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NationWars 2019: Ro16 Group B & D Previews

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capacityex
Profile Joined June 2019
27 Posts
November 11 2019 20:29 GMT
#11
what? is this still going on? way to make an sc tournie completely irrelevant and void of any excitement i love sc but this delay and time frame has me actually not caring one little bit. How?? i watch all the starcraft, its all good. . . but this i dont even want to bother. Please guys come on. It was like this last year. Just schedule the whole god damn event over a few days surely you can crowd fund it we are quite the passionate bunch.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-11 21:27:34
November 11 2019 20:41 GMT
#12
On November 12 2019 02:51 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2019 02:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This is a pretty wild preview with political references and shots fired at players left and right. A bit unfortunate that O'Gaming hasn't announced anything about the patch.

Per the handbook:
Version of the game played

The tournament StarCraft II: NationWars 2019, organized by Alt Tab Productions, is played on StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void. The latest version (patch) will be used during the tournament. Each player must have a personal account.

https://nationwars.tv/handbook


Praise Aeromi aka the only man in esport who make a clear rulebook
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 11 2019 21:22 GMT
#13
On November 12 2019 05:29 capacityex wrote:
what? is this still going on? way to make an sc tournie completely irrelevant and void of any excitement i love sc but this delay and time frame has me actually not caring one little bit. How?? i watch all the starcraft, its all good. . . but this i dont even want to bother. Please guys come on. It was like this last year. Just schedule the whole god damn event over a few days surely you can crowd fund it we are quite the passionate bunch.

So GSL is completly irrelevant, because it s not a weekender? Com on, your Argument isn t realy making sense here. I gues they had to figure a lot with the schedule of WESG, ST2, Chines Team Leagues, HSC20 and BlizzCon
MaxPax
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-11 23:39:43
November 11 2019 23:35 GMT
#14
I definitely agree that South Korea and Germany are the favorites of their respective groups. I think I favor Neeb over anyone in the Netherlands though. Mexico/China is probably the most even matchup in any of these groups, but I give the edge to China considering how well some of them have been playing in the recent team leagues (and TIME played some really impressive games against Serral/Maru in the global finals). SpeCial is awesome, but I think TIME cancels out his awesomeness and the rest of the Chinese team outweighs the rest of the Mexican team. I predict SK/USA and Germany/China.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 12 2019 01:02 GMT
#15
TIME for the Future
Year of MaxPax
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
November 12 2019 01:08 GMT
#16
Cyan and ia they are surely the best of their race in China, and their popularity in China is really due to their performance upon other players.
Korean team is really a GOAT team but hard to tell if they are good enough now adays, it seems that fantasy would probably out perform Inno with the all kill over dark's team in the BJ destruction match. Also a wired thing that many of Korean's "A team" player never kind of sign up ever
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 01:40:08
November 12 2019 01:28 GMT
#17
I think this is a little too negative on Korea—I'd say this is a B+ team if not quite an A-team. Having two players who were in blizzcon prep mode surely has to count for something here, even if INnoVation's form is growing ever more erratic as of late....
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
November 12 2019 03:38 GMT
#18
If I remember correctly Inno, Stats and soO are actually the only three Korean players to have beaten Serral on LAN this year... coincidence?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19328 Posts
November 12 2019 08:21 GMT
#19
On November 12 2019 02:25 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
It’s an untested and untried roster, and it certainly could use a third player with more competitive credit than MCanning...

Wow shots fired. It's like the TL writers don't know that MCanning only plays Protoss to show the community how the undeniably weakest race should be played, and that his Zerg is reputed to be 7.6k MMR on KR. Such uncalled-for disrespect

I really like MCanning, but isn't the writer technically correct based on exactly what you replied with. By not playing his best race possible, isn't he being anti-competitive for the sake of making a statement over getting as many wins as possible?

I'm not saying you are wrong with your reply, but there is a little irony with the fact you stated lol.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 12 2019 08:27 GMT
#20
On November 12 2019 10:28 Waxangel wrote:
I think this is a little too negative on Korea—I'd say this is a B+ team if not quite an A-team. Having two players who were in blizzcon prep mode surely has to count for something here, even if INnoVation's form is growing ever more erratic as of late....

I didn't think of ranking with + and -, but yeah, B+ is a good compromise and fits well with what I'm thinking about this team. It's just that these guys' peaks this year are so far away already, it's hard to think of them as first choices if you could choose between all Korean players.

