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On October 08 2019 16:11 bObA wrote:
I am a terran player so I would like there is Ty in the final 8, but that will not be fair and really frustrating for Classic if he cannot attend Blizzcon after such an impressive year.
Hope he will get a special delay again.
He knew it though.
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Bullshit analogue.
Today I played two games of chess against the only guy who play the game against me in a local pub. I was better, 2-0.
In chess I'm 'bronze', totally regardless of 1000+ hours of watching chess matches between guys who really know what they are doing.
Watching Dark makes me feel 'Bronze' when I put my perception to sensible ratio with my perception about Serral. And I cannot delude that impression no matter what I do.
For everything to be right under the sun, I only pray that Ro4 of Blisscon (pun intented) will be:
Reynor vs Dark
Serral vs Rogue
All other ZvZ match ups will be equally ok, tho. It would be good for the game, and for the scene that would happen. And we all would see best quality competition ever.
I'll soon give a pawn per game handicap in a pub matches only for someone playing against me. And I'm bad, really bad, but because I've been watching some best chess online, I can avoid most stupid mistakes.
SC2 Ladder dudes cannot.
In SC2, Its impossible to be racist when you can just freely change your race.
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On October 09 2019 03:39 UnLarva wrote:
Bullshit analogue.
Today I played two games of chess against the only guy who play the game against me in a local pub. I was better, 2-0.
In chess I'm 'bronze', totally regardless of 1000+ hours of watching chess matches between guys who really know what they are doing.
Watching Dark makes me feel 'Bronze' when I put my perception to sensible ratio with my perception about Serral. And I cannot delude that impression no matter what I do.
For everything to be right under the sun, I only pray that Ro4 of Blisscon (pun intented) will be:
Reynor vs Dark
Serral vs Rogue
All other ZvZ match ups will be equally ok, tho. It would be good for the game, and for the scene that would happen. And we all would see best quality competition ever.
I'll soon give a pawn per game handicap in a pub matches only for someone playing against me. And I'm bad, really bad, but because I've been watching some best chess online, I can avoid most stupid mistakes.
SC2 Ladder dudes cannot.
In SC2, Its impossible to be racist when you can just freely change your race.
Wtf lol
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On October 09 2019 05:20 TentativePanda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 03:39 UnLarva wrote:
Bullshit analogue.
Today I played two games of chess against the only guy who play the game against me in a local pub. I was better, 2-0.
In chess I'm 'bronze', totally regardless of 1000+ hours of watching chess matches between guys who really know what they are doing.
Watching Dark makes me feel 'Bronze' when I put my perception to sensible ratio with my perception about Serral. And I cannot delude that impression no matter what I do.
For everything to be right under the sun, I only pray that Ro4 of Blisscon (pun intented) will be:
Reynor vs Dark
Serral vs Rogue
All other ZvZ match ups will be equally ok, tho. It would be good for the game, and for the scene that would happen. And we all would see best quality competition ever.
I'll soon give a pawn per game handicap in a pub matches only for someone playing against me. And I'm bad, really bad, but because I've been watching some best chess online, I can avoid most stupid mistakes.
SC2 Ladder dudes cannot.
In SC2, Its impossible to be racist when you can just freely change your race. Wtf lol
LMAO
GTFO! 
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Here is the lineup if Classic is allowed to go:
Dark, SpeCial, soO, ShoWTimE
Serral, Maru, TIME, Stats
Trap, Neeb, Rogue, Elazer
Reynor, Classic, HeRoMaRinE, herO
The second group is truly the group of death to end all group of deaths.
And if Classic is denied the groups are:
Dark, SpeCial, Rogue, ShoWTimE
Serral, soO, TIME, TY
Trap, Neeb, herO, Elazer
Reynor, Maru, HeRoMaRinE, Stats
That’s so much better for those three right 😂
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France12806 Posts
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/
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On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/
It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats.
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France12806 Posts
On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats.
I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral).
So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here.
Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully
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On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/
Neither HeroM or Time are a match for Maru in TvT. Only TY and INno can say they are
And the difference between Reynor and Serral is astronomical when it comes to not ZvZ (if Serral's in form there's a massive difference even in ZvZ as well).
