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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Pharax
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada62 Posts
August 28 2011 13:41 GMT
#10361
Might sound like a stupid question, but what do you guys think of the special shipping protection (3% of total order cost) that NCIX offers
Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much!
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 14:12:12
August 28 2011 14:06 GMT
#10362
Revised Build:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102949

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131713

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147124

Thanks to all. Any issues with compatibility? The subtotal is 991.91 USD
TT10
Profile Joined August 2011
7 Posts
August 28 2011 14:07 GMT
#10363
On August 28 2011 19:16 Rachnar wrote:
@TT10

cpu + ram combo 115$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.695726

mobo 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313

antec 300 illusion 60$ -15$ of instant rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

corsair cx430 v2 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

dvd burner + 500 gb 7200 rpm hdd 53.5$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696167

gtx460 1gb 150$, 120$ after mail in rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326

for pure gaming this will be plenty enough, you can step down to a gts450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134119
if you wish toi save a bit more money, but wont max bf3 i guess, the gtx460 my guess is will at such a resolution



ok all thanks for the help, and ya i kinda thought that monitor would be the death of me, BUT I have a friend who is selling me his old one for $20 so now I no longer need a monitor
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 14:46:20
August 28 2011 14:43 GMT
#10364
On August 28 2011 23:06 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Revised Build:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102949

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131713

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147124

Thanks to all. Any issues with compatibility? The subtotal is 991.91 USD


take this istead of the samsung id say
http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-m4-ct128m4ssd2-m4-2-5-128gb-sata-iii-mlc-internal-solid-state/q/loc/101/221150373.html
you can take advantage of the sata 3 and also there is a coupon for anouther 10$ off.

edit: buy one and ship it to montreal for free for me since i showed u such an awsome sale
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 28 2011 14:48 GMT
#10365
Why? I don't need 128 GB and I don't know why crucial SSDs would be better in other ways.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 28 2011 14:53 GMT
#10366
I think I'm going to go with crucial's 64 GB of the sa me series; it takes advantage of Sata III but costs less, and I won't concern myself with price/performance ratio for the 128 GB because I don't need 128 GB.
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
August 28 2011 14:57 GMT
#10367
On August 28 2011 23:48 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Why? I don't need 128 GB and I don't know why crucial SSDs would be better in other ways.


cause its only ~30$ more for a SSD thats not 1 year old, ~x2 the size, ~2x the random write speed speed, 30% better random read speeds.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 28 2011 14:58 GMT
#10368
On August 28 2011 23:07 TT10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:16 Rachnar wrote:
@TT10

cpu + ram combo 115$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.695726

mobo 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313

antec 300 illusion 60$ -15$ of instant rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

corsair cx430 v2 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

dvd burner + 500 gb 7200 rpm hdd 53.5$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696167

gtx460 1gb 150$, 120$ after mail in rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326

for pure gaming this will be plenty enough, you can step down to a gts450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134119
if you wish toi save a bit more money, but wont max bf3 i guess, the gtx460 my guess is will at such a resolution



ok all thanks for the help, and ya i kinda thought that monitor would be the death of me, BUT I have a friend who is selling me his old one for $20 so now I no longer need a monitor


what resolution ?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:44:43
August 28 2011 16:35 GMT
#10369
On August 28 2011 19:02 edzwoo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Quick bump for my friend:

On August 25 2011 17:33 Jas0n wrote:
Requesting a build/upgrade. I don't know too much about computers, my friend helped me build my current one. Would want something that allows me to run games like Witcher 2 on max settings or near max settings on 2048 x 1152.

Currently using

E8400
9800 GT
2 x 2GB DDR2
Antec Earthwatts EA500
Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
ATX mid tower case,

What is your budget?
Would prefer to spend around $1k but can go higher if extra performance is worth the money.

What is your resolution?
2048 x 1152

What are you using it for?
Gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
As Soon As Possible

Do you plan on overclocking?
Don't know anything about overclocking but yes, if possible. Have roommates that can help.

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, if you guys think it's worth the money

Where are you buying your parts from?
Everything Online, U.S.

Would also like a 60 GB SSD if someone can recommend one

Thanks a lot for your help



Not sure what you're looking for. A new build or just upgrade components? You can keep your current case, power supply, dvd drive, HDD if you'd like but here's a full configuration anyways.

