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Note that the original Antec BP550 Plus, by Delta, has 384W on +12V (how that translates to around 400W of usable capacity in most systems is beyond me—more like 430W and I'd believe you).
The newer version, which has been out a while, has 444W on +12V.
These are kind of cost-cut but definitely not bad Delta designs, so I don't really think $50 is really that bad for that. It's not like you're getting Basiq 350W or 500W quality, or some of the VP. This doesn't look so bad: http://diy.pconline.com.cn/power/reviews/1109/2527372_2.html
though I don't think there's a proper review of performance.
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What is your budget? Roughly $800-$900
What is your resolution? 1366x768
What are you using it for? Gaming primarily. Starcraft 2 and DotA 2.
What is your upgrade cycle? 4 years
When do you plan on building it? In the summer. Not sure when exactly, but I would guess early to mid June.
Do you plan on overclocking? Nope
Do you need an Operating System? Nope
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not sure what this is...but I would say nope.
Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg.com
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Can someone confirm that my power supply is sufficient for this build:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Rosewill RNX-N150PCe (RNWD-11011) IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCIe 2.0 Wireless Adapter SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 3 120mm fans Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W ASRock H61M-VS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX
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On April 21 2012 08:57 Doodsmack wrote: Can someone confirm that my power supply is sufficient for this build:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Rosewill RNX-N150PCe (RNWD-11011) IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCIe 2.0 Wireless Adapter SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 3 120mm fans Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W ASRock H61M-VS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX
Yes.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/291
284w from the wall in a system with a much more power hungry CPU.
That's from the wall, which means the PSU was putting out more like 250w. And Earthwatts 430D is a decent quality unit, not one of the horribly over-rated, easily pushed out of spec pieces of shit you see from terrible brands like Apevia.
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On April 21 2012 07:33 Sovano wrote: When do you plan on building it? In the summer. Not sure when exactly, but I would guess early to mid June. Come back later. New technology will be available then, overall some prices will be different, and there's no use pointing out good deals now that will be gone in a week, not to mention two months later. You can look at previous pages for a general idea of what's possible now.
On April 21 2012 08:57 Doodsmack wrote:Can someone confirm that my power supply is sufficient for this build: + Show Spoiler +Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Rosewill RNX-N150PCe (RNWD-11011) IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCIe 2.0 Wireless Adapter SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 3 120mm fans Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W ASRock H61M-VS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX You're not going to use half of 430W, and that power supply is decent and can actually sustain 430W.
edit: FurMark load power consumption is kind of difficult to relate to actual power consumption because the CPU and system is so much different (so an overestimation), and there's efficiency losses in the PSU (so an overestimation) but the CPU is not being stressed (so an underestimation).
Actual full load value with an i3-2100 should be a lot lower than that though.
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Just need £181 for my case and harddrive!
LETS DO THIS!
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On April 21 2012 09:03 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 07:33 Sovano wrote: When do you plan on building it? In the summer. Not sure when exactly, but I would guess early to mid June. Come back later. New technology will be available then, overall some prices will be different, and there's no use pointing out good deals now that will be gone in a week, not to mention two months later. You can look at previous pages for a general idea of what's possible now. Okay will do. Thanks for the response.
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Can anyone point out anything wrong with this build I plan on getting?
Resolution is 1680x1050
GFX--EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) $210 RAM--G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) $60 CPU--Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $220 OS--Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $100 SSD--SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC064D/AM 2.5" 64GB $120 MOBO--ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 $140 CASE--Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower $120 PSU and HDD-- already own 750w and 500gb
Also wondering if it would be possibe to stream with this.
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On April 21 2012 12:28 ragingfungus wrote: Can anyone point out anything wrong with this build I plan on getting?
Resolution is 1680x1050
GFX--EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) $210 RAM--G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) $60 CPU--Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $220 OS--Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $100 SSD--SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC064D/AM 2.5" 64GB $120 MOBO--ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 $140 CASE--Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower $120 PSU and HDD-- already own 750w and 500gb
It has a GTX480, there's probably better cases in the price range, and that seems like an expensive mobo for a single GPU rig.
Yes, you can easily stream.
But seriously, a 480? Shit card.
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Memory is severely overpriced. Why waste money on the memory that offer like 1 FPS when you can't afford flagship components that offer better gains? Just get a 1333MHz / 1600MHz cas9 kit for $40 or less.
Use your money thrown away the memory to get a 120 / 128gb SSD for $30 more.
2500k is overpriced at $220.
You're missing a heatsink.
Asrock Z77 Extreme6 for $140 is okay I guess, better than it's $170 MSRP but I have my doubts on why you are wasting money on a relatively high-end board when you have no heatsink...
GTX 480 is okay if the only thing you care about is performance and ignore the fact that it's hot, loud, and power hungry.
