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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On October 16 2020 08:07 deacon.frost wrote: Wasn't AoE 4 announced? Considering how Microsoft handled the AoE II remaster and how Blizzard handled WC3 remaster, I am sadly glad that Blizzard has nothing in works(at least publically) and MS has. Alas it will require Win10 which I don't use currently and certainly won't in the near future, so screw me anyway. I would love some new commanders or fancy updates to the coop though, it's a fun part of the game. Also increasing the tourney budged via warchests seems cool to me, sad they stopped with this. But hey, there will be other games and they will leave the ladder on, hopefully... (this is the most worrysome thing) Blizzard has the power over the ladder/matchmaking and the map pool. Just saying that the no touch policy would mean ladder without new maps  There will be new maps and balance tweaks, but there won't be massive overhauls and unit redesigns like we had in the past. Blizzard's method for adding new maps to the game has relied on community development for a long time already. The only thing they really do there is simply pick and choose which ones to add in. They can keep doing that. Heroes of the Storm has been in maintenence mode for a long time and they still get pretty regular hero balances and reworks even if their map pool is still pretty much stuck. SC2 can keep getting new maps, it takes Blizz almost no effort to retune the map pool. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 16 2020 09:07 Wintex wrote: I think GSL is dead and that's the hidden information mr Apollo was refraining from sharing when he tweeted this: Well, hope we get AS2L in Korea then, save us Afreeca. Let's be honest, Afreeca titling current GSL Season as 'Last Stand' is a bit too foreboding. So hope not, even if Acti-Blizzard's present attitude of putting game on life support makes it obvious it should be. | ||
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Yeuox
1 Post
On October 16 2020 07:59 eviltomahawk wrote: It has been a fun decade of SC2 and its content updates. Sad to see it finally ending, especially with nothing new on the horizon in regards to RTS games. There is Spellforce 3 around, they working on a second expansion and matchmaking atm, not sure when we will get them, it's pretty fun ! and aoe4 as someone said in another comment :D | ||
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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ilax30
720 Posts
On October 16 2020 10:44 MinixTheNerd wrote: Activision Blizzards motives have been quite clear in the recent few years, they have been systematically downsizing most of the E sports divisions and tripling down on Overwatch League. The initial backlash with HGC taught them that they shouldn't just suddenly cut all funding to a league, which is probably why they signed a 3 year contract with ESL. However it is obvious that they are intending to cut all spending on SC2, this will likely mean future tournaments will field a smaller prize pool, so that organizations that are having trouble getting sponsors will either have fewer tournaments or simply reduce the number of player spots in their tournaments. Good thing the deal runs till 2023, after that the community will take over. But yes the pro player scene wont be the same | ||
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mounteast0
59 Posts
For the progamer, it is time to think about streaming. I heard (from BW and SC2 content creator video) BW pro have been making more money off streaming and donation rather than competition price pool. So may be we can see serral and maru playing day in day out instead of just in big tournament? | ||
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
On October 16 2020 10:47 mounteast0 wrote: For the non progamers and every average joe like myself, it will be good if blizzard can confirm there will be periodic map rotation. For the progamer, it is time to think about streaming. I heard (from BW and SC2 content creator video) BW pro have been making more money off streaming and donation rather than competition price pool. So may be we can see serral and maru playing day in day out instead of just in big tournament? Or maybe they just won't play anymore becauee they had earn enough, if it happens, it'll be so sad | ||
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RandomPlayer416
84 Posts
The current Blizzard is not the Blizzard that created broodwar / WoL, they just are not capable of making a great game. They never listen to the community until its too late, they give us changes nobody asks for and take months to provide any sort of update. I love starcraft but it is better off without Blizzards involvement at this point. | ||
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ilax30
720 Posts
On October 16 2020 11:23 Howard_Kao wrote: Or maybe they just won't play anymore becauee they had earn enough, if it happens, it'll be so sad Thats more likely, really doubt those guys that refuse to play 20k+ tournaments will suddenly stream everyday in 2023 just to get some donations here and there. They now have time to think about a transition, go hard for another 2 years and then go into the next chapter of their lives | ||
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
On October 16 2020 11:26 RandomPlayer416 wrote: I'll be completely honest. I dont want a Starcraft 3 if Blizzard is going to be the studio making it. The current Blizzard is not the Blizzard that created broodwar / WoL, they just are not capable of making a great game. They never listen to the community until its too late, they give us changes nobody asks for and take months to provide any sort of update. I love starcraft but it is better off without Blizzards involvement at this point. I agree, Blizzard has awful business practices, shocking writing quality when it comes to the campaign story; and a conflict of interest between balancing the game vs making it entertaining to watch. For me personally I will only be invested in sc2 content for as long as my favourite pro-gamers are active, as soon as they retire or move onto other games, then I'm basically out too. | ||
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Aesto
44 Posts
On October 16 2020 10:39 Yeuox wrote: There is Spellforce 3 around, they working on a second expansion and matchmaking atm, not sure when we will get them, it's pretty fun ! and aoe4 as someone said in another comment :D There is also Total War: Warhammer 2. There is a tournament scene, and those games tend to be amazing to watch. It is a lot more accessible than Starcraft, it also has a pretty large playerbase, and Creative Assembly is flush with cash thanks to the success of Three Kingdoms. All Total War games (but especially Three Kingdoms ofc) are very popular in China, which nowadays seems to be very helpful in getting a competitive multiplayer scene financed. So the game has a lot of potential for a healthy esports scene. The game is really only held back by its terrible ladder, especially the way the lobby works and all the laming strategies that exist in the game. All that doesn't exist in tournaments, so they tend to be great, but without a good ladder, it is hard for new people to get into it, so most just stick to singleplayer. But I feel that for TW: Warhammer 3, Creative Assembly could potentially focus on improving the multiplayer. I sort of doubt it, but it would be amazing. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Kitai
United States885 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On October 16 2020 11:55 Aesto wrote: There is also Total War: Warhammer 2. There is a tournament scene, and those games tend to be amazing to watch. It is a lot more accessible than Starcraft, it also has a pretty large playerbase, and Creative Assembly is flush with cash thanks to the success of Three Kingdoms. All Total War games (but especially Three Kingdoms ofc) are very popular in China, which nowadays seems to be very helpful in getting a competitive multiplayer scene financed. So the game has a lot of potential for a healthy esports scene. The game is really only held back by its terrible ladder, especially the way the lobby works and all the laming strategies that exist in the game. All that doesn't exist in tournaments, so they tend to be great, but without a good ladder, it is hard for new people to get into it, so most just stick to singleplayer. But I feel that for TW: Warhammer 3, Creative Assembly could potentially focus on improving the multiplayer. I sort of doubt it, but it would be amazing. Total Warhammer 2 as a competitive game is a joke. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Garbo1
49 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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AlexZhang1012
63 Posts
btw Team LP just confirmed that their contracts with Patience and Hurricane has ended on a peaceful term. Things are moving too fast. | ||
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