Configuration that totals to $955 before mail in rebates, capable of playing current and upcoming games on near max settings at 2048x1152. CrossfireX / SLI is not worth the money for the record unless you are planning to game across three monitors (Eyefinity). You'll need an additional SATA cable for the SSD.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB @ $240 ($220 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
+ Show Spoiler +
There's this for $38 if you are purchasing before the 31st: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
+ Show Spoiler +
or if you just need it for storage than the Samsung Spinpoint F4 1.5TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287

Crucial M4 64gb @ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

Antec High Current Gamer 520 @ $59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118040




On August 28 2011 13:03 SpankyYo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys, I am looking to build a computer and was hoping someone could suggest a build for me. I have some parts in mind but I would like to compare what I have to what someone who has more knowledge than I do would pick.

What is your budget?
My budget is $1200 max(including a monitor). I would love to go cheaper than that though if possible.

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117 I am looking at this monitor right now.

What are you using it for?
Gaming mainly. I would like to run basically any game at max settings without a problem. Don't know if that's possible with my budget though.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I hope to not be upgrading for a very long time.

When do you plan on building it?
September

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
Yes. Windows 7 obviously.

Do you plan to add a second gpu?
No. I am hoping to just get a single gpu and the cheapest one possible that will still perform very well.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I am hoping to buy my parts from newegg.com but if there are better deals elsewhere, that's where I'll go.

Other info: Case appearance doesn't matter to me at all. I want the best parts for best price obviously. Like I said earlier, I want to be able to run games smoothly at max settings. I appreciate any help with this immensely.


Pointless to ask multiple times and not build until September but since I'm already doing this, here:

Just a modification of the above build, totals to $954 before mail in rebates, leaves you with roughly $250 for a monitor. You can remove the SSD if you want to lower the total.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB @ $240 ($220 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
+ Show Spoiler +
or if you just need it for storage than the Samsung Spinpoint F4 1.5TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287

Crucial M4 64gb @ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

Antec High Current Gamer 520 @ $59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118040

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $92
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986



On August 28 2011 13:18 dense12 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

$900 USD

What is your resolution?
1600x900
What are you using it for?
Gaming,gaming,gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
3+ years at a time.

When do you plan on building it?
Within 2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not really. I'm not educated enough on it to feel safe doing it honestly.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nah, one good single card is alright for now. Unless, it's a better idea to front the money now with my upgrade cycle the way it is now.

Where are you buying your parts from?
USA. So newegg or equivalent

Extra:
Case is needed. No need for fancy lights or whatever. But I want it to look nice

Thanks in advance


Another modification of the previously listed builds, totals to $663 before mail in rebates. Not much you can do with a $900 budget if you don't need an operating system, aren't willing to overclock, and not playing at 1080p. You can pick a different case other than the HAF 912 if it doesn't appeal to you, any mid-tower ATX case will work.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($140 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Antec High Current Gamer 400 @ $55 ($40 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118040



On August 28 2011 22:41 Pharax wrote:
Might sound like a stupid question, but what do you guys think of the special shipping protection (3% of total order cost) that NCIX offers


Subjective. If you want the convience of Advanced RMA incase of any DOA parts that you may get upon receiving the delivery than pay for it. If you have the patience of RMAing DOA parts than just pay 1.5%.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:54:43
August 28 2011 16:43 GMT
#10370
On August 28 2011 20:49 seve wrote:
Mhm..., maybe he could get a friend to build it.
Could you also suggest a build for this possibility?

Also, what do you think of this prebuild PC compared to the one you posted (With network adapter the costs are the same): http://www.tec-direkt.de/PC-Systeme/AMD-Systeme/AMD-PhenomII-X4-940-ULTRA.html

Thanks a lot for your help!


CPU: I5 2400
Mobo: Asrock H61m-S
Ram: G.skill 1333mhz CL9
Case: Xigmatek Asgard II
PSU: Super Flower Amazon 450W
HDD: Spinpoint f3 1tb
GPU: XFX 6950 1gb
Optical drive: Liteon dvd/rw

568,14 euro

Leaves you some money to get a better case, mobo or that network adapter. you could allso downgrade de GPU to a 6870 if you need that extra 50 euro.
TT10
Profile Joined August 2011
7 Posts
August 28 2011 17:28 GMT
#10371
On August 28 2011 23:58 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 23:07 TT10 wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:16 Rachnar wrote:
@TT10

cpu + ram combo 115$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.695726

mobo 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313

antec 300 illusion 60$ -15$ of instant rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

corsair cx430 v2 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

dvd burner + 500 gb 7200 rpm hdd 53.5$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696167

gtx460 1gb 150$, 120$ after mail in rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326

for pure gaming this will be plenty enough, you can step down to a gts450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134119
if you wish toi save a bit more money, but wont max bf3 i guess, the gtx460 my guess is will at such a resolution



ok all thanks for the help, and ya i kinda thought that monitor would be the death of me, BUT I have a friend who is selling me his old one for $20 so now I no longer need a monitor


what resolution ?


