EPT-Change the cpu and motherboard to i5-3570k and a z77 mobo and save ~200$
-The powersupply is from ~5 years back, so unless you are using it from a previous build, you might want to buy a newer model.
-do you really need 16gb of ram?
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Ata
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-Change the cpu and motherboard to i5-3570k and a z77 mobo and save ~200$ -The powersupply is from ~5 years back, so unless you are using it from a previous build, you might want to buy a newer model. -do you really need 16gb of ram? | ||
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jacosajh
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On October 24 2012 19:11 Medrea wrote: Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly Uh wtf? Decided to read through this thread backwards and ummm....? | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On October 26 2012 22:44 jacosajh wrote: Uh wtf? Decided to read through this thread backwards and ummm....? I knew I wasn't going to be the only one falling for it! It's a mnemonic about resistors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_color_code_mnemonics | ||
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Medrea
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Get Some Now! At the end. Ah the 20's | ||
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swift_knife
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On October 26 2012 21:54 Ata wrote: Hard to say without knowing the prices nor what the computer will be used for. So making my assumptions: -Change the cpu and motherboard to i5-3570k and a z77 mobo and save ~200$ -The powersupply is from ~5 years back, so unless you are using it from a previous build, you might want to buy a newer model. -do you really need 16gb of ram? Thanks for your input, could you recommend me a good power supply then? What makes this one so bad? | ||
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Scorevath
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http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor | ||
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skyR
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On October 27 2012 10:47 Alryk wrote: I asked a while ago and might have missed the response - what's the difference between H and B series? I know B is apparently for small businesses or whatever, but what's the difference? (other than the fact that it seems you can get B75 motherboards for much cheaper than H77). No IGP? B75 have less sata and expansion slots I think, | ||
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skyR
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
There was a B65 back in the day, but 6 series also had H61 to be the low-cost platform. Now the mobo manufacturers are just appropriating B75 for that task, since there's no H71 I guess. As skyR said, nothing most people would care about other than the SATA port | ||
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Alryk
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Kolya504
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Objective: Build a computer that will run 4v4 and silly things like Fastest Possible Map on Ultra. What is your budget? This might be frustrating to you - I don't have one; I can spend whatever it takes to meet my goal, but I don't want to pay a penny extra. What is your resolution? I have two 1600 x 1050 (720p) DVI monitors I'd like the PC to support. I want it to be able to run something at 1080p though in case I buy a nicer monitor down the road. What are you using it for? Starcraft, similar RTS-style games, light Matlab, office work. What is your upgrade cycle? This concept seems silly to me; it is hard to predict the future (especially when you're clueless like I am). When do you plan on building it? Between Black Friday and Christmas sounds like a good time. Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Do you need an Operating System? Fortunately no. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not a chance. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm a USA customer, near a Microcenter, but willing to cobble stuff together from anywhere. Thanks so much for your input! | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On October 27 2012 13:07 Kolya504 wrote: Hi ya'll, I'd like to build a computer but am clueless. I'd appreciate any input you might have - seriously. Objective: Build a computer that will run 4v4 and silly things like Fastest Possible Map on Ultra. What is your budget? This might be frustrating to you - I don't have one; I can spend whatever it takes to meet my goal, but I don't want to pay a penny extra. What is your resolution? I have two 1600 x 1050 (720p) DVI monitors I'd like the PC to support. I want it to be able to run something at 1080p though in case I buy a nicer monitor down the road. What are you using it for? Starcraft, similar RTS-style games, light Matlab, office work. What is your upgrade cycle? This concept seems silly to me; it is hard to predict the future (especially when you're clueless like I am). When do you plan on building it? Between Black Friday and Christmas sounds like a good time. Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Do you need an Operating System? Fortunately no. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not a chance. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm a USA customer, near a Microcenter, but willing to cobble stuff together from anywhere. Thanks so much for your input! Just a couple of notes for you to respond to. First, are you sure about not overclocking? SC2 is a CPU-bound game. Basically, the more units the slower it runs. Ultra graphics is easy as pie - it's the smooth 4v4s that are hard. Overclocking will help with 4v4 super-late-game. Also, do you play any other graphically intensive games? This question is tied to the "spend no more than you have to" directive. You can play SC2 on ultra with a cheap $80 GPU. But many other games will not run well on that. So some direction is desired (e.g. "great, I didn't realize I could get away with a cheap GPU" or "oh, I didn't realize SC2 was easy to run graphically compared to other games. I also want other games I might pick up later to look pretty"). | ||
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Kolya504
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Regarding your first question, I am willing to overclock (assuming my impression that I can do it in ten minutes by following some "overclocking for dummies" article is correct). The reason I said no earlier is that from what I have gathered from lurking in reddit/r/buildapc, overclocking requires a nicer mobo chipset, better cooler, extra $$$ for unlocked processor. From my (uneducated) perspective, it doesn't seem like it is a good price/performance ratio when all subsidiary costs are thrown in. However I know that I could be completely wrong on this point, so my real answer to the question is that I would definitely overclock if it made sense cost-wise. Second question - I don't currently own any other games that would be more intensive than SC2. I've never been interested in shooters or RPGs; so if/when I buy games in the future they'll probably be turn-based or RTS again. I know that if I buy an RTS game two years from now my PC will not run it at max settings - I would want it to be playable though. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
So here's a recommended parts list, focusing on functional but cheap - no luxuries like sound-dampening cases or whatnot. CPU (option a) - i5-3750k ($170 @ Microcenter) Mobo (option a) - Gigabyte z77-ds3h ($60-$110 @ Microcenter, I think this is a -$50 in-store deal) CPU cooler (option a) - Coolermaster 212+ ($20) http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor http://www.microcenter.com/product/388327/GA-Z77-DS3H_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR-B10-212P-G1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1296 CPU (option b) - i5-3450 ($140 @ Microcenter) I'm assuming here matlab can benefit from 4 cores. Otherwise an i3-3220 would be fine. Mobo (option b) - Asus B75 ($65, if you can get -$50 on a cheap B75 or H77 mobo in Microcentet, that works too) http://www.microcenter.com/product/388579/Core_i5_3450_31GHz_LGA_1155_Processor http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=71808&vpn=P8B75-M LE&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1296 Ram - Geil 2x4gb 1333mhz ($30 after promo code) Video Card - MSI 7770 ($130, $100 after rebate) Case - Bit Fenix Merc Alpha ($37) PSU - Antec Neo Eco 450c ($37) HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200rpm ($55, double the size is available for $70) SSD - this luxury removed in favor of cost-control DVD-burner - ($15) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144543&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4003003&SID=r4i85d46nrab http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127664 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&vpn=BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1296 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1296 Tower, overclocking option: $554 (-$30 rebate, +sales tax) Tower, non-overclocking option: $509 (-$30 rebate, +sales tax) You could go a tad cheaper on GPU. But if you take the rebate into account, this is a very good option for maxing graphics for SC2 while still retaining a bit of extra power for future games you might play. | ||
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