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On October 23 2020 13:23 jpg06051992 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 20 2020 16:50 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 08:45 [F_]aths wrote:On October 20 2020 06:46 SC-Shield wrote:
To be honest, Blizzard deserves all that comes their way. Years after years matchmaking of team games is still broken, full team vs random team is just not fair. So all that remains is an enjoyable game for 1vs1 guys. Arranged team versus random is fair as long both teams have a similar MMR. MMR isn't everything in the teamgames. Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 13:43 jpg06051992 wrote:
Hoping that the community just stays strong and doesn't let this news affect their love for the game. Starcraft as a franchise is still doing quite well. Brood War is still hugely popular and Blizzard is still going to do balance changes which lets face it, matters a hell of a lot more then nonsense like skins and war chests and whatever the hell else casual crap Blizzard thinks that they players want.
Not saying I don't think some of the skins aren't really cool, they definitely are, but as long as their are talented map makers that have a passion for the game and the community, we already know we are taken care of on that regard, this seasons map pool is absolutely freaking amazing and makes previous popular maps just look plain vanilla.
Balance isn't even in that bad of a spot, we haven't had any glaring unwinnable. "Brood Lord/Festor" era for any race for awhile now, it's pretty hard to deny that Protoss was, is and probably forever will be the weakest race at the top, and honestly that's okay, there is always one race at the bottom.
Terrans dominated the bonjwa scene for BW, but historically speaking, Terran actually performed only in the + regarding winrates vs. Zerg on Python, and Protoss was actually quite strong vs Terran on all maps but were imbalanced vs. Terran on Python.
I just hope the community keeps doing it's thing, the current tournaments are producing outstanding quality games. Why is Protoss the weakest? This should be interesting  Pretty sure Protoss has had the weakest representation on both ladder and at the tip top level of play, there has been far more Zerg and Terran champions then Protoss champions.
You might have fallen for some type of perception bias. Statistics does not confirm that claim when it comes to the ladder. Especially on the grand master level, protoss accounts make up around 40%.
https://www.rankedftw.com/stats/races/1v1/#v=2&r=0&l=4
And from al the AfreecaTV organised premier tournaments, only 6 out of 23 played in LotV had finals without a protoss competitor.
 Global StarCraft II League
I think protoss is doing ok overall.
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On October 17 2020 15:14 Noonius wrote:
this has been long time coming. Years. All the signs have been pointing to it. No one should be surprised.
Also, unless there's a colossal shift in Activision's corporate policy, there is not gonna be SC3 in foreseeable future. Yes, I said AV because there's no way Blizzard is gonna be allowed to spend massive amount of money developing a game with very niche target audience without parent company approval.
in a world without gold we might have been heroes :[
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Everything is going has expected. Perfect prédiction. Good bye Blizzard, good bye TL, may be some of you will understand one day that closing/laughing on every thread who was trying to change the game, was non productive. And there it is. Was a pleasur ++
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On October 23 2020 15:08 Exedo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2020 13:23 jpg06051992 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 20 2020 16:50 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 08:45 [F_]aths wrote:On October 20 2020 06:46 SC-Shield wrote:
To be honest, Blizzard deserves all that comes their way. Years after years matchmaking of team games is still broken, full team vs random team is just not fair. So all that remains is an enjoyable game for 1vs1 guys. Arranged team versus random is fair as long both teams have a similar MMR. MMR isn't everything in the teamgames. Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 13:43 jpg06051992 wrote:
Hoping that the community just stays strong and doesn't let this news affect their love for the game. Starcraft as a franchise is still doing quite well. Brood War is still hugely popular and Blizzard is still going to do balance changes which lets face it, matters a hell of a lot more then nonsense like skins and war chests and whatever the hell else casual crap Blizzard thinks that they players want.
Not saying I don't think some of the skins aren't really cool, they definitely are, but as long as their are talented map makers that have a passion for the game and the community, we already know we are taken care of on that regard, this seasons map pool is absolutely freaking amazing and makes previous popular maps just look plain vanilla.
Balance isn't even in that bad of a spot, we haven't had any glaring unwinnable. "Brood Lord/Festor" era for any race for awhile now, it's pretty hard to deny that Protoss was, is and probably forever will be the weakest race at the top, and honestly that's okay, there is always one race at the bottom.
Terrans dominated the bonjwa scene for BW, but historically speaking, Terran actually performed only in the + regarding winrates vs. Zerg on Python, and Protoss was actually quite strong vs Terran on all maps but were imbalanced vs. Terran on Python.
