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We understand that this kind of news can be upsetting to the TL and SC2 community. However, we encourage everyone to voice their opinion on the matter without doing any of the following:

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- Insulting and/or flaming each other because of differing views on what this announcement means for the future of SC2

TL has always prided itself on the fact that it doesn't function like other gaming forums. We don't resort to snide comments induced by rage and anger. We hold mature and level-headed discussions because we hold ourselves to a higher standard than the average teenager-level social media post. Let's all keep that in mind so that this thread doesn't devolve into a shit-fest.
mochisa
Profile Joined October 2020
3 Posts
October 16 2020 00:04 GMT
#21
--- Nuked ---
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 16 2020 00:07 GMT
#22
I think GSL is dead and that's the hidden information mr Apollo was refraining from sharing when he tweeted this:


Well, hope we get AS2L in Korea then, save us Afreeca.
The Bomber boy
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
October 16 2020 00:14 GMT
#23
This is so sad
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25078 Posts
October 16 2020 00:21 GMT
#24
Argh.

Confusing to me really. Propping up an eSports scene in perpetuity is one thing, eventually that’ll end sure.

New skins and content like sound packs especially tied to supporting tournaments isn’t a huge investment to return ratio.

Ok I don’t have the numbers to hand but just instinctually that would seem to be plausible.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
October 16 2020 00:24 GMT
#25
On October 16 2020 08:46 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2020 08:27 PresenceSc2 wrote:
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Source Post: Blizzard


this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

Rob Bridenbecker


Starcraft 3?

I hope this means SC3. I worry they will try to use the universe with a new genre or blend genres elimiating the pure rts aspect of it. That being said, Id love for a rts blended with moba. Like co-op commanders fighting each other where one player controls the army and mining while 4 other players control heroes. The heroes can help clear areas for expansions and defend them.


Dreamhaven should continue the SC legacy and Blizzard should denounce it since well Blizzard has lost its soul and it should just be renamed Activision.


followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
October 16 2020 00:26 GMT
#26
Shouldnt wc4 be in line before sc3? Both ways i hope theyll make something or rts genre will be dead.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16689 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 00:33:39
October 16 2020 00:27 GMT
#27
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Rob Bridenbecker

who?

On October 16 2020 09:07 Wintex wrote:
I think GSL is dead and that's the hidden information mr Apollo was refraining from sharing when he tweeted this:

good insight.

On October 16 2020 09:14 washikie wrote:
This is so sad

seeing as Blizzard is a US company founded by Americans and based upon American principles...

"so bye bye miss american pie... drove my chevy to the levy but the levy was dry...them good ole' boys are drinking whiskey and rye singing this'll be the day that i die..."



it was a great, wild, long ride...
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 16 2020 00:27 GMT
#28
Not surprised. Although it kinda sketches to read about Blizzard's record revenue year follow by massive layoffs, office shutdowns, and shelving games. Blizzard is that max-ed out Terran player that no longer needs scvs and can afford to just lay off all their workers in favor of mule spam.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25078 Posts
October 16 2020 00:35 GMT
#29
On October 16 2020 09:24 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2020 08:46 BisuDagger wrote:
On October 16 2020 08:27 PresenceSc2 wrote:
On October 16 2020 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Source Post: Blizzard


this change will free us up to think about what’s next, not just with regard to StarCraft II, but for the StarCraft universe as a whole.

Rob Bridenbecker


Starcraft 3?

I hope this means SC3. I worry they will try to use the universe with a new genre or blend genres elimiating the pure rts aspect of it. That being said, Id love for a rts blended with moba. Like co-op commanders fighting each other where one player controls the army and mining while 4 other players control heroes. The heroes can help clear areas for expansions and defend them.


Dreamhaven should continue the SC legacy and Blizzard should denounce it since well Blizzard has lost its soul and it should just be renamed Activision.



Valve should make the next top tier RTS title.

I’m convinced SC2 was only as big as it was because it was a Blizzard game, with all that entails (or entailed depending on how pessimistic one is). Plus you had a generation of RTS veterans looking a new title.

Even if SC3 starts development tomorrow, chances are I’m closer to 40 than 30 when it comes out.

