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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 31 2012 01:21 GMT
#20101
On March 31 2012 10:20 Poe wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Are there that many devices that need/can take advantage of 3.0 really? Can't think of any I currently have that would.


No. It's really just externals for most people.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
March 31 2012 01:23 GMT
#20102
but now the other thing is what prevents my PC from booting, that I have to hit it to start?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 31 2012 01:25 GMT
#20103
On March 31 2012 10:23 xeo1 wrote:
but now the other thing is what prevents my PC from booting, that I have to hit it to start?


You are gonna have to remind me since its Friday and I am tired. Was your current PSU any good?
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 31 2012 01:26 GMT
#20104
Almost certainly your PSU shitting up as I had that exact same thing the longest time ago
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
March 31 2012 01:26 GMT
#20105
no, some random PSU, and I didn't replace it with the corsair cx430 I bought yet.. maybe thats it?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 31 2012 01:27 GMT
#20106
Probably.
twitch.tv/medrea
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
March 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#20107
I'm hating right now... insane sales going on at Cdiscount.com for france/belgium/switzerland, time to buy guys, last until 4 april

samsung 256gb for 230€ and 128gb for 120€
gtx560ti for 150€
hd7850 under the 200€ (just a bit cheaper then normally)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
March 31 2012 15:09 GMT
#20108
btw, is the corsair cx430 enough to power an i5 2400, GTX 460, and 8 gigs of ram?
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
March 31 2012 15:21 GMT
#20109
On April 01 2012 00:09 xeo1 wrote:
btw, is the corsair cx430 enough to power an i5 2400, GTX 460, and 8 gigs of ram?


Yes, the CX430 (v2) is fine.
WayHeroic
Profile Joined May 2011
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:31:35
March 31 2012 15:40 GMT
#20110
So my desktop has an issue booting. When I try and turn it on, the standby light turns on but nothing else does, and I can't turn it back off without turning off the power supply. Last night, I jumpstarted the power supply following this guide: http://www.overclock.net/t/96712/how-to-jump-start-a-power-supply-psu-test-a-power-supply-and-components and then it was able to turn on. However, this morning, after 10 minutes of use, the desktop shut down during use, and when I tried to turn it back on, the standby light reappeared and wouldn't go away unless I shut the Power supply off. I tried jumpstarting it again, but it didn't work this time. I guess this means I need to replace the Power supply? Is it likely any of my other parts would be damaged?

Specs:
CPU: i5-2400
GPU: MSI Radeon 6850
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion
PSU: Corsair CX430V2
RAM: 8GB GSkill
Motherboard: Asrock H61M-VS

EDIT: and if I need to replace the power supply, do you guys have any suggestions?
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
March 31 2012 16:23 GMT
#20111
Hello, I'm back to consult the sages of TL.net. I originally posted a rig request a few months ago, but an emergency with my family in the old country led to me being broke and unable to buy the parts for that build. However, I now have roughly $800 to play with, with $100 of that going to a new operating system, leaving me with a $700 budget for a computer.

1. I want to be able to run Starcraft 2 at Extreme graphics without lagging.

2. I want to play Team Fortress 2 at medium-ish settings, since I don't think $700 is enough to build a computer that maxes out on TF2.

3. I want a large enough monitor to get a big table when playing Magic Online. I currently have a 1280x1024 monitor, and I'm thinking of going as high as I can without breaking the bank.

I prefer Intel over AMD, but I am not that picky.

I guess I should answer the questionnaire:

What is your budget?

$800.

What is your resolution?

