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thank you again,
but to keep this open...
i guess it would not hurt to spend about 10 bucks more to have a mobo in ATX format with a few more PCI slots? the mobo you suggested doesn't have any space for extra cards.
yeah, sure, if you'll use those spots, it's worth it
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 20 2012 02:24 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 01:34 Darks0le wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hi all, I just went to university away from my home country and want to build a new PC here in Scotland. I thought it'd be sinch, but I actually found myself at a loss after about a week of searching, so I realized you are my only hope, my Obi Wan team if you will.
What is your budget? I have a limit of £550 which is about $870 for the PC itself
What is your resolution? I am buying a new monitor as well and it is most probably going to be 1680 × 1050 or 1920x1080 depending on what I find.
What are you using it for? I need it pretty much for gaming purposes only. I play DotA 2, Diablo 3, the occasional Starcraft II and experiment with various MMORPGs.
What is your upgrade cycle? Around 4 years
When do you plan on building it? Considering I need a PC for uni, I guess I have to start building it as soon as possible.
Do you plan on overclocking? At least not in the first 12-18 months
Do you need an Operating System? No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Same as overclocking, so 12-18 months later at the earliest.
Where are you buying your parts from? I am not at all knowledgable of the pc market around here as I arrived very recently.
I appreciate any advice given, so thanks beforehand.
Your budget is not terribly large, so we won't be getting a large monitor or anything like that (although it should be quality). Here's what I recommend (I didn't check all the UK sites, but these seemed to work out): Core Components: 153 pounds Pentium g2120 - 72 MSI B75 matx mobo - 48 2x4gb 1333mhz RAM- 33 + Show Spoiler +Video Card: 91 pounds Gigabyte 7770 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-gigabyte-gv-r777oc-1gd-rev20-hd7770-atx-graphics-cardMonitor: 111 pounds Asus VS229H http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VS229H-Widescreen-Monitor-Headphone/dp/B005HIRFYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348074094&sr=8-1Edit: When in doubt on monitors, take WomWomWom's advice. (See below.) Supporting Components: 133 pounds Bit Fenix Merc Beta Case - 33 XFX Core 450w PSU - 37 (this may be out of stock when you order, you can try ebuyer.com for it as well) Hitachi 500gb HDD - 50 DVD-burner -13 + Show Spoiler +Peripherals (I assumed you didn't have these): 53 pounds Mionix Naos 3200 - 37 For right handers, one of the best comfy-ergonomic & gaming mice out there. Worth the $. Cheapo Logitech speakers - 9 Cheapo Microsoft keyboard - 7 + Show Spoiler +Total: 541 pounds, including tax, NOT including shipping. If it turns out you didn't need peripherals, you could upgrade the processor to an i3-3220 (20 more pounds) Another potential cost: USB wireless adapter if you are going to be connecting to a wireless router, ethernet cord if you're going to be using a wired connection. The CPU cannot be overclocked, so no need to consider that. Also, SLI/Crossfire is way outside your budget. You can, however, overclock the 7770 somewhat if you desire to.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it and I am sorry, but I guess I was not clear in my message that my budget was £550, I actually recalculated and was able to push it to £650 for the PC only, all peripherals like mouse, keyboard, headset, pad I've brought from home and the monitor is on a different budget. Again, I am sorry for being unclear
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Hello everyone! I need some advice... About a month ago, my laptop was stolen out of my car. It was a Dell Inspiron E1405. I used it mainly for Photoshop and SC2, but could only play SC2 on the lowest settings due to a crappy integrated graphics card. I was looking at Newegg at their cheap refurbished desktops, because not having a computer sucks pretty bad.
So my main question is what is the cheapest of these refurbished desktops could I buy and still have a comparable machine? I don't really know much about the specs for computers >.> I'm trying to hold on until I can save up for a build, but that most likely will be around mid-winter and I'm dying.
This is the main one I'm looking at right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883157058
(Also haven't gotten to play D3 yet because my laptop couldn't run it so if I end up with something cheap that can even on the lowest settings, would be cool but not necessary.)
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On September 20 2012 19:22 Darks0le wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 20 2012 02:24 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 01:34 Darks0le wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hi all, I just went to university away from my home country and want to build a new PC here in Scotland. I thought it'd be sinch, but I actually found myself at a loss after about a week of searching, so I realized you are my only hope, my Obi Wan team if you will.
What is your budget? I have a limit of £550 which is about $870 for the PC itself
What is your resolution? I am buying a new monitor as well and it is most probably going to be 1680 × 1050 or 1920x1080 depending on what I find.
What are you using it for? I need it pretty much for gaming purposes only. I play DotA 2, Diablo 3, the occasional Starcraft II and experiment with various MMORPGs.
What is your upgrade cycle? Around 4 years
When do you plan on building it? Considering I need a PC for uni, I guess I have to start building it as soon as possible.
Do you plan on overclocking? At least not in the first 12-18 months
Do you need an Operating System? No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Same as overclocking, so 12-18 months later at the earliest.
Where are you buying your parts from? I am not at all knowledgable of the pc market around here as I arrived very recently.
