems, no need to suspect or worry about anything, run tests, etc. I'd just check temperatures every once in awhile while the CPU and GPU is stressed, and make sure they're acceptable. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
HWMonitor is probably the ideal one for 90% of people. Just ignore the voltage readings, those are completely stupid. | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:33 Thorakh wrote: What kind of cheap (but still reliable) powersupply do I want for a 6870 + i5-2300? XFX Core Edition 450W (preferably not V2, which is the same except they removed some of the cables) or Super Flower Amazon 450W. European prices on most of the Antec units are not that good. Possibly some certain models of Chieftec. Corsair CX500 V2 maybe if you can't find the above, or CX430 V2 if you're fine using a molex adapter and being low on molex connectors. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Isn't that fine? o.O | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Actually I think the 350W L7 and other L7 are FSP, similar to the lowest-end Antec Basiq--not the newer VP stuff or some of the better Delta-made Basiq models like the Basiq Plus and BP430. edit: on second thought, I'm doubting the above (e.g. those Basiq are definitely not at the same efficiency levels as those L7, though they all should be FSP)...but the point still stands about low-end Be-Quiet! not being good. The 350W L7 also has short cables, just 1 PCIe and 3 molex (like CX430 but with much shorter cables). | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
Intel Core i5-2400 Sapphire Radeon HD6870 1GB Asus P8H67 B3,s1155 Corsair XMS3 1333MHz 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair CX 500WATT V2 I need a case for this, do I just buy the cheapest I can find, or do I need a case with at least some fans and whistles? I'm looking at a Cooler Master Sileo 500 at the moment. Would downgrading to a 6850 be worth it for this resolution? It's 20 euros cheaper. Can I downgrade the motherboard to a P8H61 to save money? I'm also going to put this together myself, my first time. These components shouldn't be too hard for me, right? edit: 1000th post! | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On October 31 2011 03:32 Thorakh wrote: + Show Spoiler + Alright thanks, how does this build look? It's for gaming at 1440*900. I have a feeling it's overkill for this resolution. I don't really care, as long as it lasts a long long time. Intel Core i5-2400 Sapphire Radeon HD6870 1GB Asus P8H67 B3,s1155 Corsair XMS3 1333MHz 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair CX 500WATT V2 I need a case for this, do I just buy the cheapest I can find, or do I need a case with at least some fans and whistles? I'm looking at a Cooler Master Sileo 500 at the moment. Would downgrading to a 6850 be worth it for this resolution? It's 20 euros cheaper. Can I downgrade the motherboard to a P8H61 to save money? I'm also going to put this together myself, my first time. These components shouldn't be too hard for me, right? edit: 1000th post! As Shikyo said, it's only slightly overkill for some games, but it will allow you to maybe max some others that you otherwise couldn't (example: with a HD 6870, I play at 1600x900 which is slightly bigger than your 1440x900 but I cannot max Crysis 2 with the DX11 and High Res textures patch because my FPS averages about 30ish outside and it's kinda choppy). Case - whatever pleases you, most cases are pretty alright but some can be poor (e.x. Xigmatek Asgard is not very sturdy/durable, but hey it's $30 what can you expect). You can downgrade to any mobo you want that has the features you need (though I'd stay away from ECS, Jetway, and Foxconn personally; originally said Biostar too but I've been reading and they seem like an OK budget manufacturer). Just make sure your case supports its form factor (most likely it does; "mini ATX" boards are a bit special, but most cases support ATX and microATX boards, which like 95% of boards are) EDIT: Corsair RAM tends to me more expensive also, you can get any 1333MHz 1.5V RAM kit. EDIT #2: HardwareCanucks video guide to building:+ Show Spoiler + | ||
TerrBear
United States7 Posts
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
Doesn't the motherboard chipset (H61, H67, P67, etc. if I'm correct) determine the quality of the board and therefore performance in general? Does it make any difference if RAM is rated 1.65V or 1.5V? | ||
ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
![]() what combo of processor and graphics card and PSU would be ok for about £200? it can go a bit over that, if its gonna be worth it finiancially | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 31 2011 06:29 TerrBear wrote: Does 64-bit vs 32-bit windows affect gaming performance at all? No, unless you're running 32-bit and have a lot of stuff open in addition to the game such that the memory-addressing limit becomes an issue. On October 31 2011 06:47 Thorakh wrote: Thanks for the tips. Doesn't the motherboard chipset (H61, H67, P67, etc. if I'm correct) determine the quality of the board and therefore performance in general? Does it make any difference if RAM is rated 1.65V or 1.5V? No, performance is pretty much identical on all compatible motherboards except for maybe how I/O (e.g. USB3 controller) is handled, but that's more of a difference between motherboard design rather than which chipset is used. A motherboard mostly just provides copper traces to connect stuff like the CPU, graphics card, and RAM together, peripheral controllers like Ethernet and audio, and power circuitry for handling the CPU and other components. Some high-end motherboard is not going to somehow change the logic inside the CPU to make it run faster. The chipset just determines which features are available for the motherboard manufacturer to implement. For example, H61 does not provide any SATA3 connections, whereas the other three support two of those in addition to the four SATA2 connections all those chipsets support. So most motherboards for H67, P67, and