• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:36
CEST 14:36
KST 21:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo16Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16?
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8945 users

No new War Chests or Co-op Commanders going forward - Oct…

Forum Index > SC2 General
214 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
We understand that this kind of news can be upsetting to the TL and SC2 community. However, we encourage everyone to voice their opinion on the matter without doing any of the following:

- Posting "daed gaem" comments
- Posting low content meme comments
- Posting about violence and/or death upon Activision Blizzard and their people
- Insulting and/or flaming each other because of differing views on what this announcement means for the future of SC2

TL has always prided itself on the fact that it doesn't function like other gaming forums. We don't resort to snide comments induced by rage and anger. We hold mature and level-headed discussions because we hold ourselves to a higher standard than the average teenager-level social media post. Let's all keep that in mind so that this thread doesn't devolve into a shit-fest.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33629 Posts
October 15 2020 22:41 GMT
#1
Source Post: Blizzard


To the StarCraft community,

StarCraft is one of a kind, and we’re committed to making sure that those of you who love this universe like we do have a home here for many years to come. With that in mind, we want to let you know about a development change we’re making for StarCraft II as we continue supporting it for the long-term.

As many of you know, Blizzard continues updating its games long after the initial release—some of you will remember that we were actively patching the original StarCraft more than 10 years after it first hit store shelves. This year we celebrated 10 years of StarCraft II with one of our largest-ever patches, with massive updates to the editor, Prestige Talents for Co-op Commanders, and gameplay improvements delivered to players worldwide.

We’re going to continue supporting StarCraft II in the same manner as we have with our previous longstanding games, such as Brood War, focusing primarily on what our core and competitive communities care about most. What this means is that we’re not going to be producing additional for-purchase content, such as Commanders and War Chests, but we will continue doing season rolls and necessary balance fixes moving forward. On that last note, we’re not planning a Q4 balance update given that we did one a few months ago, but as always, we do plan to continue doing them as needed in the future. StarCraft II esports, which is part of the highest echelon of professional competitive gaming, will also continue going strong as it has been through our partners ESL Gaming and GSL.

We know some of our players have been looking forward to some of the things we’re moving away from, but the good news is this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

StarCraft is core to Blizzard, and we’ve learned that it’s a game that can change the lives of people who devote themselves to it, whether as a player, content creator, streamer, or member of the community (or developer). The outcome of each match is in your hands 100%. To become better, you have to look inward, be honest about any flaws, and dedicate yourself to improving. StarCraft teaches us that that process of improvement can be a reward in itself, and it’s certainly taught us a lot at Blizzard over the years.

You are one of the most passionate, creative, and dedicated communities in all of gaming. We’re eternally grateful for your ongoing support, and we’ll keep you updated on any and all plans we have for future voyages into the Koprulu Sector.

Uhn dara ma'nakai,

Rob Bridenbecker
Facebook Twitter Reddit
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
October 15 2020 22:43 GMT
#2
F
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
October 15 2020 22:53 GMT
#3
T_T
All good things come to an end!
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
October 15 2020 22:57 GMT
#4
Welcome to Maintenance Mode, StarCraft II. It was inevitable, but it still hurts a bit.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2270 Posts
October 15 2020 22:57 GMT
#5
Sounds like a bunch of bla bla with bad news exclusively all around
Cogito, ergo Toss
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 02:43:37
October 15 2020 22:59 GMT
#6
It has been a fun decade of SC2 and its content updates. Sad to see it finally ending, especially with nothing new on the horizon in regards to RTS games.

edit: nothing new in terms of Blizzard RTS games. I think AoE4 will be a big release, and there's a good handful of stuff coming from indie and AA developers.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
CatheadSC2
Profile Joined September 2020
26 Posts
October 15 2020 23:05 GMT
#7
This just means SC2 can finally enter the glorious post-Blizzard era, so they can stop screwing the meta up and things can actually develop.

I know they're still saying "don't worry we'll do balance patches" but I hope they just stop. We wouldn't have half the story lines we do in BW if they had continued patching based on competitive results.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-15 23:10:16
October 15 2020 23:07 GMT
#8
On October 16 2020 07:59 eviltomahawk wrote:
It has been a fun decade of SC2 and its content updates. Sad to see it finally ending, especially with nothing new on the horizon in regards to RTS games.

Wasn't AoE 4 announced?

Considering how Microsoft handled the AoE II remaster and how Blizzard handled WC3 remaster, I am sadly glad that Blizzard has nothing in works(at least publically) and MS has. Alas it will require Win10 which I don't use currently and certainly won't in the near future, so screw me anyway.

I would love some new commanders or fancy updates to the coop though, it's a fun part of the game. Also increasing the tourney budged via warchests seems cool to me, sad they stopped with this.

But hey, there will be other games and they will leave the ladder on, hopefully... (this is the most worrysome thing)

On October 16 2020 08:05 CatheadSC2 wrote:
This just means SC2 can finally enter the glorious post-Blizzard era, so they can stop screwing the meta up and things can actually develop.

I know they're still saying "don't worry we'll do balance patches" but I hope they just stop. We wouldn't have half the story lines we do in BW if they had continued patching based on competitive results.