I appreciate any advice given, so thanks beforehand.
Your budget is not terribly large, so we won't be getting a large monitor or anything like that (although it should be quality). Here's what I recommend (I didn't check all the UK sites, but these seemed to work out): Core Components: 153 pounds Pentium g2120 - 72 MSI B75 matx mobo - 48 2x4gb 1333mhz RAM- 33 + Show Spoiler +Video Card: 91 pounds Gigabyte 7770 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-gigabyte-gv-r777oc-1gd-rev20-hd7770-atx-graphics-cardMonitor: 111 pounds Asus VS229H http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VS229H-Widescreen-Monitor-Headphone/dp/B005HIRFYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348074094&sr=8-1Edit: When in doubt on monitors, take WomWomWom's advice. (See below.) Supporting Components: 133 pounds Bit Fenix Merc Beta Case - 33 XFX Core 450w PSU - 37 (this may be out of stock when you order, you can try ebuyer.com for it as well) Hitachi 500gb HDD - 50 DVD-burner -13 + Show Spoiler +Peripherals (I assumed you didn't have these): 53 pounds Mionix Naos 3200 - 37 For right handers, one of the best comfy-ergonomic & gaming mice out there. Worth the $. Cheapo Logitech speakers - 9 Cheapo Microsoft keyboard - 7 + Show Spoiler +Total: 541 pounds, including tax, NOT including shipping. If it turns out you didn't need peripherals, you could upgrade the processor to an i3-3220 (20 more pounds) Another potential cost: USB wireless adapter if you are going to be connecting to a wireless router, ethernet cord if you're going to be using a wired connection. The CPU cannot be overclocked, so no need to consider that. Also, SLI/Crossfire is way outside your budget. You can, however, overclock the 7770 somewhat if you desire to. Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it and I am sorry, but I guess I was not clear in my message that my budget was £550, I actually recalculated and was able to push it to £650 for the PC only, all peripherals like mouse, keyboard, headset, pad I've brought from home and the monitor is on a different budget. Again, I am sorry for being unclear
Replace the Pentium g2120 with an i3-3220 Replace the Gigabyte 7770 with an MSI 7950 Add Plextor M3 128gb SSD
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i3-3220-s-1155-ivy-bridge-dual-core-33ghz-3mb-smart-cache-retail http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7950-twin-frozr-3gd5-v2-oc-5000mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-1792-cores-dvi-hdmi-2x-mini-di http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-plextor-px-128m3-25-ssd-sata-6gb-s-marvell-mlc-flash-read-500mb-s-write-320mb-s-256mb-cache-65
Subtract monitor, stuff you don't need.
New total: 643 pounds.
(Alternatively, you could go with an i5-3470 & a Gigabyte 660, but for a gamer I'd prioritize the video card).
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Team 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TXD38192M1600C9DC-D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255 DISCONTINUED
I'm having problems finding 8GB of RAM for the same price, ideas?
I'm between
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
and
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Could someone explain the difference between the Timings? 9-9-9-24-2n vs 9-9-9-24
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There is no difference. Both are 2T kits.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2012 05:07 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 00:15 Sneddo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey guys,
I was planning to build a computer for my friend, but haven't really looked at parts in forever and not sure what is the value. My friend really just wants to play WoW at high gfx levels and then the next sc2 at high settings too.
What is your budget? 800-900
What is your resolution? 1920x1080
What are you using it for? Gaming, I would really like to be able to play the next Starcraft at high/ultra settings and then WoW also at the highest settings.
What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years
When do you plan on building it? I want to get started right away.
Do you plan on overclocking? no
Do you need an Operating System? Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Maybe in the future, but wasn't planning on it for the first year or so
Where are you buying your parts from? I'll probably use my local Microcenter and then an online resource like newegg.
Thanks for the help in advance!! :D
Assuming you don't need peripherals (mouse, keyboard, speakers), here's my recommendation: Core Components: $219 i3-3220 - $120 after promo code, surprisingly about the same at microcenter after taxes Asrock B75 mATX mobo - $62 2x4gb 1600mhz RAM - $37 + Show Spoiler +Supporting Components & Windows: $339 Bit Fenix Outlaw Case - $36 Neo Eco 450c PSU - $40 Plextor MS5 128 GB SSD - $100 - + Show Spoiler +put your OS, WoW, and other programs you use a lot here for zoom-zoom loading times
Hitachi 1TB HDD - $70 DVD-burner - $13 SATA cable if you don't have an extra - $2 (1 for SSD, 1 for HDD, 1 for DVD-burner, mobo comes with 2) Windows Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $80 + Show Spoiler +Video Card: Gigabyte 660 ($230) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76163&vpn=GV-N660OC-2GD&manufacture=GigabyteTower total: $788, including shipping That leaves you room for the mouse, keyboard, & speakers if you need them. I recommend a cheap keyboard (probably some microsoft keyboard from us.ncix.com for $8), cheap speakers ($20 somewhere), and for mouse a Mionix Naos 3200 (most comfy ergonomic mouse I know of for right-handers... games well too). Ways to spend more: 1)upgrade to an i5-3450 for CPU ($150 at microcenter, before tax... actually come to think of it, you should probably do this). 2)Get a more expensive sound-dampening case like a Bit Fenix Ghost or a Fractal Design R3 3)get a more expensive video card like a 7950 (these last 2 options not recommended at your budget) Ways to spend less: 1)Drop the SSD (not recommended) Speaking of the SSD, what it does is reduce load times. You can see this when booting up (much faster). In SC2 (your loading bar will finish much faster than your opponents'... but you still have to wait for your opponent, so SC2 isn't as useful on the SSD. In WoW - graphics textures loaded on the fly will appear more quickly (WoW is one of the few games to get an actual, if minor, in-gameplay benefit form an SSD. I'm looking for a new monitor as well that is inexpensive, but a best value, for this rig. I do not need anything bigger than 24"
Currently looking at Acer G215HVAbd Black 21.5" 5ms Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor 200 cd/m2 20,000:1 Max (ACM) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009306
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If you can't spend $150+ on something reasonably okay, I would suggest that you spent too much on the tower and the parts inside (which don't last as long, don't have as big an impact on user experience, etc.).
