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[EP1] Starcraft 2 Battle Report #1 - Page 12

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Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
December 21 2008 13:41 GMT
#221
Wow, people sure are reading deep into AN ADVERT.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
December 21 2008 13:46 GMT
#222
This is great, however the commentry is pretty damn terrible.

I would definately love to see more of these however as they give a great insight as to how the game plays.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 21 2008 13:46 GMT
#223
On December 21 2008 22:37 SaharaDrac wrote:


How can you share that opinion? That opinion is the most horrifyingly ignorant thing I've read in a long time. I mean..."basically not related"??? Holy shit, come ON, man! You always seem like a pretty intelligent (if not a little backwards thinking) guy...


i meant the ppl moving on from brood war to star2 not the whole oppinion , sry, misunderstoodment
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
December 21 2008 13:53 GMT
#224
It's people like MuR)Ernu that gives teamliquid.net a bad rep. I mean most of his statements aren't even well thougth. "The xel naga watchtowers are stupid." ?? "The game looks like it will lag like hell"??
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
SaharaDrac
Profile Joined May 2008
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:01:46
December 21 2008 14:01 GMT
#225
All it was was an example to show people who DON'T watch korean Starcraft VODs (read: 99% of the world) what Starcraft is like being commentated on like a sporting event. That's IT.
We are Venom
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
December 21 2008 14:03 GMT
#226
On December 21 2008 23:01 SaharaDrac wrote:
All it was was an example to show people who DON'T watch korean Starcraft VODs (read: 99.9% of the world) what Starcraft is like being commentated on like a sporting event. That's IT.

Fixe'd
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:09:14
December 21 2008 14:04 GMT
#227
Well sorry, the xel naga watchtowers seem stupid to me, and the game indeed does look like it will lag like hell if you dont have a supercomputer.

Starcraft 2 and starcraft should be thought of as 2 different games, no-one was like "yay lets switch from BW when Ra3 comes out". That is what i meant when they are "not basically related".

I know those posts were bad, i was a bit tired when i wrote those + i had other stuff in my mind as well.

I apologize if i am the reason TL "sucks".

Also what i think gives TL a bad rep is the fact that there is a bit too much flaming, which is OK to me.

AND at least i posted, on topic. You just started hatin' on me because some parts of my post was shit.

Also saharadrac do you have any opinions of your own? Or do you just look for flamewars everywhere?

My posts were 100% better than your were in this topic. You were OT'ing and posting shit about ME, and saying that TL community sucks, which you are a part of. You are more a part of this community than i am, i only started posting here couple of days ago.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
December 21 2008 14:10 GMT
#228
MuR)Ernu. stop picking fights with people or you run the risk of being banned.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
December 21 2008 14:13 GMT
#229
He started it, and i dont want to "pick fights" anyways, I rest my case.
SaharaDrac
Profile Joined May 2008
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:19:51
December 21 2008 14:19 GMT
#230
On December 21 2008 23:01 SaharaDrac wrote:
All it was was an example to show people who DON'T watch korean Starcraft VODs (read: 99% of the world) what Starcraft is like being commentated on like a sporting event. That's IT.



That was me changing the subject back to OT. The people in this thread looked at this video like it was Blizzard desperately trying to impress them, because well, hardcore nerds like us think we're the only ones people make games for. The truth however, is how I described it in the post i quoted above.
We are Venom
Kimera757
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada129 Posts
December 21 2008 14:34 GMT
#231
On December 21 2008 22:18 Ki_Do wrote:
is there a link to the new damage system anywhere?


Check this link out: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_types#StarCraft_II
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_Wiki ; a complete and referenced database on the StarCraft game series, StarCraft II, Lore, Characters and Gameplay.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
December 21 2008 14:38 GMT
#232
Wow I have really mixed feelings about that.
The game looks great and I can see that there is real potential there for awesome competitive play.

But I really want to shoot Dustin Browder. Listening to him is like watching your Dad dance at a party... you know what I mean?!
He thinks he's really cool and he's making the game hip but really he should just shut up and let someone else cast.
The way he pretends those two pathetically weak players were making great plays by moving an observer 2 inches to the right.
And wait.... if he mentioned the stupid towers and explodable rocks (a dazzling new concept might I add) once, he mentioned them a thousand times.

It's great to see in-game footage, but please if you really have to cast games instead of just releasing footage... get some decent casters.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:43:55
December 21 2008 14:40 GMT
#233
After watching this game, here are the few things I think need looking at.

Units clumping - Makes it impossible to tell whats going on when there are heaps of units all clipping through each other. Units stand too close to each other. An example of what it should be more like is when the terran was moving that force of helions around at the end. Thats the distance units should be keeping from each other.