My current resolution is 1280x1024, and I want to go higher than that without breaking the bank.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming, with some dabbling in computer programming as a hobby.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I bought my computer in 2005, and I upgraded it in 2009. It's 2012, and I'm going to buy a new computer from scratch, so my upgrade cycle is around 4 years.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP. I have $800 burning a whole in my wallet.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No, I want my computer to last, and overclocking shortens the lifespan of a computer, or so I've been told.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No. Not for my budget, nor for the foreseeable future.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg!
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 31 2012 17:19 GMT
#20112
Intel Core i3-2100 - $110 (promo code EMCNGHC43)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

AsRock H61M-GS or H61M/U3S3 - $55 or $70 (depending on if you want more ports, USB3, SATA3, or not)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157286
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Sapphire HD 6850 and G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 - $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650

Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB - $80 (promo code EMCNGHC57)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Samsung CD / DVD burner - $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244

Antec Earthwatts Green 380D - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

NZXT Source 210 - $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $80 (promo code EMCYTZT1382)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Acer G245HQABD 23.6" 1920x1080 - $120 (promo code EMCNGHA97)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009305


I'm not thrilled by the cheap PSU and case selections on newegg currently. I have no idea about cheap monitors these days, so maybe you want something better than that. There's a little bit of room under $800 with the above, to upgrade one thing or two.
Chaomantic
Profile Joined January 2011
20 Posts
March 31 2012 17:25 GMT
#20113
Hey, everyone.

I'm looking forward to playing D3 this May (as are many of you, I imagine) but I still need to buy me a decent graphics card.

I'm not much of gamer these days and I'm pretty sure that D3 will probably be the last title I play with any degree of commitment so there isn't much need for future proofing here but it would be nice to have a decent frame rate coupled with good looks.

As of now I'm thinking of getting GTX 460 or GTX 550 Ti. The former is a time-honored choice and the proverbial "best bang" but the latter is a little more accommodating in terms of price. These two should give you a general idea of my budget. My display operates at 1680x1050 so I think either of the two should do fine.

Have any of you had any experience running beta with these GPUs? Is GTX 460 worth the extra cash here? Are there any better options? The idea is to get the best possible efficiency without going over the top.

Also, has anyone tried playing beta on i3/i5 graphics core alone? Will it run? Will it be playable? I know Starcraft 2 is and with everything turned to low it gives you something like 40 FPS. Not much and it looks ugly but it can be played.

Thanks in advance.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:14:31
March 31 2012 17:28 GMT
#20114
@Eternal Dalek
Edit: Great advice from Myrmidon above as well. I agree with him about the lack of PSU deals right now. The antec he listed may be a better choice, as some few of the Corsairs I listed sometimes develop coil whine. Note the antec will require a spare power cord as it doesn't come with one (these are dirt cheap if you don't have one). Also, I split my order between 2 websites, his is all on newegg, which might be more convenient.

The monitor makes things a bit complicated. You can get a very nice 23" monitor like an Ultrasharp 2312HM from Dell for $240.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=320-2807
Or you can go in the other direction & get some random $150 1920x1080 monitor that looks good in a store or something. (Or the nice monitor special posted above by Myrmidon).

TF2 and SC2 both use only 2 cores, so a dual core CPU to save some money. A quad core would be roughly $75 more.

CPU - i3-2100 ($110 w/ promo code EMCNGHC43) + DVD on combo special ($11)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.846156
Assuming the promo code will work with the combo...

Mobo - Asrock Cheapo ($55)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
Has 2 controllable fan headers unlike the 1 controllable fan headers on the $5 cheaper boards.

Video Card - Both of these are far more powerful than SC2 needs - I'm not totally up on TF2 graphics requirements, but they should allow at least medium, probably high or even maximum settings in TF2.

Option #1 (more powerful video card, cheapo monitor) - 6870 ($160)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986
Option #2 (moderate power video card, good Dell monitor - I recommend this route) - 460 ($118 AMIR) The 460 should have roughly equivalent power to the 6850 recommended by Myrmidon above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

Case - Bit Fenix Merc Alpha ($35)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&vpn=BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1363
The Haf 912 at the same website is another often recommended budget case ($50)

PSU - Corsair cx430v2 ($37 AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
If you don't want to deal with power adapters for the video card, you can get the 500w version of the same line for $43 AMIR with a promo code.

