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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 30 2011 02:09 ThatGuy89 wrote: the graphics doesnt bother me that much, its more the CPU. I thought SC2 was a really processor dependant game, so was thinking an i3. But doing it this cheap is pretty cheap, if its gonna perform well too You'd be wanting to run it on lowest settings right? Like right now I'm testing my old computer that's got Athlon x64 4000+ with GT 420(the processor is 5 years old and the graphics card is still significantly worse than 6450) and the framerate's alternating between 50 and 60 fps. This comparison is for pentium G620 vs i3 2100 but Celeron G530 basically just has like 10% lower performance than Pentium G620: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=406 So as you can see the difference between those processors in SC2 is less than 20% and price difference is about 250% but as I said, even my 5 year old Athlon can have over 50 fps on low so you wouldn't even notice the difference. (Okay to be honest the FPS drops down to like 20 during large battles but still hey) Oh also actually 6450 might be cutting it kind of close, GT 240 and HD 5570 would both be cheap and significantly better | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
graphic http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50695&agid=1004 processor http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47352&agid=1617 so these are ok? thats 130e how will it compare against 90e of the 6450 and g530 | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50380&agid=1617 http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48616&agid=554 Actually this seems good. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
and the fps in sc2 will be decent? like attacking a zerg on creep im not gonna be skipping every 3 seconds or something | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
The expected FPS for low would be like 80 I'd say. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 30 2011 02:33 Shikyo wrote: As I said my computer has a processor that's about as good as G530 and on lowest settings in 1920x1080 I have 110-150 fps depending on action and this is with about 20 programs open in windowed fullscreen The expected FPS for low would be like 80 I'd say. Must not be a lot of action. Closer to worker rushing frames per second. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 30 2011 02:39 Medrea wrote: Must not be a lot of action. Closer to worker rushing frames per second. Just not largescale battle FPS. :/ Best CPU for SC2 would probably be i3 2130 but I don't think it's necessary for low | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I'd err on the side of overkill on the CPU generally, if there's a question about it. You don't want to find out that your new CPU isn't enough for what you want to do. And fps during large battles is very important, since that's when you need to focus and actually micro, not to mention when stuttering would be easily apparent... | ||
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TuckFexas
United States154 Posts
What is your budget? About 600-700$, i could go over if persuaded though. What is your resolution? 1680 x 1050 *i could buy another monitor, this is just one i already have What are you using it for? Starcraft 2, WoW, and if skyrim would run on it id play that too (otherwise i have an xbox). *would be cool to stream sc2 (i play on lowest and the stream wouldn't need to be high res) What is your upgrade cycle? I'm going to college in a year, and will be giving this computer to my family once i leave. They wont ever upgrade it When do you plan on building it? As soon as I have all the parts Do you plan on overclocking? i don't know what overclocking is but if its needed i'll do it Do you need an OS? yes and i am a student *unless pirate bay could give it to me Do you plan to add a second GPU for crossfire or SLI? uh... probably not? Where are you buying your parts from? Wherever they are cheapest (USA) Thanks in advance! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Here's a bit above $600 without the OS. Since you're not overclocking and thus not needing an i5-2500k I don't think NCIX has much better deals this week. You could save maybe like $10 on the hard drive or something like that. Core i5-2400 and PNY 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.747218 AsRock H61M/U3S3 - $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 Sapphire HD 6850 - $140, $125 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 Hitachi 500GB 7200rpm - $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 Corsair CX430 V2 - $45, $35 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 Antec Three Hundred Illusion - $45 after promo code (ends 10/31) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 edit: changed power supply and case + Show Spoiler [old] + On second thought, the Core 1000 would not allow you to fit a second hard drive with that graphics card, so maybe a bit limited and cramped. The above deal is better in general. I swapped the power supply as well since the Earthwatts cables are doable but a bit short for a bottom mount ATX tower/ Antec Earthwatts Green 380D - $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 Fractal Design Core 1000 - $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009 | ||
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Gatez
Sweden1 Post
What is your budget? My Budget is 1000 euro. (this is for a monitor aswell) What is your resolution? Since I'm getting a new monitor aswell I dont know yet What are you using it for? Only gaming except for school work etc  What is your upgrade cycle? My upgrade range is probally around 1 and 1/2 years. When do you plan on building it? my plan is to do it as quick as possible because BF3 just being released and soon skyrim, I feel like I need an upgrade. but I dont know enough about computers to do it myself. Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Simply because I dont know how to do it. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I will most probally buy my parts from: http://www.komplett.se/k/k.aspx But I asume that most of the people here wont be able to understand that website. feel free to recommend parts from other websites Here's a converter from Swedish Kronor to Euros/Dollars/Pounds Swedish Kronor ---> Euros 1€ = 9 Swedish Kronor Swedish Kronor ---> Dollar 1$ = 6.4 Swedish Kronor Swedish Kronor ---> Pounds 1£ = 10.3 Swedish Kronor | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=646588 MSI H61MU-E35 - 690 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=627020 MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II - 1,955 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=622728 Kingston 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - 399 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=578918 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - 999 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=620189 Sony CD / DVD-RW - 190 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=645800 Chieftec A-85 500W - 545 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=645491 Fractal Design Core 3000 - 599 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=634682 Samsung 21.5" 1920x1080 SyncMaster S22A300B - 1,279 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=627387 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - 869 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=629550 Feel free to get a different case more to your liking and/or a larger monitor if you wish. (some other things can easily be adjusted down to meet 1000 euros strictly, if that is needed) | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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TuckFexas
United States154 Posts
The videocard you linked me to has a 500w PSU minimum requirement, and the PSU you gave me is 420w. Can you explain why this still works? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:48 TuckFexas wrote: Myrmidon, thanks for the help i really appreciate it. One question though. The videocard you linked me to has a 500w PSU minimum requirement, and the PSU you gave me is 420w. Can you explain why this still works? well, HD 4850 has PSU requirement of 450W and I'm running it overclocked to max on a 300W PSU npnp. It works because they overkill the requirements to account for terrible PSUs so that their clients wont sue them or something. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You'd have a hard time making a HD 6850 pull over 130W itself unless overclocked. I'd be surprised if the whole system topped 200W while running games, so that's well within the capabilities of both power supplies listed. | ||
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