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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 29 2011 07:06 GMT
#10401
Would it be worth paying a little more for a Crucial M4 if you have a motherboard with 6gbit/s port rather than to go for a intel 320 (it's on sale atm). The crucial is ~13 % more expensive.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
TheSkeward
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1 Post
August 29 2011 08:51 GMT
#10402
Hey, I'd like some help with a build. I'm new to this, and I have a more experienced friend who will be helping me put this together. This will be my first gaming PC.

Budget: $600. That's a strict budget which encompasses everything from the parts to the case to the monitor, speakers, mouse, keyboard, and OS. That is all the money I'm able to spend on this from the ground up - I will not be able to spend $605.
Resolution: The higher the better, but I'm not that concerned with it. I'd be comfortable with something like 1280x1024.
Usage: Mostly gaming. It doesn't need to be an absolute beast, but I'd like for it to be able to run any modern strategy game, RPG, or MOBA without stuttering - if that means lower settings, that's okay.
Upgrade cycle: I have no idea. This is my first build.
Time: Now.
Overclocking: I'm fine with the idea, sounds cool, but it's more of a means to an end. I'm not attached to the idea - whatever gives me the most bang for my buck.
Operating System: Yes, I'd like the bare-bones edition of Windows 7. I think I'd like a 64-bit version, though I'm not clear on the practical distinction. I'm a student; I've heard a rumor that you can get a student version for $30, but I don't know how to go about verifying that.
Second GPU: I have no idea. If it fits within my price range and provides higher performance, that would be great.
Store: I'm in the contiguous U.S. I figured I'd buy from Newegg, but if that's not the best place, I'll go with whatever's better.

Thanks in advance!
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#10403

cpu + ram combo 115$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.695726
mobo 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313
antec 300 illusion 60$ -15$ of instant rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
corsair cx430 v2 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
dvd burner + 500 gb 7200 rpm hdd 53.5$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696167
gtx460 1gb 150$, 120$ after mail in rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326

for the os as a student you can it or cheap

this build comes up to 450$ and 420$ AMIR and it will max out any game at your resolution without fps issues

the mouse and keyboard are personal preference so choose your own

"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
August 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#10404
I'd get a dif PSU since the cx430 has to few connectors.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
August 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#10405
I've been comparing the Asus p8p67 and the Asrock P67. The Asrock says it supports the k-series cpu but it doesnt say for the Asus, does that mean the asus doesnt support i5 2500k? Also it seems the Asrock doesnt have USB 3.0, how important is that?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 29 2011 13:18 GMT
#10406
Asrock P67 Pro3 has USB3 ports. It has two: all USB3.0 ports are blue, that's how you differentiate USB3 from USB2.

All P67 motherboards support unlocked multipliers and therefore support k-series processor overclocking. There's a few which have dodgy BIOSes but they're all capable of it.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 29 2011 14:10 GMT
#10407
The AsRock P67 Pro (not Pro3) has no USB3. You can always add an expansion card with USB3 later on if you want. That's kind of what's happening with motherboards with USB3 support--they use a third-party controller hooked up on the back end through a PCIe 1x lane to the P67 chipset. If you used an expansion card, it would be a card with a third-party USB3 controller that would be hooked up on the back end through a PCIe 1x lane to the P67 chipset.

Unless you have USB3 devices, it's not really going to help. Those would typically be newer external hard drives, high-performance USB flash drives, A/V capture interfaces, maybe digital cameras/camcorders--essentially anything that would actually need a higher data rate than USB2 can support.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 29 2011 14:14 GMT
#10408
Well, technically, there is some incredibly minimal value to USB3 connection for USB2 flash drives and such, but it's the sort that can only be found with synthetic benchies and isn't worth fussing over.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4523/usb-30-flash-drive-roundup/7
seve
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
August 29 2011 14:16 GMT
#10409
+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: I5 2400
Mobo: Asrock H61m-S
Ram: G.skill 1333mhz CL9
Case: Xigmatek Asgard II
PSU: Super Flower Amazon 450W
HDD: Spinpoint f3 1tb
GPU: XFX 6950 1gb
Optical drive: Liteon dvd/rw

568,14 euro

Leaves you some money to get a better case, mobo or that network adapter. you could allso downgrade de GPU to a 6870 if you need that extra 50 euro.


Hey Madoga,
thanks a lot for this build! I will tell my brother about this build and see what he can do to make it happen, since it seems better and cheaper than the prebuilt options.

Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 29 2011 14:29 GMT
#10410
doesnt have an os though, but usually that isnt a problem
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
seve
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
August 29 2011 14:53 GMT
#10411
doesnt have an os though, but usually that isnt a problem


The prebuilt ones didn't have an OS either so thats fine.
But could you tell me how much worse the build would be with a downgrade for the cpu and the gpu?

For example: CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Boxed
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 Rev. 3.1
GPU: HD 6870

That would be around 70-80 Euros cheaper, but would it affect playing games (not necessarily on highest settings) much? An would the build be viable with this changes?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 29 2011 15:01 GMT
#10412
The 6870 is better than a GTX 460.

The Phenom II X4 should not be less expensive than the G850. The Pentium G850 is nearly identical to that of a core i3 2100 and is much better than a Phenom II X4 given that you don't need the two extra cores. Keep in mind very few games take advantage of four cores, most still only do two.
seve
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
August 29 2011 15:28 GMT
#10413
4GB Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10667U CL9 18,35 €

Intel Pentium G850 Box, LGA1155 74,79 €

ASRock H67M-GE (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX 78,53 €

ASUS AMD Radeon HD 6870, 1GB, PCI- Express 142,16 €

Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II 33,04 €

Xigmatek Asgard II Midi Tower 32,26 €

Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W 42,77 €

LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA 16,94 €

Makes a total of 438,84 €

Is this a reasonable build for lets say the next two years? He doesn't have to play games on the highest settings, but would this work out for about two years with lets say medium settings?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 29 2011 15:55 GMT
#10414
well the can play most games on maxed for now, so unless graphics evolves a lot it should still be reasonable (it better be, i have an hd6870 too :p)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
August 29 2011 16:13 GMT
#10415
Just 3 quick questions:

1- Can the H61 Mobo be used with a i7 2600 cpu?

2.- Does the H61 support 2 GPU or just 1?

3.- The Geforce GT 450 is the best GPU I can get on my city. (85$) Is it worth it or should i just wait for the delivery of a better gpu from another city. (It takes several days in Bolivia). I'm planning on using dual monitors.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 16:25:04
August 29 2011 16:22 GMT
#10416
On August 30 2011 01:13 00Zarathustra wrote:
Just 3 quick questions:

1- Can the H61 Mobo be used with a i7 2600 cpu?

2.- Does the H61 support 2 GPU or just 1?

3.- The Geforce GT 450 is the best GPU I can get on my city. (85$) Is it worth it or should i just wait for the delivery of a better gpu from another city. (It takes several days in Bolivia). I'm planning on using dual monitors.


1) Yes (although I must ask if you need a i7-2600 over an i5-2500)

2) No (If you're using a gts450, why are you considering SLI?)

3) It's a good value for $85. But it can't handle dual monitors (if you're trying to game)
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 16:43:40
August 29 2011 16:43 GMT
#10417
On August 30 2011 01:22 CharlieBrownsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 01:13 00Zarathustra wrote:
Just 3 quick questions:

1- Can the H61 Mobo be used with a i7 2600 cpu?

2.- Does the H61 support 2 GPU or just 1?

3.- The Geforce GT 450 is the best GPU I can get on my city. (85$) Is it worth it or should i just wait for the delivery of a better gpu from another city. (It takes several days in Bolivia). I'm planning on using dual monitors.


1) Yes (although I must ask if you need a i7-2600 over an i5-2500)

2) No (If you're using a gts450, why are you considering SLI?)

3) It's a good value for $85. But it can't handle dual monitors (if you're trying to game)


Nvm read completely incorrectly.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
August 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#10418
Can someone point me out to an online store (preferably Amazon or Newegg) that sells authentic Cat5 ethernet cable ... 100 ft long ... or just some quality 100 ft long ethernet cables on either or those two sites? A lot of the cables on Amazon are super cheap but of particularly good quality (see comments/reviews).
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
August 29 2011 17:44 GMT
#10419
Thx CharlieBrownsc.

I don't want to SLI. It's just that Bolivian sellers will tell you anything just to charge you more money. So I want to know the facts.

So If I'm using just one GPU I'm looking for GTX 465 and up right?
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 17:51:38
August 29 2011 17:47 GMT
#10420
On August 30 2011 02:44 00Zarathustra wrote:
Thx CharlieBrownsc.

I don't want to SLI. It's just that Bolivian sellers will tell you anything just to charge you more money. So I want to know the facts.

So If I'm using just one GPU I'm looking for GTX 465 and up right?


dont get a 465 ever. its the half retarded brother of the 460.

that said if you buy a good cpu like the i7 then ya, i wouldnt consider anything below a 460 or 6850/5850. other slightly more expensive options are the 470/6870 or a 560ti/6950 as the next step
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