I think RTS’ chance to make a big splash in today’s market depends almost entirely on a huge company with a great track record and community goodwill putting one out, that is PC focused. Which is who these days?

I think AoE4 may well be a great game for example, will it inject new life into the genre? I can see a potentially fantastic game populated by folks who’ve played RTS games historically and want their fix, but will it branch wider?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
October 16 2020 00:36 GMT
#30
Excited to see what happens they do a balance patch and you can't make custom lobbies because they broke something, doubt it'll get fixed as "fast" as the last time it happened lmao
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 01:50:30
October 16 2020 00:46 GMT
#31
I've been saying for ages:

"Guys be aware of this fake balance updates, it's just new content for excitement to lure people in the game."

"Guys focus on true balance and self sustainability of the game because soon or later Blizzard will pull the plug and the game will have to grow up and sustain itself"

And here we go... panic will be the main reaction now
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
October 16 2020 00:46 GMT
#32
Well, I think this is the end of Starcraft as a "relevant" game. SC2 just doesn't have the same legs as Brood War.

SC2 tournaments will still happen, but I can't imagine the playerbase grows. We've had a good run.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Aesto
Profile Joined September 2014
44 Posts
October 16 2020 00:51 GMT
#33
This doesn't seem to change much for the core of the SC2 community that only cares about 1vs1 multiplayer. In 10 years, I haven't paid for any DLC content even once, and I still haven't even tried co-op or whatever other features there may be.

And the bit about esports doesn't explicitly confirm, but at least imply that GSL will still be around.
StarCraft II esports, which is part of the highest echelon of professional competitive gaming, will also continue going strong as it has been through our partners ESL Gaming and GSL.

I can only speak for myself, but that's all I really want from this game.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
October 16 2020 00:51 GMT
#34
On October 16 2020 09:27 phodacbiet wrote:
Not surprised. Although it kinda sketches to read about Blizzard's record revenue year follow by massive layoffs, office shutdowns, and shelving games. Blizzard is that max-ed out Terran player that no longer needs scvs and can afford to just lay off all their workers in favor of mule spam.

Well if this isn't apt comparison. This is scripture right here.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 16 2020 00:51 GMT
#35
This was inevitable but SC2 will survive for a while yet.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
October 16 2020 00:54 GMT
#36
On October 16 2020 09:51 Aesto wrote:
This doesn't seem to change much for the core of the SC2 community that only cares about 1vs1 multiplayer. In 10 years, I haven't paid for any DLC content even once, and I still haven't even tried co-op or whatever other features there may be.

And the bit about esports doesn't explicitly confirm, but at least imply that GSL will still be around.
Show nested quote +
StarCraft II esports, which is part of the highest echelon of professional competitive gaming, will also continue going strong as it has been through our partners ESL Gaming and GSL.

I can only speak for myself, but that's all I really want from this game.

"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
October 16 2020 00:56 GMT
#37
On October 16 2020 07:59 eviltomahawk wrote:
It has been a fun decade of SC2 and its content updates. Sad to see it finally ending, especially with nothing new on the horizon in regards to RTS games.

The insane grow of BW in korea feels quite new (or refreshing) to me
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
her0craft
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-16 01:00:13
October 16 2020 00:57 GMT
#38
On October 16 2020 09:04 mochisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2020 08:56 Solar424 wrote:
Did we just get HotS'd?
This basically confirms to me that Blizzard wanted to kill off WCS this year, but ESL stepped in to take care of it. Blizzard really has no idea how to run an esport.

HotS'd? The community didnt support HGC and they decided to shut it down. Just a logical decision



you would think that people who regularly get poo pooed on by other gaming communities as a dead game would be more fair to the HGC to rather than stoop down to the same level.

The HGC had the same amount amount or more viewers than the GSL, WoW esports, and WAY more than the Hearthstone esports, on a regular basis.

LOL would not be surprised if the letter writers name is a pseudonym for the infamous J Allen Brack. It feels like only WoW related games and Overwatch received Blizzard's blessings after his reign of terror began.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
October 16 2020 01:08 GMT
#39
3 more years, lets make the most of them guys!
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
October 16 2020 01:08 GMT
#40
To be fair, expecting people to keep paying money for things like "skins" is not a stable model for a gaming business.
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