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kingism
Profile Joined July 2020
25 Posts
March 27 2021 08:03 GMT
#1
Hey guys, just curious but will there ever be another balance patch? I know blizzard removed the SC team last year. Certain matchups may need some small tweaks to keep the game fun.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 27 2021 08:24 GMT
#2
I honestly don't think this employee role exists any more, so I'm guessing no... It's map balance from here on out, I believe.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
March 27 2021 08:26 GMT
#3
The Blizzard intern can only do so much. He working hard to solve the EU ladder bug. I am sure that it will be fixed in a couple of months.

You can not really demand a balance patch as well. That would require overtime and I do not think Bobby Kotick can afford to pay him extra for that.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
March 27 2021 10:55 GMT
#4
Vicarious Visions is handling SC2 (along with all the other legacy products), so there are people around that can hypothetically do it.

Cereal
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 27 2021 12:17 GMT
#5
On March 27 2021 17:03 kingism wrote:
Hey guys, just curious but will there ever be another balance patch? I know blizzard removed the SC team last year. Certain matchups may need some small tweaks to keep the game fun.


All blizzard said was that they wouldn't do a new patch before Katowice 2021. Now, all we can do is guess as to whether there will come another patch and whether they will change the ladder maps.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
March 27 2021 12:39 GMT
#6
On March 27 2021 17:24 Blargh wrote:
I honestly don't think this employee role exists any more, so I'm guessing no... It's map balance from here on out, I believe.


Are you implying we are going to get new ladder maps? That's very hopeful!
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 13:28:54
March 27 2021 13:28 GMT
#7
On March 27 2021 21:17 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2021 17:03 kingism wrote:
Hey guys, just curious but will there ever be another balance patch? I know blizzard removed the SC team last year. Certain matchups may need some small tweaks to keep the game fun.


All blizzard said was that they wouldn't do a new patch before Katowice 2021


That was before we found out that the team was disbanded/restructured though right? Realistically, what's going to happen is they may outsource map making to ESL/TLMC eventually, and they'll just keep the servers online and call it a day. We're definitely not seeing a new balance patch imo. PvZ especially may be as boring as ever but honestly it's impossible to make that matchup interesting without a major redesign of both P and Z, and that will never happen.
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Goma
Profile Joined May 2020
Germany15 Posts
March 27 2021 13:33 GMT
#8
There are still no news regarding new maps or ? There is probably no one thinking of balance changes, but I would be very happy to be wrong.
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 14:03:11
March 27 2021 14:02 GMT
#9
I'd love to be wrong but at this point SC2 balance patch may be as realistic as WarCraft 2 balance patch.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
March 27 2021 14:51 GMT
#10
Is a balance patch really needed? There is no race that dominates every tournament. Protoss may be too strong in the late game but both Terran and Zerg have plenty of chances to kill them before that. If we just look at top pro level the game seems more or less balanced.
kingism
Profile Joined July 2020
25 Posts
March 27 2021 15:03 GMT
#11
I see, so seems like its a No unfortunately.

I can find flaws in every matchup as nothing is ever perfect. Would be great to have some small changes just to spice things up a bit, since the meta seems so figured out that recent games are just very predictable, which imo is less fun for spectators.
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
875 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 15:16:17
March 27 2021 15:06 GMT
#12
the only real patch would consist to go a step behind, removing stimpack and rebalance everything around what sc2 was made, an intensive apm game.

1) they could also think to make map with long distance mining, it could be fun but Zerg favored...

2) also units hidden in bushes could provides bonus against range attacks

3) avoid multi cast with rapid-fire (add cooldown)

That s a ton of funny work
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27028 Posts
March 27 2021 15:14 GMT
#13
On March 28 2021 00:06 Vision_ wrote:
the only real patch would consist to go a step behind, removing stimpack and rebalance everything around what sc2 was made, an intensive apm game.

1) they could also think to make map with long distance mining, it could be fun but Zerg favored...

2) also ground could provides bonus to units hidden in bushes

A skeleton crew is arguably not going to be able to make minor tweaks, never mind considerable design overhauls.
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States738 Posts
March 27 2021 16:21 GMT
#14
Blizzard-Activision shanked my favorite game with the rusty knife that is the shield battery... then they pooped in the wound by buffing the voidray. Then they clapped their hands, said "My work is done here" and left.

Nowadays I pretty much just support the post-industrial Detroit that is the Broodwar scene. At least they still get new maps in the map pool each season.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
March 27 2021 16:41 GMT
#15
This is the best balance has been since before the 2017 Hydra patch so I'm at least relieved it didn't happen until now. If they had stopped balancing anytime before this we would be stuck in a never ending Zerg nightmare.
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland579 Posts
March 27 2021 17:13 GMT
#16
As far as I know they haven't said anything about who is responsible for SC2 after Team 1 was dismantled. Also I would not be surprised if everyone that were interested in RTS/SC jumped the ship with FrostGiant. Like would you join WoW, OW or D4 teams while having to run SC2 support by yourself on side. Probably not.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 17:29:52
March 27 2021 17:28 GMT
#17
On March 27 2021 19:55 InfCereal wrote:
Vicarious Visions is handling SC2 (along with all the other legacy products), so there are people around that can hypothetically do it.



Vicarious Visions is potentially allegedly involved based on that article, but it's mostly just speculation--we don't actually know who if anyone handles SCII.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 27 2021 17:29 GMT
#18
On March 27 2021 22:28 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2021 21:17 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 27 2021 17:03 kingism wrote:
Hey guys, just curious but will there ever be another balance patch? I know blizzard removed the SC team last year. Certain matchups may need some small tweaks to keep the game fun.


All blizzard said was that they wouldn't do a new patch before Katowice 2021


That was before we found out that the team was disbanded/restructured though right?


iirc, it was in the same announcement where they said they're basically shutting down the SC2 department.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 27 2021 17:35 GMT
#19
On March 28 2021 01:41 JJH777 wrote:
This is the best balance has been since before the 2017 Hydra patch so I'm at least relieved it didn't happen until now. If they had stopped balancing anytime before this we would be stuck in a never ending Zerg nightmare.

Yeah because nowadays Zergs are not winning the majority of tournaments. It's just coincidence that so many good players are zergs I mean c'mon, zergs are world champions for such a short time now.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 18:16:09
March 27 2021 18:15 GMT
#20
I quit playing after all the ZvP became mass void ray. Balance be damned, it's not a fun playstyle to face (air toss in general). All for nerfs to Z (ie. Lurkers) that get P to a (typically) ground based late game.
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