HDD - 500GB 7200rpm drive ($75)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1263
You can get the 1TB version for $98 if you want more space.

RAM - Pareema 2x4gb 1333mhz RAM ($35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006
You can get 2x2gb if you want to save a few dollars.

Oops. Forgot windows, thanks Myrmidon!:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $80 (promo code EMCYTZT1382)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
If you're a student, you might be able to get a free or cheap copy of windows through your school.

Total w/Dell monitor & 460: $796 after mail-in rebates

That doesn't leave you much wiggle room if you like the looks of the haf 912 over the merc alpha, want a bigger HDD, etc. Also, it goes significantly over budget not taking rebates into account. Shipping costs are added into prices in parentheses. I'm also assuming you have peripherals like mouse, headphones/speakers, keyboard, etc.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 31 2012 18:09 GMT
#20115
On April 01 2012 02:25 Chaomantic wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, everyone.

I'm looking forward to playing D3 this May (as are many of you, I imagine) but I still need to buy me a decent graphics card.

I'm not much of gamer these days and I'm pretty sure that D3 will probably be the last title I play with any degree of commitment so there isn't much need for future proofing here but it would be nice to have a decent frame rate coupled with good looks.

As of now I'm thinking of getting GTX 460 or GTX 550 Ti. The former is a time-honored choice and the proverbial "best bang" but the latter is a little more accommodating in terms of price. These two should give you a general idea of my budget. My display operates at 1680x1050 so I think either of the two should do fine.

Have any of you had any experience running beta with these GPUs? Is GTX 460 worth the extra cash here? Are there any better options? The idea is to get the best possible efficiency without going over the top.

Also, has anyone tried playing beta on i3/i5 graphics core alone? Will it run? Will it be playable? I know Starcraft 2 is and with everything turned to low it gives you something like 40 FPS. Not much and it looks ugly but it can be played.

Thanks in advance.


You didn't mention where you're from...

A GTX 460 is only $140 while a GTX 550 Ti isn't a very good choice since it's pricing is terrible. It offers similar performance to a Radeon HD6770 yet it's priced at the level of a 6790.

A GTX 460 can play D3 beta on max settings at 1080p. It's requirements will be pretty much similar to Starcraft II.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:34:44
March 31 2012 18:34 GMT
#20116
Yeah, gtx 460 is still decent in newer games, and performs about equal to a 6850 (yet overclocks better). Like skyr says 550 ti is priced badly, is a bad card and there are several better options. Don't ever consider it. If you're gaming I don't think there is any sense in going more low budget than this, since you'll have to switch card every year you want to play a new game and it'll be more expensive in the end anyway.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Kuznagi
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada58 Posts
March 31 2012 19:04 GMT
#20117
What is your budget?

1100-1300

What is your resolution?

Using two monitors: Dell U2711W and a BenQ 1080P Monitor. Resolutions: 2560x1440 and 1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly Gaming, I don't play FPSs much but I play almost everything else, I photoshop every so often as well. Just to note with my current GPU I can play everything on max with stuff like AA at 2 or 4x.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Every 2-3 years, I still seem to buy parts every so often along the way.

When do you plan on building it?

I plan on having an Ivy Bridge build, I have seen numerious sandy bridge and mobo combos but I prefer Ivy Bridge for the better power consumption.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Usually towards year 2 or 3 of it, if it doesn't hurt the CPU then I can immediately do it, bear in mind I will proly buy a good cooler right off the bat and install it.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Depends, my options are something like:
6950 Crossfire
7970 (Once price drops cuz of GTX 680)
GTX 680

I have a $575 budget on GPU, I have already bought a 6950 with warrenty for about 275 I could proly sell it 225 and buy a 7970/680 or just buy a 6950. Depends whether xfire/powerful single card I heard xfire sometimes has driver issues.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I plan to use MemoryExpress to price match every other store in Canada and have them build it as well.

