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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 29 2011 17:49 GMT
#10421
On August 30 2011 02:47 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 02:44 00Zarathustra wrote:
Thx CharlieBrownsc.

I don't want to SLI. It's just that Bolivian sellers will tell you anything just to charge you more money. So I want to know the facts.

So If I'm using just one GPU I'm looking for GTX 465 and up right?


dont get a 465 ever. its the half retarded brother of the 460.


That's putting it nicely, IMO. A 465 is about as useful as an umbrella in a hurricane, with worse price/performance.
ilimor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:20:57
August 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#10422
What is your budget?
Around 1000$ could go a bit higher if necessary (or lower if possible)

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 (+ 1920x1080 secondary screen)

What are you using it for?
Sc2 is the only game I'm using it for. I would like to stream in atleast 720p on high graphic settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Upgrade when my parts don't do what I want them to any longer, tend to be not very often.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, haven't really tried it and don't feel comfortable doing it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I already have OS.

My current setup is:
Decent chassi, some random am3 motherboard, AMD Phenom II X4 965 3,4GHz, some random 6gb memory, nvidia 280gtx, corsair 850W psu.

As it is right now, the processor just cant handle playing sc2 and streaming at the same time with decent fps. So the processor definitely needs to be replaced.
I have no clue wether the graphic card and psu Is sufficient for what I want to do. All I know is that I can play on settings I want in sc2 without lag as long as I don't stream at the moment.

Also, I would really like to have a SSD disc.
(No need for entire system as I'm going to use the parts that I can from my current setup)
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:57:03
August 29 2011 18:39 GMT
#10423
On August 30 2011 03:19 ilimor wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 1000$ could go a bit higher if necessary (or lower if possible)

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 (+ 1920x1080 secondary screen)

What are you using it for?
Sc2 is the only game I'm using it for. I would like to stream in atleast 720p on high graphic settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Upgrade when my parts don't do what I want them to any longer, tend to be not very often.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, haven't really tried it and don't feel comfortable doing it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I already have OS.

My current setup is:
Decent chassi, some random am3 motherboard, AMD Phenom II X4 965 3,4GHz, some random 6gb memory, nvidia 280gtx, corsair 850W psu.

As it is right now, the processor just cant handle playing sc2 and streaming at the same time with decent fps. So the processor definitely needs to be replaced.
I have no clue wether the graphic card and psu Is sufficient for what I want to do. All I know is that I can play on settings I want in sc2 without lag as long as I don't stream at the moment.

Also, I would really like to have a SSD disc.
(No need for entire system as I'm going to use the parts that I can from my current setup)


If you want to stream in 1080p (with decent framerate) you'll want to overclock, but an i7-2600 (non-overclocked) should be able to handle sc2 and 720p streaming very well. An i5-2500 can handle it aswell (lower quality, but still watchable)

If you want an SSD, and not overclock, you'll want to use an H67 motherboard

As for video cards, streaming and sc2 framerate is almost completly dependant on your CPU. Being said, if you're planning on streaming in 720p, you probably want eye-candy graphics, so i'd reccommend something like a 560ti, or a 6950/6970 (pretty sure you can flash a 6950 to run like a 6970)

I can't recommend specific parts until I know where you want to order from


SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:55:02
August 29 2011 18:50 GMT
#10424
On August 30 2011 03:19 ilimor wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 1000$ could go a bit higher if necessary (or lower if possible)

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 (+ 1920x1080 secondary screen)

What are you using it for?
Sc2 is the only game I'm using it for. I would like to stream in atleast 720p on high graphic settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Upgrade when my parts don't do what I want them to any longer, tend to be not very often.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, haven't really tried it and don't feel comfortable doing it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I already have OS.

My current setup is:
Decent chassi, some random am3 motherboard, AMD Phenom II X4 965 3,4GHz, some random 6gb memory, nvidia 280gtx, corsair 850W psu.

As it is right now, the processor just cant handle playing sc2 and streaming at the same time with decent fps. So the processor definitely needs to be replaced.
I have no clue wether the graphic card and psu Is sufficient for what I want to do. All I know is that I can play on settings I want in sc2 without lag as long as I don't stream at the moment.

Also, I would really like to have a SSD disc.
(No need for entire system as I'm going to use the parts that I can from my current setup)


Overclock your GPU and you should be able to get by without buying a new one if you just want high settings for only SC2, maybe throw a few down to medium. You should be fine with just upgrading your CPU/Mobo if you want to stay on a budget, but it couldn't hurt to get a better graphics card. Why in the world do you have an 850W PSU though...!

Overclocking is super easy on the newer intel boards and greatly increases performance but is also like ~$75 more expensive. If you don't want to go that route I'd suggest either an i5 2400 or i5 2500, I believe you should be able to stream 720p with it, but I wouldn't go higher. If you want to be safe you'll need to overclock.

In retrospect, looking at your specs again you might want to get a new GPU as well.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 29 2011 20:30 GMT
#10425
On August 28 2011 21:51 spybreak wrote:
Since I know there is a good amount of us that followed Skyr's setup: i5200k, asrockpro p67, CM Hyper plus 212, 8 gigs at 1333 speed. I am curious as to what is your highest Overclock that is stable and what the settings did you guys used. I think I got it stabled at 4.4 after 2 hours of prime95 but I'll just leave that running for 4 hours or so.