Death animations - Death animations have to seriously contrast with what the unit looks like when it is alive for easy readability. For example in BW a white medic would blow up into a sludge of red, acommpanied by a very distinct sound. Its very important for readability that things die in an effective manner. (I did like the protoss buildings death animations, they were cool)

Map control - While this could just be a result of the poor players, there seemed to be very little map control in this game. Just units walking to the other's base in lines.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:48:19
December 21 2008 14:41 GMT
#234
Come on klive, u can flame him for many reasons but not for being a bad commentator =/

@Damage types:
When Dustin talks about counters and shit like this that doesnt mean sc2 is rly a rock paper scissor game(at least if what i read here is right http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_types#StarCraft_II)

If he was commentating a brood war matchup he would be saying such things either way, like:
wow NaDa went vultures against SaviOr zerglings, thats definitely the right unit to do this cause vultures concussion damage pwn lings.
or.
-Boxer wraith choice really went the right units against those carriers since wraiths have bonus damage AtA.

correct me if you played sc2 already and i am wrong =/
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Wuselmops
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany346 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 14:53:40
December 21 2008 14:50 GMT
#235
On December 21 2008 23:19 SaharaDrac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 23:01 SaharaDrac wrote:
All it was was an example to show people who DON'T watch korean Starcraft VODs (read: 99% of the world) what Starcraft is like being commentated on like a sporting event. That's IT.



That was me changing the subject back to OT. The people in this thread looked at this video like it was Blizzard desperately trying to impress them, because well, hardcore nerds like us think we're the only ones people make games for. The truth however, is how I described it in the post i quoted above.


i think blizzard has made it clear that they aspire to make starcraft 2 a worthy successor to one of the biggest e-sports in the world and not some generic casual rts game. with that in mind i see nothing wrong with us "hardcore nerds" giving honest feedback during the alpha phase. along the way, some of us probably learn to improve the constructiveness of their criticism.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 21 2008 15:08 GMT
#236
The challenge is hard man.
how many revolutions, emotions, excitement, bonjwas,dicks, tricks,glitches, interation, brood war had?
star2 have a long long way to follow, the stairway to heaven is not only long but treacherous and hard
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
December 21 2008 15:16 GMT
#237
Am I the only one being thankful for them doing this in the first place (providing these "battle-reports" which obviously are a piece of PR)?

Anyways:

Still it gives us a good overview over the dynamics of the game and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. Imagine two (way) better players than these two (no offense) and other commentators (MBC/OGN style, no offense once again to Dustin Browder and co.). To me the game has a genuine feeling of SC.

I judge games based on my feeling towards it and this game seemed very decent. Yes, there are things to be fixed but then again this is only Alpha.

A lot of you have pointed out a lot of good stuff that has to be looked at again. I'm sure that Blizzard will make sure that certain fixes will be implemented.

On a sidenote, I like Xel'Naga watchtowers :p I think they add a certain strategic element to the game.
aka. Samael
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 21 2008 15:56 GMT
#238
There is nothing to elaborate. At this point any serious opinion that tried the game out said more or less it was shit.

What's more, it does look like shit.

They didn't design properly a single game since brood war.

What most of naive people are delusional about, is only that the subpar quality they're delivering is tuned a tad higher than the overall garbage released every year by all other editors.

There's really nothing to argue.

Once the game will be released, then, argue all you want.

So far, it looks, smells, feels like a piece of crap of inacurate 2D rts game in a 3D engine.

There is NOTHING new. They didnt add ANYTHING. People blasting others with the argument "its not brood war, its another game" make me laugh.

And now, to make it even better, its advertised by a band of inbreed metal fuck heads.


Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 21 2008 17:04 GMT
#239
On December 22 2008 00:56 Boonbag wrote:

There is NOTHING new. They didnt add ANYTHING.



i dont agree with ur whole post but this is tr00
instead, they took a thing from us
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 21 2008 17:15 GMT
#240
On December 22 2008 00:56 Boonbag wrote:
There is nothing to elaborate. At this point any serious opinion that tried the game out said more or less it was shit.

What's more, it does look like shit.

They didn't design properly a single game since brood war.

What most of naive people are delusional about, is only that the subpar quality they're delivering is tuned a tad higher than the overall garbage released every year by all other editors.

There's really nothing to argue.

Once the game will be released, then, argue all you want.

So far, it looks, smells, feels like a piece of crap of inacurate 2D rts game in a 3D engine.

There is NOTHING new. They didnt add ANYTHING. People blasting others with the argument "its not brood war, its another game" make me laugh.

And now, to make it even better, its advertised by a band of inbreed metal fuck heads.



Eh, literally every single person who has played the game has said it's better than WC3. Better than WC3 means it's good.

Literally every single person aside from Rekrul has said they enjoyed the game - regardless of wether they thought it was as good as BW or not.

Honestly, show me all these people saying it's shit, because I sure as hell haven't heard from them (again, aside from Rekrul writing a 1 sentence blog post saying "Star2 sucks balls").
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