Current Setup:
i5-750 OC to 3.4 Ghz
8GB Ram 1333
Sapphire 6950 2GB
650 Antec Power Supply
128 GB Crucial M4 SSD (Bought on a sale for new build)
1 TB Backup data drive.
Dell U2711, Benq 1080P monitor.

What is a recomended build, I assume most components will be fresh except the SSD and GPU, which Ivy Bridge processor should I get, something along the lines of i5-2500k or i5-2600k would be good, which cooler to get 4-5 Ghz OC?

And biggest question GPU choice, I want this to last long term, look above for options, bear in mind I have 0 trouble playing anything at 1440p, I don't get silky smooth 60fps but I wouldn't mind turning more up.

Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 31 2012 19:12 GMT
#20118
On April 01 2012 04:04 Kuznagi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

1100-1300

What is your resolution?

Using two monitors: Dell U2711W and a BenQ 1080P Monitor. Resolutions: 2560x1440 and 1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly Gaming, I don't play FPSs much but I play almost everything else, I photoshop every so often as well. Just to note with my current GPU I can play everything on max with stuff like AA at 2 or 4x.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Every 2-3 years, I still seem to buy parts every so often along the way.

When do you plan on building it?

I plan on having an Ivy Bridge build, I have seen numerious sandy bridge and mobo combos but I prefer Ivy Bridge for the better power consumption.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Usually towards year 2 or 3 of it, if it doesn't hurt the CPU then I can immediately do it, bear in mind I will proly buy a good cooler right off the bat and install it.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Depends, my options are something like:
6950 Crossfire
7970 (Once price drops cuz of GTX 680)
GTX 680

I have a $575 budget on GPU, I have already bought a 6950 with warrenty for about 275 I could proly sell it 225 and buy a 7970/680 or just buy a 6950. Depends whether xfire/powerful single card I heard xfire sometimes has driver issues.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I plan to use MemoryExpress to price match every other store in Canada and have them build it as well.

Current Setup:
i5-750 OC to 3.4 Ghz
8GB Ram 1333
Sapphire 6950 2GB
650 Antec Power Supply
128 GB Crucial M4 SSD (Bought on a sale for new build)
1 TB Backup data drive.
Dell U2711, Benq 1080P monitor.

What is a recomended build, I assume most components will be fresh except the SSD and GPU, which Ivy Bridge processor should I get, something along the lines of i5-2500k or i5-2600k would be good, which cooler to get 4-5 Ghz OC?

And biggest question GPU choice, I want this to last long term, look above for options, bear in mind I have 0 trouble playing anything at 1440p, I don't get silky smooth 60fps but I wouldn't mind turning more up.

Thanks!


You can re-use your power supply as well since you overkilled on it and it's probably a Truepower New or Earthwatts which are both good models.

Your memory can also be re-used since Ivybridge still uses DDR3.

Your case can also be re-used, I assume it's something decent.

Your heatsink can be re-used, I assume it's decent as well.

For Ivybridge, I guess you're looking at a 3570k or 3770k depending on whether you want hyperthreading or not. Though I would just stick with your Lynnfield and wait for Haswell before upgrading.

Radeon HD7970 won't drop in pricing anytime soon but people can keep dreaming I guess.

6950s aren't a good option at all, I don't know why you bought it for $275 since that's overpriced.. 7850s are a better choice.
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
March 31 2012 19:52 GMT
#20119
Worth upgrading from a GTS 250 to a GTX 260 for $50?

EVGA GTS 250 512 MB vs BFG GTX 260 OCX MAXCORE 896 MB
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Lagcraft
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 20:25:49
March 31 2012 20:25 GMT
#20120
I'm looking for a good desktop that can play SC2 on low graphics and stream without lag.

My budget cap is around $800.

I'm planning on using this computer solely for gaming and schoolwork.

I would possibly need to get a Windows 7, though I might have a spare one somewhere.

I don't plan on overclocking.

Thanks
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