Replace the P8P67 with a Gigabyte P67 UD4, and...

4.5 Ghz at just under 1.3V (fluctuates from 1.284 to 1.296 according to CPU-Z). Been running basically 24/7 since February.
entrust
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 21:49:06
August 29 2011 21:03 GMT
#10426
What is your budget?
My budged is 1000-1200+ without counting the monitor, but I'll need one also, just not sure how much I want to spend on it. I need a decent one.

What is your resolution?
Dunno I need 21+ inches one.

What are you using it for?
I use for gaming and making music.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I'm switching back to Windows from Mac, so don't really know. Depends how much money I'll have in future.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Honestly I have no clue what overclocking is. Need to run google for this one.

Do you need an Operating System?
I do. But don't count it.

My current setup is:
I'm computer-less right now, so there is no setup for me. How tragic.

I also need Firewire port. I was looking for build from scratch PC and all in one also. I just really have no idea what's good right now.
RadBrad64
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom6 Posts
August 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#10427
Thank you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pharax
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada62 Posts
August 29 2011 21:38 GMT
#10428
Dumb question but, when I request an online pricematch, do I request it using the price after the mail in rebate, or before?
Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#10429
On August 30 2011 06:38 Pharax wrote:
Dumb question but, when I request an online pricematch, do I request it using the price after the mail in rebate, or before?


Before. Mail in rebates are not included in the total. Mail in rebates is something you mail in to get a cheque or prepaid credit card sent to you months later in the mail.
Pharax
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada62 Posts
August 29 2011 21:54 GMT
#10430
Also, it gave me this :

Competitor's price: $109.69, source url: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR4284
The Price Match you submitted has a difference of 20% or more. This may be because the price you are trying to match is in US dollars. We will review the Price Match and let you know if it's valid. Please read our Price Match terms & conditions for details

will they send an email? how do I see if it is accepted or not, in the cart itself.
Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 29 2011 22:11 GMT
#10431
Direct Canada is a sister company of theirs so it's not likely they will reject a pricematch from them. They'll send you an email or you can just check the status of the order on the website itself. They will either accept it and continue with processing your order or reject it and give you a reason / their best offer.
Pharax
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada62 Posts
August 29 2011 22:15 GMT
#10432
Good thank you. Lastly, do you think it is worth it to spend 16 bucks on their so called very recommanded full coverage shipping insurance. or is it just to scare us and make more money?
Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 29 2011 22:35 GMT
#10433
Full insurance is 3% of total. This includes advance RMA. Shipping isurance is 1.5% of total.
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 00:24:02
August 30 2011 00:23 GMT
#10434
I am just building my computer, dual ASUS 560 Ti and a Thermaltake 850W power supply. My question is how do I power the cards. there is two 6-pin connectors on each one. Can i use only one 6-pin on each? If I do that I will use the built in 6-pin+2 cable from the PSU and then use the 6-pin connector supplied by thermaltake. Anyone have some insight?
Winning!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 30 2011 00:34 GMT
#10435
Cards must have all PCIe connectors plugged in for them to function so if you have two GTX 560 Ti which requires two 6pin PCIe connectors. You need all four 6pin connectors plugged in. A 850w power supply should provide four 6+2pin connectors though so there shouldn't be a need for adapters.
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
August 30 2011 00:45 GMT
#10436
Weird. Built in it has 1 6-pin and 1 6-pin+2. Supplied with the PSU is 1 more 6-pin+2 that I have plugged in the back. So guess i have to go buy one more...
Winning!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 30 2011 00:45 GMT
#10437
If your 850w PSU doesn't have 4 PCIe connectors, I'd be paranoid about using it for an SLI setup, anything above 650w should, and even the newer ones of those really ought to. That being said, adapters work fine with a decent PSU.
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
August 30 2011 00:48 GMT
#10438
On August 30 2011 09:45 JingleHell wrote:
If your 850w PSU doesn't have 4 PCIe connectors, I'd be paranoid about using it for an SLI setup, anything above 650w should, and even the newer ones of those really ought to. That being said, adapters work fine with a decent PSU.



Here it is, I am assuming they just forgot one cable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153106
Winning!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#10439
Your power supply is modular so just call them and ask for one.
reebuns
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia10 Posts
August 30 2011 02:48 GMT
#10440
What is your budget?
My budget is around $1000 for the tower. Peripherals are not needed.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 x2 screens (No crossfire or SLI or any of that jazz, just a second monitor for more real estate)

What are you using it for?
I hope to play sc2 and stream at a decent quality (480p at least) as well as play any new games that come out in the future on decent settings. Ultra quality isn't my thing; medium to high is.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I tend to upgrade in bulk, like now. Neccessities like dead ram or things like that are usually right away but upgrades on big parts (cpu, gpu) are usually 3-4 years.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

My current setup is:
Dual Core E8500 3.16ghz, Nvidia 9600 GT.

I've been fooling around trying to optimize my build with my budget.

http://imgur.com/25W6M
(This is all Australian dollars and off an Australian site :D)

What I'm unsure of is a nice graphics card to finish it all without bottlenecking the CPU and I'm a little unsure if the P8P67 motherboard is the best. Im also at a loss for a nice case to house everything without forking out a huge amount of money.

http://www.pccasegear.com/ is the site I used to create the list above.
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