Z68 will take advantage of that and use two SATA3 ports. But some H61 motherboards will provide SATA3 ports through a third-party controller, and some other motherboards will also use third-party controllers to provide more than two SATA3 ports. As in most things, it depends on the motherboard model. For socket 1155 systems, Intel recommends 1.5V RAM to prevent (long-term) damage to the memory controller. So higher is worse. In practice, 1.65V is not so high that it's probably going to be an issue, so that's most likely okay. On October 31 2011 07:02 ThatGuy89 wrote: sorry im being a right pain ![]() what combo of processor and graphics card and PSU would be ok for about £200? it can go a bit over that, if its gonna be worth it finiancially Does that price include motherboard and RAM? If you're upgrading an old system, you need a new motherboard and possibly RAM (you will if you don't have DDR3) to support a new processor. | ||
iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:09 Myrmidon wrote: No, unless you're running 32-bit and have a lot of stuff open in addition to the game such that the memory-addressing limit becomes an issue. No, performance is pretty much identical on all compatible motherboards except for maybe how I/O (e.g. USB3 controller) is handled, but that's more of a difference between motherboard design rather than which chipset is used. A motherboard mostly just provides copper traces to connect stuff like the CPU, graphics card, and RAM together, peripheral controllers like Ethernet and audio, and power circuitry for handling the CPU and other components. Some high-end motherboard is not going to somehow change the logic inside the CPU to make it run faster. The chipset just determines which features are available for the motherboard manufacturer to implement. For example, H61 does not provide any SATA3 connections, whereas the other three support two of those in addition to the four SATA2 connections all those chipsets support. So most motherboards for H67, P67, and Z68 will take advantage of that and use two SATA3 ports. But some H61 motherboards will provide SATA3 ports through a third-party controller, and some other motherboards will also use third-party controllers to provide more than two SATA3 ports. As in most things, it depends on the motherboard model. For socket 1155 systems, Intel recommends 1.5V RAM to prevent (long-term) damage to the memory controller. So higher is worse. In practice, 1.65V is not so high that it's probably going to be an issue, so that's most likely okay. Does that price include motherboard and RAM? If you're upgrading an old system, you need a new motherboard and possibly RAM (you will if you don't have DDR3) to support a new processor. sorry, i meant ive got everything but the graphics and processor this mobo http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q5W7EM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE and 8gb ddr3 ram got the OS case hard drive and everything else, just want the best possible components for about £200 | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:11 iKill[ShocK] wrote: What does it mean to use a graphic card for dedicated physx? im really confused about it Some games use Nvidia's proprietary physics SDK called PhysX. One feature is that you can offload some of these physics calculations to an Nvidia GPU. It's possible to use two GPUs, one running just the PhysX calculations, and the other doing normal work. The secondary one running PhysX need not be very powerful, since it doesn't need to do that much work. In these scenarios, you can get slightly higher performance with such a dedicated PhysX GPU, than without. On October 31 2011 07:11 hYdrA-MeNo wrote: So im uying parts right now an a question came up between me and my brother which is the total cost of the parts is around 750ish. the question is that investment of 750 = what on a normal built computer from lets say ibuypower. would it be like a 1000 dollar computer if everything is right? That depends on ibuypower sales, how good you are at finding components, what kind of deals you got on components, what kind of components you're getting (best deals or more premium options), and so on. But $750 -> $1000 is optimistic, assuming you're comparing with a relatively good ibuypower configuration. There's usually not that much difference. Maybe $750 -> $900, if you need to purchase an OS for $100? I don't keep much track of prebuilt prices. | ||
hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:20 Myrmidon wrote: Some games use Nvidia's proprietary physics SDK called PhysX. One feature is that you can offload some of these physics calculations to an Nvidia GPU. It's possible to use two GPUs, one running just the PhysX calculations, and the other doing normal work. The secondary one running PhysX need not be very powerful, since it doesn't need to do that much work. In these scenarios, you can get slightly higher performance with such a dedicated PhysX GPU, than without. That depends on ibuypower sales, how good you are at finding components, what kind of deals you got on components, what kind of components you're getting (best deals or more premium options), and so on. But $750 -> $1000 is optimistic, assuming you're comparing with a relatively good ibuypower configuration. There's usually not that much difference. Maybe $750 -> $900, if you need to purchase an OS for $100? I don't keep much track of prebuilt prices. thanks i just wanted to see the diffrence between what im spending vs what i would spend | ||
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:17 ThatGuy89 wrote: sorry, i meant ive got everything but the graphics and processor this mobo http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q5W7EM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE and 8gb ddr3 ram got the OS case hard drive and everything else, just want the best possible components for about £200 Pentium G850 - £60 link (special price) Asus HD 6770 - £86 link Corsair CX430 V2 - £35 link | ||
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