As a minimum, so long as you are not bothered by the heavy antiglare coating, there's the Asus VS229H-P for around $150 at various places. Also check the monitor thread. Ideally, look around at options in person.
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hey im back looking for a build for myself this time. Thanks in advance!
What is your budget?
$800~1200
What is your resolution?
Need a 1920 x 1080 monitor included in the budget. 2 if budget allows.
What are you using it for?
Gaming and schoolwork. I want to be able to handle the latest games and future games at the highest settings.
What is your upgrade cycle?
1~2 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Maybe a couple months from now.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, wherever is cheapest.
*Also need a case included in the budget that can last awhile for future upgrades. SSD would be nice too. No mouse, keyboard, speakers required.
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The Acer G215HVAbd is a old CCFL monitor. Old TN monitors are almost all universally bad compared to modern offerings. Myrmidon has the right idea.
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Dont SLI with 660's, that would be pretty pointless.
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On September 21 2012 22:25 Medrea wrote: Dont SLI with 660's, that would be pretty pointless. Do you mean because of the memory bandwidth issues on the 600 series, or because it's not a flagship card, or both?
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On September 21 2012 22:25 Medrea wrote: Dont SLI with 660's, that would be pretty pointless.
Actually, if you do it in reasonable timing, nvidia x60 cards are good for SLI, unless a specific one doesn't do so well with it. There's the usual SLI related fun available to be had, but if you do it while the cards are still reasonably powerful, they'll generally be better than a single flagship of the same generation. With the usual caveats about false savings, the expected argument about microstuttering where people ignore logic because they saw a scary chart, and the needed disclaimer about SLI/CFX scaling best with games that have been out for a while.
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Canada: UltraSharp U2312HM @ $180
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On September 21 2012 22:25 Medrea wrote: Dont SLI with 660's, that would be pretty pointless. I was orignally going to go with 7850 but doesn't SLI scale better than CF?
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On September 22 2012 00:05 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2012 22:25 Medrea wrote: Dont SLI with 660's, that would be pretty pointless. I was orignally going to go with 7850 but doesn't SLI scale better than CF?
It's individual game dependent, individual driver version dependent, resolution dependent, specific card dependent, in some scenarios, especially with high resolutions and high res textures, VRAM will be a factor, PhysX can be considered for some games and 3dmark...
If you're going for general use, just go by specific card cost effectiveness. Otherwise, there's a million and twelve factors that change with the phase of the moon.
Oh, and a lot of times, when there's a significant difference, or resolution/texture based factors that make VRAM and memory bandwidth relevant, it's actually usually CFX that wins on scaling.
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I've been running a Q9550 for quite some time now and it's not able to sustain the latest games anymore, and cannot handle Adobe CS6 (illustrator/photoshop) very well, which is really important.
What is your budget? 800-900CAN .If not enough, please suggest new budget. (Sounds like it's not going to be enough)
What is your resolution? 1920x1080
What are you using it for? For editing large amount of photos with Lightroom, Graphic design(Adobe Illustrator/Photoshop/Indesign) and Streaming
What is your upgrade cycle? Every 4 years or so
When do you plan on building it? ASAP!
Do you plan on overclocking? No idea. Will it benefit me? What's your take on that?
Do you need an Operating System? NaDa.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? NaDa
Where are you buying your parts from? So, Canadacomputers and ncix
Note: I do not require dvddrive, sound card, graphic card, keyboard, mouse, monitors.
Thanks guys!
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(I won't be posting a full Canadian build recommendation, but this question should be relevant)
Are you sure it's the Q9550 that's holding you back in gaming? You mentioned you don't need a video card...what do you have now? Q9550 is still pretty decent and should only experience painful slowdowns in very few games like SC2.
For Adobe CS6 the CPU upgrade will yield massive benefits, though.
I would personally also consider overclocking (assuming you have a decent motherboard), but that's not guaranteed and might yield only ~20-30% improved performance at best.
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