Blizzard has the power over the ladder/matchmaking and the map pool. Just saying that the no touch policy would mean ladder without new maps
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
mochisa
Profile Joined October 2020
3 Posts
October 15 2020 23:16 GMT
#9
--- Nuked ---
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 15 2020 23:16 GMT
#10
No new Starcraft content to buy is unfortunate. Maintenance mode is not bad though, at least they aren’t shutting down servers.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
October 15 2020 23:27 GMT
#11
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Source Post: Blizzard


this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

Rob Bridenbecker


Starcraft 3?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
October 15 2020 23:40 GMT
#12
Thanks for the update!
claybones
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States244 Posts
October 15 2020 23:45 GMT
#13
On October 16 2020 08:27 PresenceSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Source Post: Blizzard


this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

Rob Bridenbecker


Starcraft 3?

More like "Please don't be angry"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
October 15 2020 23:46 GMT
#14
On October 16 2020 08:27 PresenceSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Source Post: Blizzard


this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

Rob Bridenbecker


Starcraft 3?

I hope this means SC3. I worry they will try to use the universe with a new genre or blend genres elimiating the pure rts aspect of it. That being said, Id love for a rts blended with moba. Like co-op commanders fighting each other where one player controls the army and mining while 4 other players control heroes. The heroes can help clear areas for expansions and defend them.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Cinskywind1
Profile Joined October 2016
19 Posts
October 15 2020 23:50 GMT
#15
This is sad news. The new co-ops and Warchests were events I looked forward and was happy to support the game, but guess the 10 year patch did add a lot.

My only concern is that part of the Warchest was used to fund the prizepool for events. I know ESL is still running for another two years but with no more income from Warchest or Co-op and the game now free to play, it doesn't make sense for them to keep pumping money into the Esports side right?

I wish I could say I was hopefully for the next stage, but honestly it kinda feels like the waving of a little white flag from what's left of the Blizzard of old. Thanks for everything Blizzard has done.

Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 15 2020 23:51 GMT
#16
I'm haven't bought any of the commanders or war chests...but it's still sad to see given what this means for SC2. I'm guessing they intended Blizzcon to provide one last hurrah, but there it is.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10751 Posts
October 15 2020 23:53 GMT
#17
Interesting, I guess now is a good time to start playing the Commander CO-OP missions lol.

StarCraft 3 or World Of StarCraft incoming!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 00:02:59
October 15 2020 23:56 GMT
#18
Did we just get HotS'd?
This basically confirms to me that Blizzard wanted to kill off WCS this year, but ESL stepped in to take care of it. Blizzard really has no idea how to run an esport.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 00:03:05
October 16 2020 00:00 GMT
#19
The one thing I worry about is the future of esports.

I was a writer for Heroes of the Storm. Blizzard said in Novemeber at BlizzCon that they would support the scene and were excited about the future of the HGC. On december, a month later, they announced they were done with Heroes Esports and Casters, Pro-gamers, Tech people, production, and writers lost their job overnight.


I think I read GSL has a contract until 2021 (I think), what happens after that? No more GSL?

Blizzard can, and has, killed esports scenes in a blim. Surely community tournaments would follow but...wouldn't be the same.

I worry about that and the ladder map pool, please implement new maps.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
October 16 2020 00:03 GMT
#20
On October 16 2020 09:00 [Phantom] wrote:
The one thing I worry about is the future of esports.

i think I read GSL has a contract until 2021 (I think), what happens after that? No more GSL?

I was a writer for Heroes of the Storm. Blizzard said on BlizzCon that they would support the scene in November. December 20 they announced they were done with Heroes Esports and Casters, Progamers, Tech people, Writers, etc lost their job overnight.

Blizzard can, and has, killed esports scenes in a blim. Surely community tournaments would follow but...wouldn't be the same.

I worry about that and the ladder map pool, please implement new maps.


Hold on, that's glancing over a HUGE amount of differences.
Everyone, and I mean everyone at BlizzCon that year for Heroes knew shit was going down. No one was getting contracts or any details. They kept being told "it's still being planned" or something.

Blizzard made no commitments or had any contracts for anyone past that year, whereas in SC2 that DH contract is good for 2 more years.

It's an entirely different situation.
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
12:00
GSL CK #4 - Day 2
Maru vs ReynorLIVE!
Lambo vs Solar
SHIN 1011
CranKy Ducklings SOOP256
Rex41
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Playoffs
WardiTV947
TaKeTV 453
TKL 357
IntoTheiNu 301
IndyStarCraft 182
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 1011
TKL 357
IndyStarCraft 182
trigger 57
Rex 41
MindelVK 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37271
Mini 1416
Horang2 955
Hyuk 847
firebathero 538
EffOrt 481
Soulkey 413
actioN 281
Last 209
Light 130
[ Show more ]
Pusan 126
NaDa 119
Mong 82
Free 46
Movie 40
Sea.KH 40
JulyZerg 38
sorry 37
GoRush 22
Sharp 20
Hm[arnc] 18
yabsab 17
Shine 16
HiyA 14
Noble 13
Bale 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Icarus 1
Dota 2
Gorgc6506
XcaliburYe266
Fuzer 169
Counter-Strike
x6flipin543
Sick320
kRYSTAL_16
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor150
Other Games
B2W.Neo889
Happy317
DeMusliM304
Pyrionflax293
Hui .245
XlorD156
Grubby53
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream4906
Other Games
gamesdonequick667
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 35
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH264
• Response 4
• iHatsuTV 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota265
Upcoming Events
IPSL
3h 24m
Hawk vs Julia
Patches Events
4h 24m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6h 24m
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
11h 24m
WardiTV Weekly
22h 24m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
[ Show More ]
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.