On November 12 2019 12:38 yht9657 wrote:
If I remember correctly Inno, Stats and soO are actually the only three Korean players to have beaten Serral on LAN this year... coincidence?

I mean, playing international events these days the odds are pretty high you meet Serral on the way to the finals/in the finals, so to win those events you'd have to beat him. So, does that count as coincidence? :D
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 12 2019 09:58 GMT
#21
On November 12 2019 03:37 DieuCure wrote:
Still no information about the offline venue ?

Yeah I'd happily come back (well it's not in the same place as 2018 but you get the idea) for an offline Nation Wars experience if it's possible.

I'm not sure if I agree with the prediction though, Netherlands sure has two strong players and USA "only" 1 (although Future is not too far from Harstem/uThermal level this year) but Neeb is very strong and ace players usually carry in Nation Wars.
Hopefully South Korea gets through and INno performs well. Even if it's on the bad patch he should be able to beat anyone here.

About which patch it's played on, I dunno if it was clear for the public, but from watching players streams they know very well that it's on current patch so don't worry (for example HM said he didn't practice test mod because Nation Wars is on the current patch)
WriterMaru
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 12 2019 16:37 GMT
#22
Thanks for the spicy writeup. Looking forward to see if Inno and soO suck as much as has been indicated
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 12 2019 16:39 GMT
#23
On November 13 2019 01:37 sneakyfox wrote:
Thanks for the spicy writeup. Looking forward to see if Inno and soO suck as much as has been indicated

I really hope they don't and prove me very wrong.
... after being the only one to correctly predict Dark winning BlizzCon I have some credit again that I can gamble away... :D
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 12 2019 16:41 GMT
#24
On November 13 2019 01:39 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 01:37 sneakyfox wrote:
Thanks for the spicy writeup. Looking forward to see if Inno and soO suck as much as has been indicated

I really hope they don't and prove me very wrong.
... after being the only one to correctly predict Dark winning BlizzCon I have some credit again that I can gamble away... :D


Well you still predicted them to advance. A real gambling man would have gone all-in and picked Ukraine to win it
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 12 2019 16:54 GMT
#25
On November 12 2019 18:58 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2019 03:37 DieuCure wrote:
Still no information about the offline venue ?

Yeah I'd happily come back (well it's not in the same place as 2018 but you get the idea) for an offline Nation Wars experience if it's possible.

I'm not sure if I agree with the prediction though, Netherlands sure has two strong players and USA "only" 1 (although Future is not too far from Harstem/uThermal level this year) but Neeb is very strong and ace players usually carry in Nation Wars.
Hopefully South Korea gets through and INno performs well. Even if it's on the bad patch he should be able to beat anyone here.

About which patch it's played on, I dunno if it was clear for the public, but from watching players streams they know very well that it's on current patch so don't worry (for example HM said he didn't practice test mod because Nation Wars is on the current patch)

It will be played from O'Gaming studio, we are still working on something to invite people.
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MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
November 12 2019 17:00 GMT
#26
Fantasy seems to be doing great at the moment, especially in team leagues lol.

I am expecting him to ownnnnnnn today :D
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 12 2019 17:07 GMT
#27
On November 13 2019 02:00 MrShankly wrote:
Fantasy seems to be doing great at the moment, especially in team leagues lol.

I am expecting him to ownnnnnnn today :D

Fanta is only their replacement player though, so unless one of Inno/Stats/soO falls ill or something, he won't actually play.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
November 12 2019 17:17 GMT
#28
On November 12 2019 17:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2019 02:25 yubo56 wrote:
It’s an untested and untried roster, and it certainly could use a third player with more competitive credit than MCanning...

Wow shots fired. It's like the TL writers don't know that MCanning only plays Protoss to show the community how the undeniably weakest race should be played, and that his Zerg is reputed to be 7.6k MMR on KR. Such uncalled-for disrespect

I really like MCanning, but isn't the writer technically correct based on exactly what you replied with. By not playing his best race possible, isn't he being anti-competitive for the sake of making a statement over getting as many wins as possible?

I'm not saying you are wrong with your reply, but there is a little irony with the fact you stated lol.

Hahaha, damn you got me, can't sneak anything past BD these days

Live rn, hype hype!
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 12 2019 17:23 GMT
#29
Improvised LR thread for the Ro16 here: https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552769-nationwars-2019-ro16-thread
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
November 13 2019 02:08 GMT
#30
The consensus says inno is A team and Maru B team that explains it all
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