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On April 21 2012 12:31 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 12:28 ragingfungus wrote: Can anyone point out anything wrong with this build I plan on getting?
Resolution is 1680x1050
GFX--EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) $210 RAM--G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) $60 CPU--Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $220 OS--Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $100 SSD--SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC064D/AM 2.5" 64GB $120 MOBO--ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 $140 CASE--Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower $120 PSU and HDD-- already own 750w and 500gb
It has a GTX480, there's probably better cases in the price range, and that seems like an expensive mobo for a single GPU rig. Yes, you can easily stream. But seriously, a 480? Shit card.
Is there another gfx card you would recommend near 200-250? Also changed the ram to some regular 8g sticks for 15 cheaper
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On April 21 2012 12:50 ragingfungus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 12:31 JingleHell wrote:On April 21 2012 12:28 ragingfungus wrote: Can anyone point out anything wrong with this build I plan on getting?
Resolution is 1680x1050
GFX--EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) $210 RAM--G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) $60 CPU--Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $220 OS--Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $100 SSD--SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC064D/AM 2.5" 64GB $120 MOBO--ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 $140 CASE--Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower $120 PSU and HDD-- already own 750w and 500gb
It has a GTX480, there's probably better cases in the price range, and that seems like an expensive mobo for a single GPU rig. Yes, you can easily stream. But seriously, a 480? Shit card. Is there another gfx card you would recommend near 200-250?
HD 7850? Costs a little more, performs a bit better, and doesn't try to sound like the worlds hottest wind tunnel.
That's with better thermals, power draw, and (I assume) better OCing.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, so I am not entirely sure if this has been discussed or not, and since I have never built a computer before, I was wondering what you should do if you put your computer together and it doesn't start up? This is really the only thing stopping me right now from building a computer, since I don't really know anyone "computer savvy" irl, and I'm not sure how you should go about diagnosing what your problem is if there happens to be one.
Since my question is rather vague, I'm just asking for a general process to go about when trying to figure out what went wrong, like a broken part or something was put in wrong,etc..
Also, I know everyone says building a computer is EZ, but if you are someone who doesn't know all that much about computers, and doesn't have and "computer savvy" friends, if it is recommended to build your own computer, since you could really be screwed over if you mess up. From what ive seen it looks really ez, but im nervous to spend and adequate amount of money on something that i may not be able to get to work, just looking for opinions, thanks alot :D
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On April 21 2012 12:57 Flying Potato wrote: Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, so I am not entirely sure if this has been discussed or not, and since I have never built a computer before, I was wondering what you should do if you put your computer together and it doesn't start up? This is really the only thing stopping me right now from building a computer, since I don't really know anyone "computer savvy" irl, and I'm not sure how you should go about diagnosing what your problem is if there happens to be one.
Since my question is rather vague, I'm just asking for a general process to go about when trying to figure out what went wrong, like a broken part or something was put in wrong,etc..
Also, I know everyone says building a computer is EZ, but if you are someone who doesn't know all that much about computers, and doesn't have and "computer savvy" friends, if it is recommended to build your own computer, since you could really be screwed over if you mess up. From what ive seen it looks really ez, but im nervous to spend and adequate amount of money on something that i may not be able to get to work, just looking for opinions, thanks alot :D
Watch the hardware canucks youtube video on building a PC to see how easy it really is.
If it doesn't boot, you come here, we run you through some things, and it either boots, or we tell you what to return, rinse and repeat.
You can definitely get a better rig for your money building, as a rule.
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On April 21 2012 12:59 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 12:57 Flying Potato wrote: Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, so I am not entirely sure if this has been discussed or not, and since I have never built a computer before, I was wondering what you should do if you put your computer together and it doesn't start up? This is really the only thing stopping me right now from building a computer, since I don't really know anyone "computer savvy" irl, and I'm not sure how you should go about diagnosing what your problem is if there happens to be one.
Since my question is rather vague, I'm just asking for a general process to go about when trying to figure out what went wrong, like a broken part or something was put in wrong,etc..
Also, I know everyone says building a computer is EZ, but if you are someone who doesn't know all that much about computers, and doesn't have and "computer savvy" friends, if it is recommended to build your own computer, since you could really be screwed over if you mess up. From what ive seen it looks really ez, but im nervous to spend and adequate amount of money on something that i may not be able to get to work, just looking for opinions, thanks alot :D Watch the hardware canucks youtube video on building a PC to see how easy it really is. If it doesn't boot, you come here, we run you through some things, and it either boots, or we tell you what to return, rinse and repeat. You can definitely get a better rig for your money building, as a rule.
Okok, thanks alot! I just needed something in the back of my mind that could affirm i had SOMEWHERE to go if something went wrong, since ik in reality it HAS to be ez when this many ppl say so, but i was just worried about downing a fairly decent amount of money into something i couldnt use, good to know TL always has my back (where would we be w/o TL?)