I just hope the community keeps doing it's thing, the current tournaments are producing outstanding quality games. Why is Protoss the weakest? This should be interesting Pretty sure Protoss has had the weakest representation on both ladder and at the tip top level of play, there has been far more Zerg and Terran champions then Protoss champions. You might have fallen for some type of perception bias. Statistics does not confirm that claim when it comes to the ladder. Especially on the grand master level, protoss accounts make up around 40%. https://www.rankedftw.com/stats/races/1v1/#v=2&r=0&l=4And from al the AfreecaTV organised premier tournaments, only 6 out of 23 played in LotV had finals without a protoss competitor. Global StarCraft II LeagueI think protoss is doing ok overall.
Apologies, I was mistaken, thanks for posting that info 
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On October 25 2020 23:43 OG-Anoss wrote:
Everything is going has expected. Perfect prédiction. Good bye Blizzard, good bye TL, may be some of you will understand one day that closing/laughing on every thread who was trying to change the game, was non productive. And there it is. Was a pleasur ++
Calm down mate, sc2 is far from dead. But it looks like you just ant to prove your point which is ironic as you are on a throwaway acount
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Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue??
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On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue??
Yea I'm wondering the same thing :O
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On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue??
TSL6 yes please!
Not sure why everyone seems so grim. Worst case is we have two more wonderful years of Starcraft 2.
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Coop is pretty much the only game mode i enjoy playing anymore. Was really hoping for one more blizzcon content patch- new commander and/or map. Now all i can hope for is that they at least decide to fix the bugs their last/final patch created. might be too much to ask for tho -.-
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On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue??
Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money.
What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long.
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On November 05 2020 01:41 algue wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue?? Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money. What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long.
Python and Fighting Spirit would like to have a word with you
On a more serious note, I'd gladly contribute 5 or 10 dollars to make say, a public funded map making contest
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 05 2020 02:01 jpg06051992 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 01:41 algue wrote:On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue?? Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money. What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long. Python and Fighting Spirit would like to have a word with you On a more serious note, I'd gladly contribute 5 or 10 dollars to make say, a public funded map making contest
You still have to pay for a license for a tournament over 9999 USD, don't ya? So it isn't as happy and dandy as it sounds.
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On November 05 2020 02:31 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 02:01 jpg06051992 wrote:On November 05 2020 01:41 algue wrote:On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue?? Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money. What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long. Python and Fighting Spirit would like to have a word with you On a more serious note, I'd gladly contribute 5 or 10 dollars to make say, a public funded map making contest You still have to pay for a license for a tournament over 9999 USD, don't ya? So it isn't as happy and dandy as it sounds.
It costs 10 grand to make a publicly funded contest for a video game?
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:03 jpg06051992 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 02:31 deacon.frost wrote:On November 05 2020 02:01 jpg06051992 wrote:On November 05 2020 01:41 algue wrote:On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue?? Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money. What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long. Python and Fighting Spirit would like to have a word with you On a more serious note, I'd gladly contribute 5 or 10 dollars to make say, a public funded map making contest You still have to pay for a license for a tournament over 9999 USD, don't ya? So it isn't as happy and dandy as it sounds. It costs 10 grand to make a publicly funded contest for a video game?
Nah, but if you wanna do a tournament with a prize pool with 10k or more, you have to buy a license(I don't know the cost of the license, but from the talks around it I would guess it's not exactly cheap). I trust in this community that we would be able to create such tournament once in a while.
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United Kingdom20284 Posts
On November 05 2020 02:31 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 02:01 jpg06051992 wrote:On November 05 2020 01:41 algue wrote:On October 26 2020 07:04 MinesMakeWidows wrote:
Just wondering if TL sponsored events such as the TSL or the TL map contest are going to continue?? Honestly the esport side of starcraft isn't what worries me the most. Starcraft will always be competitive even if there's literally 0 money in it. Lots of people just enjoy laddering and climbing ranks. You'll always find people who want to play in weekly cups even if there $0 prize money. What worries me the most is that the community, the people who still care and aren't in it for the money, have absolutely 0 control over the ladder experience. Starcraft 2 has been out for 10 years and there is still no realistic way to make a popular melee map if that map isn't on the Ladder. Blizzard never really cared much about the map pool for some reasons but now it's going to be even worse and we may end up forced to play on the same 7 maps forever. This is pretty much a fast track to the game's demise (and it always has been imo). Even the most hardcore fans won't enjoy playing the game on the same maps for very long. Python and Fighting Spirit would like to have a word with you On a more serious note, I'd gladly contribute 5 or 10 dollars to make say, a public funded map making contest You still have to pay for a license for a tournament over 9999 USD, don't ya? So it isn't as happy and dandy as it sounds.
Time to make a weekly 9999 USD tournament
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