• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:18
CET 10:18
KST 18:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine R I P Patrick Stewart European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8441 users

Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 1262

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1260 1261 1262 1263 1264 1626 Next
When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Kolya504
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 07:09:36
October 27 2012 07:08 GMT
#25221
Whoa, didn't realize I could do it for $500. Thanks much!

Questions:

-Matlab can use 4 cores if you are good at coding for that, but I'm going pretty light on the Matlab department (if it gets serious I would remote into the office server). Does the i5 3450 offer a significant jump vs the i3 3220, either in SC2, daily tasks, or RTS games in the pipeline?

-Would I regret recycling a 2.5'' laptop hdd (5400 RPM)?

-Are the non gpu/cpu components (mobo / case / psu / hdd etc) being recommended for any particular reason, or just cost-effectiveness? I am taking a licensing exam on Dec.1 and am planning to build this afterward, so I might delay buying till Black Friday - just want to know if I should look for these things specifically or if similar components substitute.

Thanks again!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 27 2012 08:21 GMT
#25222
1) Very likely, especially if it can harness multiple cores properly. Even if you can't harness all cores, the i5 has turbo boost while the i3 doesn't.
2) As a boot drive it'll be slow but it won't be the end of the world. If money is very tight, there isn't anything wrong with using a laptop HDD.
3) Those parts are being recommended because they're decent enough and cheap. If you aren't able to put the system together now, then wait till Black Friday where you're probably find better hardware for cheaper. Of course provided the hardware isn't sold out.
Kolya504
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
October 27 2012 15:11 GMT
#25223
Okay. Thanks to both of you for your help.

I could buy it all now, but due to schedule issues I probably wont be able to put it together for a few weeks, so I might as well wait till Black Friday.

I think I will go with the i5 3570k - apparently if I buy the 3570k from microcenter ($30 more over i5 3450) and then just buy a B75 mobo (-$40 off) it is a wash cost wise, and I end up with 300 mhz more base clock. I can ponder stepping up to the z77 chipset in between now and then.

One more question - the B75 apparently supports overclocking the "base clock" - what exactly does that translate to in terms of performance gain, and should I get a stock cooler if I did that?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 27 2012 15:37 GMT
#25224
Long story short, for all practical purposes the B75 motherboards cannot overclock (no significant performance gain/somewhat difficult). You need a z75/z77 motherboard for overclocking.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
October 27 2012 17:27 GMT
#25225
You don't use baseclock to overclock sandy/ivybridge. That's just them being obscure.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Kolya504
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
October 27 2012 18:11 GMT
#25226
Ah kk. Thanks for the info!
Avaroth
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Finland44 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 01:22:03
October 28 2012 07:46 GMT
#25227
Alright so here’s my situation. I’m Finnish but I’m currently in China doing an internship until the end of the year. Right now I’m using a shitty laptop that barely runs SC2. My desktop back in Finland is very old as well.

I might stay in China for another year after the internship in which case I’ll build the PC here and figure out some way to get the whole thing or at least the main parts back to Finland when I return. If I end up not staying I’m probably still gonna look around here and try to find cheap parts to bring back and build the PC back in Finland.

What is your budget?
800-900 EUR give or take. Can go a bit higher if needed especially if I find a good SSD.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Gaming and streaming. I don’t care too much about totally maxing out the latest games, as long as they run nicely on high (not ultra) that’s fine for me.

I want to be able to stream SC2 and possibly LoL at a very high quality (Ultra settings, 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps) without hurting performance even in lategame. For this I have 2 scenarios that I would like advice on.

Scenario 1) If I stay in China, I won’t be streaming during 2013 but I will want to stream when I return to Finland in 2014. In this case would it make more sense/be cheaper to buy a mid-range CPU now for just playing and no streaming and then upgrade to a CPU capable of high quality streaming at the end of 2013? Or should I just go ahead and buy a powerful enough CPU now? I have no idea what kind of new models and price cuts are expected for 2013.

Scenario 2) I return to Finland and buy a high-end CPU for streaming right away.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Long. 3+ years.

When do you plan on building it?
In the next month or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?
If you can recommend a setup for relatively easy and cost efficient overclocking, then yes. But in any case nothing hardcore.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
China or Finland. If anyone can recommend a Chinese company/website specialized in computer stuff, that would be totally awesome.

Thanks.

Edit: Mistake in resolution.
My garden is well. How is yours?
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 09:16:01
October 28 2012 08:56 GMT
#25228
I have an intel i7 3820

I know it is a locked cpu and you can only change the multiplier to 43 (it comes set at 36). I know you can do other things like changing the bus speed or something to get it higher but i can i just change the multiplier to 43 as a lazy mans overclock if you know what i mean. Dont want to fiddle with the setting to much.

edit

added a pic
[image loading]
♠ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ♠ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♠ (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ♠
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 12:38:15
October 28 2012 12:36 GMT
#25229
Can someone give me systematic instructions on formatting my current 500gb hdd w/ win7, so I can use that as just extra storage to complement my new ssd with win8? I backed up my old hard drive, but is there more that I should do? Probably a really basic question, but I tend to be paranoid when messing with hard drives in general.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 28 2012 12:41 GMT
#25230
Disk Management, right click desired drive, click Format.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
October 28 2012 12:50 GMT
#25231
On October 28 2012 21:41 skyR wrote:
Disk Management, right click desired drive, click Format.


