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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 05:52 GMT
#13921
So now with 2700k, 2600k is obsolete right?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 29 2011 06:04 GMT
#13922
So the Performance one series is quiet because of great build quality and design

And the other is quiet because, well it has fkn foam but has a questionable front door.

I don't need the door that much. But are 3 120mm fans enough for cooling an OC 2500k and an OC GTX460 that vents inside the case? Ambient temps I can see ranging 65-80 throughout the year

I like both of the cases.
An itch only a deadlift can scratch
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 06:23:08
October 29 2011 06:08 GMT
#13923
On October 29 2011 14:46 Shikyo wrote:
The problem with P183 imo is that graphics cards won't fit, so yeah I think it might be the better choice if they do.

130$ is underprice for it anyway. But I'm not sure about the front panel, I didn't see it mentioned in the reviews I read.


Because reviews never cover anything substantial - most of these guys get shipped a case and all they do look at it (I'm somewhat convinced TechPowerUp doesn't even turn their cases on). Some might put a system inside the computer, run the occasional test, and write some shitty review about it. Very few use it for a sustainable amount of time (i.e month), if they did all of them would have found out about the Antec Solo's utterly pathetic power switch.

The P183 fits 10.5" long GPUs perfectly, have you used or seen one before? If for whatever reason you need more room, take the hard drive cage out.

On October 29 2011 15:04 89vision wrote:
So the Performance one series is quiet because of great build quality and design

And the other is quiet because, well it has fkn foam but has a questionable front door.

I don't need the door that much. But are 3 120mm fans enough for cooling an OC 2500k and an OC GTX460 that vents inside the case? Ambient temps I can see ranging 65-80 throughout the year

I like both of the cases.


Overclocking and noise reduction doesn't go hand in hand - noise dampening just dampens the noise but if the internal components are bloody loud, you can't do much about reducing the noise. The CPU will be fine inside the P183 but the GTX460 will get rather loud if you're pushing a lot of voltage inside it.

Though if you don't need the top two hard drives, you can clip a 120mm fan onto the hard drive cage to create a GPU air duct. The GTX460 is a really short card so I can't imagine the 120mm fan blocking anything - to provide a frame of reference, I had a reference HD5850 in my old P183 with a Noctua NF-P12 clipped on the hard drive cage.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 06:22 GMT
#13924
10.5" yeah exactly, this means they wouldn't fit 6950 or 6970. As I said it doesn't matter if the card indeed can fit...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 29 2011 06:23 GMT
#13925
This is my first build. Last thing to choose is the case, want something I can barely hear while playing movies at lower volumes. I have Klipsch 2.1 speakers.

My card fits fine in both cases. I think...based on the measurements given.

Will 3 120mm fans cool an OC 2500k and an OC GTX460 that vents inside the case? Ambient temps 65-80

An itch only a deadlift can scratch
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 29 2011 06:28 GMT
#13926
The GTX460 is 8.25" long. There is no way you aren't going to fit that card in any mid-tower computer case made in this century.

And yes, three (four if you're using the hard drive fan clips) 120mm fans is enough to cool a single overclocked GPU and CPU. I've ran an overclocked HD5850 and i5-750 in an Antec P183 without any problems during the Australian summer (40C = ~100F).
89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 29 2011 06:35 GMT
#13927
Any comment on the sound dampening capabilities of the P183?
An itch only a deadlift can scratch
Xan09
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2 Posts
October 29 2011 06:53 GMT
#13928
Hello, I’m a complete noob here when it comes to builds. I’ve answered all of the questions the first post asked

My Budget for a new computer would be at 1000-1500 preferrably. My current screens resolution is 1920 x 1200 and I’ll be using it for gaming, photoshopping, a medium amount of video encoding, and will most likely branch out into streaming eventually (Overkill I know). My upgrade cycle is normally 2 years however my current computers are on their 3rd year. It will most likely take me around 5-6 months to have saved up enough for a new build. I know nothing of overclocking so I won’t try and I don’t need a new OS. I’ll probably be looking to add a second agraphics card eventually for SLI as well. I do not need a hard drive as the 2 internal drives I have are still good. This is my first attempt at a real “build” all my other builds have been just adding upgrades to a machine a friend built me, so I do not have any idea of where tog et the parts for a good price.

Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me. I really appreciate it.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 07:36:57
October 29 2011 07:31 GMT
#13929
On October 29 2011 15:35 89vision wrote:
Any comment on the sound dampening capabilities of the P183?


Hard drive mounting is still by far the best in the industry (very thick gooey silicon mounts), weights a lot and uses silicon feet instead of rubber so vibrations will be rare, uses a three layer design for the side panels that absorbs vibrations much better than the cheap foam crap most people pass off as sound dampening material, and has good indirect air intakes that reduces noise and doesn't restrict air.

Only things that suck are the included fans, you have to open the door to access the power button, and its size. Antec TriCools are not very good fans and its close to being as large as an actual full tower.

On October 29 2011 15:53 Xan09 wrote:
Hello, I’m a complete noob here when it comes to builds. I’ve answered all of the questions the first post asked

My Budget for a new computer would be at 1000-1500 preferrably. My current screens resolution is 1920 x 1200 and I’ll be using it for gaming, photoshopping, a medium amount of video encoding, and will most likely branch out into streaming eventually (Overkill I know). My upgrade cycle is normally 2 years however my current computers are on their 3rd year. It will most likely take me around 5-6 months to have saved up enough for a new build. I know nothing of overclocking so I won’t try and I don’t need a new OS. I’ll probably be looking to add a second agraphics card eventually for SLI as well. I do not need a hard drive as the 2 internal drives I have are still good. This is my first attempt at a real “build” all my other builds have been just adding upgrades to a machine a friend built me, so I do not have any idea of where tog et the parts for a good price.

Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me. I really appreciate it.


Wait till you have the money saved up then ask again. As you probably know, computer hardware moves extremely quickly so half the stuff we suggest to you now might not actually exist in 5-6 months time or be rendered obsolete by better hardware.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 14:35 GMT
#13930
Oh by the way about power supplies:

I'm running an overclocked 4850 on a 300w bronze PSU with 240w max 12V output no problem, so I'd say that you don't really need a huge PSU, especially considering that 4850 consumption is very high.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 29 2011 15:17 GMT
#13931
ok, im curious, whats the cheapest way i could build a pc able to run SC2 on the lowest settings with very little/no lag at 200/200? This is what i already have:

mobo
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Q5W7EM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

HD
samsung F3 1TB

Ram
8gb ddr3

i have an old case, but it'll do. I have all the peripherals, and an OS

so all i need is GPU, CPU, power supply

so whats the complete bare minimum i could do it with?
thanks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 15:27 GMT
#13932
amd 6450, intel celeron g530, a random 300w PSU that costs no more than 25£
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 29 2011 15:34 GMT
#13933
g540 is same price now as g530
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 15:37 GMT
#13934
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articlesearch.jsp?agid=1617&search.reset=1&search.sKey=
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 15:44:28
October 29 2011 15:44 GMT
#13935
Strange, i thought they were suposed to make the g850 equal the cost of the 840 and the 540 to the 530

mb i misread something somewhere
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Grohnn
Profile Joined October 2011
15 Posts
October 29 2011 16:09 GMT
#13936
Hi guys, i want to build a computer to play skyrim, battlefield 3, arkam asylum, sc2 on high settings on a monitor with 1920x1080 res.

i already made a list with the components im thinking buying but i would like your opinions on upgrades to my choices.

INTEL CORE i5 2500K (3.3GHZ) SKT 1155
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3-B3*
KINGSTON KIT 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ HYPERX (CL9)
COOLERMASTER ELITE 430 BLACK
WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB SATA III 64MB BLACK
ASUS DVD±R 24X DRW-24B3ST BLACK BULK (SATA)
CORSAIR TX-650W V2
EVGA GTX560 Ti SC 1GB DDR5 PCI-E*
total: 901.20 EUR = 1,274 USD

My range is 1000 Euros = 1,414USD

Thanks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 29 2011 16:20 GMT
#13937
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47588&agid=1601
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224&agid=1617
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255&agid=669
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48895&agid=631
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=42805&agid=1342
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39743&agid=707

If you want to use all of the 1000e and dont like multi-gpu
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 29 2011 16:42 GMT
#13938
On October 30 2011 00:27 Shikyo wrote:
amd 6450, intel celeron g530, a random 300w PSU that costs no more than 25£

holy shit. So for less then £100?

sorry this is gonna sound stupid, but how good of a pc will that be? it'll run sc2 perfectly, just browsing the internet and stuff it wont be slow? will i be able to run SC2 at the same time as playing music? and what are the chances of it running HOTS and D3?

thanks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 16:51:17
October 29 2011 16:50 GMT
#13939
On October 30 2011 01:42 ThatGuy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 00:27 Shikyo wrote:
amd 6450, intel celeron g530, a random 300w PSU that costs no more than 25£

holy shit. So for less then £100?

sorry this is gonna sound stupid, but how good of a pc will that be? it'll run sc2 perfectly, just browsing the internet and stuff it wont be slow? will i be able to run SC2 at the same time as playing music? and what are the chances of it running HOTS and D3?
thanks

6450 is pretty good for minimum level graphics card but it's still obviously not that good. It'll probably maintain 60 fps in 1080p SC2 on low should run diablo3 on lowest as well. And yeah you'd be able to play music while playing SC2, I can do that on my single core Athlon x64 4000+ with a GT420.

If 6450 seems too low to you, read this for ideas:
http://www.techspot.com/review/392-budget-gpu-comparison/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 29 2011 17:09 GMT
#13940
On October 30 2011 01:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 01:42 ThatGuy89 wrote:
On October 30 2011 00:27 Shikyo wrote:
amd 6450, intel celeron g530, a random 300w PSU that costs no more than 25£

holy shit. So for less then £100?

sorry this is gonna sound stupid, but how good of a pc will that be? it'll run sc2 perfectly, just browsing the internet and stuff it wont be slow? will i be able to run SC2 at the same time as playing music? and what are the chances of it running HOTS and D3?
thanks

6450 is pretty good for minimum level graphics card but it's still obviously not that good. It'll probably maintain 60 fps in 1080p SC2 on low should run diablo3 on lowest as well. And yeah you'd be able to play music while playing SC2, I can do that on my single core Athlon x64 4000+ with a GT420.

If 6450 seems too low to you, read this for ideas:
http://www.techspot.com/review/392-budget-gpu-comparison/

the graphics doesnt bother me that much, its more the CPU. I thought SC2 was a really processor dependant game, so was thinking an i3. But doing it this cheap is pretty cheap, if its gonna perform well too
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