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You can't be screwed over if the configuration you put together doesn't turn on, unless you buy used / refurbished / open box parts or you are extremely idiotic (in which case you would deserve it). By being extremely idiotic I mean, forcing something into somewhere that it doesn't fit. All the major components fit only one way and there's manuals as well so... ya.
If the configuration doesn't turn on then you either forgot a cable, forgot to flip the switch on the power supply, forgot standoffs, plugged in the front panel headers incorrectly, or something is faulty than you start troubleshooting and exchange whatever part you think is faulty.
You can also always just go to Best Buy Geek Squad or your local computer hardware store and often times get ripped off, they can put it together for you or solve your problem.
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On April 21 2012 13:04 Flying Potato wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 12:59 JingleHell wrote:On April 21 2012 12:57 Flying Potato wrote: Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, so I am not entirely sure if this has been discussed or not, and since I have never built a computer before, I was wondering what you should do if you put your computer together and it doesn't start up? This is really the only thing stopping me right now from building a computer, since I don't really know anyone "computer savvy" irl, and I'm not sure how you should go about diagnosing what your problem is if there happens to be one.
Since my question is rather vague, I'm just asking for a general process to go about when trying to figure out what went wrong, like a broken part or something was put in wrong,etc..
Also, I know everyone says building a computer is EZ, but if you are someone who doesn't know all that much about computers, and doesn't have and "computer savvy" friends, if it is recommended to build your own computer, since you could really be screwed over if you mess up. From what ive seen it looks really ez, but im nervous to spend and adequate amount of money on something that i may not be able to get to work, just looking for opinions, thanks alot :D Watch the hardware canucks youtube video on building a PC to see how easy it really is. If it doesn't boot, you come here, we run you through some things, and it either boots, or we tell you what to return, rinse and repeat. You can definitely get a better rig for your money building, as a rule. Okok, thanks alot! I just needed something in the back of my mind that could affirm i had SOMEWHERE to go if something went wrong, since ik in reality it HAS to be ez when this many ppl say so, but i was just worried about downing a fairly decent amount of money into something i couldnt use, good to know TL always has my back (where would we be w/o TL?)
Basically, as long as you can read a manual, put shit in the one hole it fits in, use a screwdriver, and follow the rather simple step-by-step directions, you should be able to put together a PC fine. Worst case you get a dead piece of hardware shipped, but that's what return policy is for.
It's pretty rare someone is so hopeless that we can't help them figure out what's wrong when they build ( and usually nothing is, the issues are rare, and the majority of them are simple tiny things). And having the sense to be wondering before doing it what can go wrong and what to think about suggests you're not that hopeless.
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Hey guys, I remember someone once made a thread listing different builds for different budgets - I was just searching for it but didn't find it yet.If anyone remembers the name or who made it your help woiuld be greatly appreciated ^-^
edit: found it it is here
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That would be shikyo but thsoe builds are horribly outdated now so there's no point in following them unless you don't care about wasting money.
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On April 20 2012 11:00 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 10:11 Doodsmack wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Would appreciate any input on the below build which is primarily for Diablo 3. Max budget is around $600 including Windows 7. Is my PSU wattage sufficient? Thanks!
Rosewill RNX-N150PCe (RNWD-11011) IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCIe 2.0 Wireless Adapter
$11.99
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M2A1333C9
$24.99
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$69.99
GIGABYTE GA-Z68AP-D3(R2.0) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$109.99
MSI R6450-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
$44.99
Antec Basiq BP350 350W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply
$39.99
Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80616I3540
$119.99
Western Digital AV-GP WD5000AUDX 500GB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$99.99
LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04
$59.99
Subtotal: $546.90 Ignoring the compatibility issue and the miscalculation of the total (unless there are coupons / promos which you didn't mention), your build basically sucks. BP350 isn't an attractive option at $40 given what is available at this price point currently. Caviar Green should not be used as a primary drive. Antec Three Hundred is overpriced at $70 and you should not be severely sacrificing performance for the case. Memory is overpriced. 6450 sucks. Not sure why you need a blu-ray player for Diablo III. For $490, this is miles better (not including wireless or optical drive). Basically the same price as your configuration when you add the wireless and blu-ray: Sapphire Radeon HD6850 @ $135 (w/ promo code HARDOCPX418G, ends 4/24) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908GSkill 4GB 1333MHz @ $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421Antec Earthwatts 430D @ $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034Intel Core i3 2100 & Asrock H61M-VS @ $170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.882767Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $75 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00461G3MSCoolermaster HAF 912 @ $50 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZM7YTA/
How good can this built run other games like Skyrim, Sc2 ect? I'm a total noob at this, and are looking for a computer that can handle modern games. Any helps is appreciated, thanks.
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