Thanks. I feel silly, but at least I know for certain now
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
formless
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada3 Posts
October 28 2012 15:27 GMT
#25232
On October 21 2012 15:02 Myrmidon wrote:
This may be pretty overkill. I don't think an upgrade would be necessary next year for anything.

Core i5-3550 - $210
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70542

Gigabyte B75M-D3H - $65
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1295

G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz - $35
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1295

MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition - $265 (price ends today?)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75201&promoid=1382

Crucial M4 128GB - $105
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1295

Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm - $60
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75817&promoid=1295

Samsung CD / DVD burner - $15
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76258&promoid=1382

XFX Pro 550W - $60 (no good PSU deals... or just get the 450W version and use the molex adapter that comes with the graphics card)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1295

BitFenix Shinobi - $60
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1295

Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $98
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1295


thanks for the build ordered the ram gpu dvd psu and case last Sunday they shipped everything but the case so far
IMjesus
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada1 Post
October 28 2012 17:06 GMT
#25233
Hey looking to build new computer, hoping you guys can give me a build :D
What is your budget?
Looking to stay under $1000

What is your resolution?
My monitor is 1920x1080 but I am getting new one soon probably and I think most are 1920x1080.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, going for being able to play sc2/hots on ultra and stream 720 or 1080p w/e my bandwidth would allow.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably won't build another computer for 2 or 3 years depending how fast it gets outdated but I don't care about playing the latest and greatest games.

When do you plan on building it?
Before December.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not sure, if overclocking would help then sure.

Do you need an Operating System?
Looking to get windows 8.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless it's really worth it?

Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in toronto so I can buy from any stores around here, or any online stores like newegg.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
October 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#25234
Hey guys... just like to post something that I don't think I've seen shown on TL. I've seen a lot of people buying/recommending microcenter if you have one nearby; is anybody aware that NCIX (us) will pricematch Microcenter's CPUs? That way you can get free shipping from NCIX @ Microcenter's prices.

It seems like something obvious to me, so sorry if it's common knowledge, but I don't -believe- that I've seen anybody ever mention it, and I have definitely seen a lot of CPUs recommended off of Newegg. Just thought I'd share

(For the record, I've price matched a friend's 2500K, and my i3-3220)
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 29 2012 02:11 GMT
#25235
NCIX doesn't price match special in-store prices.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 02:18:52
October 29 2012 02:16 GMT
#25236
Yes they do >.< I've done it.

It's been approved. Just showing it again... I know that they -say- they don't (at least in the terms I think) but I do know that they definitely let me pay microcenter's prices

For some reason it won't show the whole picture. I think it's because of the resolution/width. Anyways, link:

Picture... Pricematch approved
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 29 2012 02:24 GMT
#25237
That's not pricematch approved, that's just your shopping cart.

They've approved in the past when they first launched in the US but that's probably only due to the fact of inadequately trained employees. Chances these days of getting it pricematched is very slim...
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 02:33:44
October 29 2012 02:29 GMT
#25238
Here: I doubt the checkout summary is going to change after I fill out my debit card info

If I need to pull up the invoice after I buy it (granted without the pentium) and post that I can

I know they shouldn't do it (I think), but it's always worked for me.

Edit: fwiw, if the price match isn't approved, I believe that the blue text in the picture of "your total" is normally red.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 02:36:11
October 29 2012 02:33 GMT
#25239
Did you just place this order today?

Going through the checkout process does not equate to getting a pricematch approved. You get an email whether the price match was approved or denied before an invoice is generated and your card is charged.

Pricematch approvals aren't done in real time.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 02:38:41
October 29 2012 02:35 GMT
#25240
On October 29 2012 11:33 skyR wrote:
Did you just place this order today?

Going through the checkout process does not equate to getting a pricematch approved. You get an email whether the price match was approved or denied before an invoice is generated and your card is charged.


I haven't placed *this* order but I have had a 2500k approved at Microcenter's prices, and a friend bought another i5 a while ago, but I do admit I don't remember when that was. The 2500K was like... six months ago? Probably just a bit before ivy bridge came out.

I should be placing it in a couple of days if not tonight/tomorrow though. I can get back to y'all whether or not it actually works now. I guess I can't testify to whether it works -now- but I do know that it's worked in 2012. I'll get back on whether this one works.

(Oh, I placed the pricematch last monday, not today).
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Prev 1 1260 1261 1262 1263 1264 1626 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5411
firebathero 855
Horang2 430
Light 229
Soma 183
Jaedong 174
actioN 136
Dewaltoss 117
HiyA 98
Sharp 49
[ Show more ]
Mong 32
ZergMaN 27
sSak 26
NaDa 26
soO 17
ProTech13
Noble 11
Free 5
Dota 2
Fuzer 83
Counter-Strike
allub462
Other Games
summit1g9357
olofmeister588
Livibee174
crisheroes50
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2494
League of Legends
• Stunt558
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 42m
Epic.LAN
3h 42m
Big Brain Bouts
7h 42m
OSC
12h 42m
Replay Cast
13h 42m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
Epic.LAN
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 6h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 8h
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.