1366x768
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 28 2011 17:31 GMT
#10372
Is this correct? I remember someone (I think Jingle) saying that when you overclock, it is the vCore that puts stress on, or if I put it in exaggerating terms, "damaging" the CPU, not the Core Speed.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#10373
with that resolution yeah the gtx460 will max out anything without any problem
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2011 18:13 GMT
#10374
On August 29 2011 02:31 epikAnglory wrote:
Is this correct? I remember someone (I think Jingle) saying that when you overclock, it is the vCore that puts stress on, or if I put it in exaggerating terms, "damaging" the CPU, not the Core Speed.


Well, I don't know of any serious heavy studies done on it, particularly at reasonable OC's, probably due to a combination of obsolescence and individual chip variance. But at reasonable numbers, voltage is what increases heat more than clock, and heat is what causes the most basic degradation.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#10375
Power is voltage squared over resistance, at least for resistive elements (which CPUs are not). As a very very crude estimate, power consumption when the CPU is maxed out should be proportional to voltage squared and proportional to the clock speed.

Excessive voltage is bad in of itself, even without increased temperatures. There are some papers on the subject of degradation and for various types of transistors, some of which are similar to those found in CPUs, that show the dependence on both temperature and voltage. Increase one or both and you increase the potential effects of hot-carrier injection, bias temperature instability, and oxide breakdown. Intuitively this should make sense: increase the energy and more charge carriers will escape to bad places and cause problems.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 18:54:48
August 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#10376
On August 29 2011 02:31 epikAnglory wrote:
Is this correct? I remember someone (I think Jingle) saying that when you overclock, it is the vCore that puts stress on, or if I put it in exaggerating terms, "damaging" the CPU, not the Core Speed.


normally you cant do anything bad with overclocking alone. a too high clock will result in a bluescreen but nothing more.

the voltage is what really drives temperatures up and can possibly damage the processor.



so in short, feel free to play around with clocks (but use proper tools like k10stat) but be careful when overvolting (undervolting again usually results in a bluescreen).
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
August 28 2011 22:43 GMT
#10377
I'll post here since I'm guessing it's better than starting my own thread. I don't care about overclocking, and I only play SC2 (don't even really care about playing it on high, just that is plays smoothly on low 4v4). This is more of a general use computer that happens to play SC2 but will be doing some Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign work. I already have some parts. I just need some help filling out the rest. I'm giving a strict hard cap of $400 for the rest of the parts, but I would greatly prefer the rest being under $350.

Already have:
case - Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
psu - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
optical - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Need to buy:
cpu -
motherboard -
ram -
gfx -
hd -
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 22:46:28
August 28 2011 22:44 GMT
#10378
Would you guys say it is better to buy monitors in store to avoid dead pixels and faulty monitors or take a risk and buy online?

Of course buying online is not actually a 'risk', but you will have to wait a while before they send you a replacement screen which can be annoying.

I'm eyeing this screen http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 right now but I don't know what makes it better than other similar models. What should I be looking for?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2011 22:55 GMT
#10379
On August 29 2011 07:44 Divergence wrote:
Would you guys say it is better to buy monitors in store to avoid dead pixels and faulty monitors or take a risk and buy online?

Of course buying online is not actually a 'risk', but you will have to wait a while before they send you a replacement screen which can be annoying.

I'm eyeing this screen http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 right now but I don't know what makes it better than other similar models. What should I be looking for?


My reasoning would be to make sure the thing looks good by seeing it at a store first. After that, I have nothing against ordering the model online if it's cheaper by enough to justify the wait.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
August 28 2011 23:48 GMT
#10380
On August 29 2011 07:43 lac29 wrote:
I'll post here since I'm guessing it's better than starting my own thread. I don't care about overclocking, and I only play SC2 (don't even really care about playing it on high, just that is plays smoothly on low 4v4). This is more of a general use computer that happens to play SC2 but will be doing some Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign work. I already have some parts. I just need some help filling out the rest. I'm giving a strict hard cap of $400 for the rest of the parts, but I would greatly prefer the rest being under $350.

Already have:
case - Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
psu - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
optical - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Need to buy:
cpu -
motherboard -
ram -
gfx -
hd -

this shloud be handle 4v4 in medium and smoothly

Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 $125

ASRock H61M-VS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $60

XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540 $120 ($20 MIR)

G.SKILL Value Series 4GB DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421 $23

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 $45

total $373

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