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LeKiNGG
Canada110 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
The entire nation of Thailand is really suffering atm, in general. | ||
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LeKiNGG
Canada110 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:20 Myrmidon wrote: Some games use Nvidia's proprietary physics SDK called PhysX. One feature is that you can offload some of these physics calculations to an Nvidia GPU. It's possible to use two GPUs, one running just the PhysX calculations, and the other doing normal work. The secondary one running PhysX need not be very powerful, since it doesn't need to do that much work. In these scenarios, you can get slightly higher performance with such a dedicated PhysX GPU, than without. So would it be wise to use my gts 450 as a dedicated PhysX card? Cause i'm planning to pick up a 460 or 560 at Black Friday. Or should i wait & save up for 570/580? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 31 2011 11:45 iKill[ShocK] wrote: So would it be wise to use my gts 450 as a dedicated PhysX card? Cause i'm planning to pick up a 460 or 560 at Black Friday. Or should i wait & save up for 570/580? No harm in trying it out and verifying it actually increases performance instead of lowering it. If the second card is too far behind it will bottleneck the group. I wouldn't recommend a 580 to anyone, ever, honestly. Not very cost effective except for people who want to avoid ATI or any kind of multi GPU configurations, both of which are admirable I suppose. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
This system is an i3-2100. Paired with an HD 5570. The resolution is 768p. Total cost of system was to not exceed 300 dollars. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34863088/open.PNG) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34863088/filled.PNG) Opponent AI is not turned on so expect framerate to drop further. However this will test the processor, which is this systems strong point. My conclusion is that Diablo 3 is VERY system friendly. Which allows the game to be able to be snuck into additional platforms that other games are barred from, as long as the socket is modern. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
I just stumbled upon this hyperlink: http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Processor-(8M-Cache-3_40-GHz) and it seems to be intel's official site. If you scroll down to Ordering and Spec Information around the middle you will see two different promo codes, one offering the product for 317 and the other for 326 dollars. Are they selling i7's for the same price as i5's? x Are they selling anything at all? Thanks  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And i5's don't cost $300... | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 So what do you mean price seems nice? I'm very confused | ||
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modipeluri
Finland17 Posts
My question is, is there any benefit to me for having another one if I use just one display? What if I have two displays? Does it matter that the cards are from different manufacturers? My power supply is a XFX 550W Core Edition, would it be able to handle two 560's, the processor and the other stuff? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
And assuming it's a 1080p monitor, yes it's going to be reasonably useful, at least for futureproofing and also for running at absolute max settings. Your mobo would need to support SLi though. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Could a mini-itx system retain low power (<100W peak, ~15W idle) while being powerful enough for older games like, say, Starcraft II on lower settings and decent framerate? The cheapest setup I see available is: Mobo + CPU: ~$100 * CPU: AMD Zacate E350 Dual-core * ASRock E350M1 - Radeon 6310 integrated - Sata3 - RAM clock 1066MHz 4GB ram: ~$25 250GB HDD: ~$50 Case: ~$20 For a total of ~$200. Now, I'm willing to double that if it means reasonable gaming (replacing my aging Athlon 3000 system), otherwise I just want to use it as a home server. I'd even be willing to get an SSD instead of a HDD and go up to $500 if it means I could do away with my old computer. In particular, I'm looking at the OCZ Solid 3 60GB. (Never seen the chipsets that are being sold for mini-itx so I have no idea how well they perform, or how much cooling they need, or if the fans would be noisy... at idle, that is.) Also, I'd be willing to consider micro-atx systems if they use low power as well, but I've been given the impression that they tend to use >30W idle. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 31 2011 19:55 BottleAbuser wrote: I want to get a mini-itx form factor computer. Could a mini-itx system retain low power (<100W peak, ~15W idle) while being powerful enough for older games like, say, Starcraft II on lower settings and decent framerate? The cheapest setup I see available is: Mobo + CPU: ~$100 * CPU: AMD Zacate E350 Dual-core * ASRock E350M1 - Radeon 6310 integrated - Sata3 - RAM clock 1066MHz 4GB ram: ~$25 250GB HDD: ~$50 Case: ~$20 For a total of ~$200. Now, I'm willing to double that if it means reasonable gaming (replacing my aging Athlon 3000 system), otherwise I just want to use it as a home server. I'd even be willing to get an SSD instead of a HDD and go up to $500 if it means I could do away with my old computer. In particular, I'm looking at the OCZ Solid 3 60GB. (Never seen the chipsets that are being sold for mini-itx so I have no idea how well they perform, or how much cooling they need, or if the fans would be noisy... at idle, that is.) Zacate would really get screwed with SC2, both CPU- and GPU-wise. Less than 100w peak consumption is really difficult to achieve if you really are looking to game decently. IMO your best bet would be to get a mini-ITX mobo for A8-3800 and then get a mini-ITX case with a 180-200w PSU. You won't be able to stay below 100w peak consumption that way though but that's the best I can do. Another option would be to go for a sandybridge system with mini-ITX H61, Celeron G530 and something like 6670 if you use a typical case without an expansion slot. This might actually be the best option but it'll consume more power than the A8-3800. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Tangential question: would it be reasonable to expect a "APU" to work together with a discrete graphics card, or would it make more sense to get a cheaper CPU if I get a discrete one? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:27 BottleAbuser wrote: If I go for replacing my older system entirely I'm okay with a higher peak power draw, as long as the idle power doesn't increase drastically. Is the A8-3800 the AMD FM1 socket? Tangential question: would it be reasonable to expect a "APU" to work together with a discrete graphics card, or would it make more sense to get a cheaper CPU if I get a discrete one? You can crossfire the APU with some discrete cards, namely 6450, 6570, and 6670. However it seems to only support directx 10 and 11 games and with DirectX9 the FPS will slightly increase from the APUs FPS but will be still lower than with the discrete card alone... That's going to throw your low-power approach out the window though. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
CPU: AMD A8 3850: 182,000 won Mobo: Zotac A75 : 180,000 won ram: 1.8Ghz, 2*4GB: 100,000 won Case: 160W PSU included : 100,000 won SSD: OCZ Solid3 60GB : 125,000 won With shipping and currency conversion, that turns into about $620. That's over my initial budget but the thought of getting rid of my 7 year old computer is pushing me. At almost exactly a third the price I could get a mini-ITX home server, but the additional functionality should make this worth it. My only concern is that 160W might not be enough. I can't seem to easily find power ratings for the SSD and mobo, and I don't know if it even makes sense to ask how much power the ram would use. | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On October 31 2011 22:39 BottleAbuser wrote: Okay, I think I'm going for something like this: CPU: AMD A8 3850: 182,000 won Mobo: Zotac A75 : 180,000 won ram: 1.8Ghz, 2*4GB: 100,000 won Case: 160W PSU included : 100,000 won SSD: OCZ Solid3 60GB : 125,000 won With shipping and currency conversion, that turns into about $620. That's over my initial budget but the thought of getting rid of my 7 year old computer is pushing me. At almost exactly a third the price I could get a mini-ITX home server, but the additional functionality should make this worth it. My only concern is that 160W might not be enough. I can't seem to easily find power ratings for the SSD and mobo, and I don't know if it even makes sense to ask how much power the ram would use. I am not the most hardware savvy but if budget is an issue, you shouldnt be getting a SSD for a gaming computer. (I also believe that OCZ isnt very reliable, you want crucial/intel/samsung). if this is for SC2/gaming, which use 2 cores, you should go with an Intel CPU/MOBO will yield better results. (if its for sc2 only, you can get a good cpu and a shit gpu) Edit: I understand your needs, but just make sure the FPS (at your resolution) of what you are going to build is acceptable for you before you build it. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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