Reynor beating Clem and Marinelord isn't much when those guys are barely relevant even in the foreign terran scene.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On October 11 2019 19:51 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats. I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral). So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here. Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully
No Reynor result indicates otherwise, he has issues with foreign Protoss/Terran, we're talking about Maru and Stats. It's up to them to screw it up and lose the Reynor.
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On October 11 2019 22:58 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ Neither HeroM or Time are a match for Maru in TvT. Only TY and INno can say they are
Inno's TvT isn't even that great, he just knows 50% of beating Maru is in scouting the proxy rax.
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France12806 Posts
On October 11 2019 23:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 19:51 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats. I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral). So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here. Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully No Reynor result indicates otherwise, he has issues with foreign Protoss/Terran, we're talking about Maru and Stats. It's up to them to screw it up and lose the Reynor.
http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
Is that what having issues with foreign terrans looks like for you? o_o
He looks very potent in the matchup results wise.
In ZvP (http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=p&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=) he looks a bit more shaky but still able to beat top protoss.
So I maintain Maru / Stats are only slightly favored against Reynor, and it would not be that surprising to see them lose to him in bo5.
I'd gladly be proven wrong in BlizzCon with Maru beating him hard but I think it won't be as easy as in WCG.
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On October 11 2019 23:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 22:58 Fango wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ Neither HeroM or Time are a match for Maru in TvT. Only TY and INno can say they are Inno's TvT isn't even that great, he just knows 50% of beating Maru is in scouting the proxy rax.
His pushes have always worked out well against Maru. Despite Maru being a much better TvT player from a technical perspective.
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On October 12 2019 01:27 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 23:27 Elentos wrote:On October 11 2019 22:58 Fango wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ Neither HeroM or Time are a match for Maru in TvT. Only TY and INno can say they are Inno's TvT isn't even that great, he just knows 50% of beating Maru is in scouting the proxy rax. His pushes have always worked out well against Maru. Despite Maru being a much better TvT player from a technical perspective.
I think Inno has a much better fundamental grasp of what is good and what isn't in TvT than Maru. So even though his execution and mechanics aren't what they used to be he can take wins against Maru who is much better at everything else in the game.
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still no word on Classic's status?
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On October 11 2019 23:49 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 23:27 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 19:51 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats. I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral). So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here. Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully No Reynor result indicates otherwise, he has issues with foreign Protoss/Terran, we're talking about Maru and Stats. It's up to them to screw it up and lose the Reynor. http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=Is that what having issues with foreign terrans looks like for you? o_o He looks very potent in the matchup results wise. In ZvP (http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=p&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=) he looks a bit more shaky but still able to beat top protoss. So I maintain Maru / Stats are only slightly favored against Reynor, and it would not be that surprising to see them lose to him in bo5. I'd gladly be proven wrong in BlizzCon with Maru beating him hard but I think it won't be as easy as in WCG.
Lol Stats maybe becoz the current PvZ but Maru is only slight favor against Reynor, especially how he 4-0 Reynor effortlessly not long ago? You must be fun at party.
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On October 11 2019 23:49 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 23:27 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 19:51 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats. I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral). So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here. Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully No Reynor result indicates otherwise, he has issues with foreign Protoss/Terran, we're talking about Maru and Stats. It's up to them to screw it up and lose the Reynor. http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=t&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=Is that what having issues with foreign terrans looks like for you? o_o He looks very potent in the matchup results wise. In ZvP (http://aligulac.com/players/5414/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=p&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=) he looks a bit more shaky but still able to beat top protoss. So I maintain Maru / Stats are only slightly favored against Reynor, and it would not be that surprising to see them lose to him in bo5. I'd gladly be proven wrong in BlizzCon with Maru beating him hard but I think it won't be as easy as in WCG.
Lol what are you saying...Maru crushed Reynor the last time they met. Maru is probably still the best at tvz in spite of him not being in his best of form. Only ones I see beating Maru in tvz are rogue, Serral and dark.
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Clem or Marinelord is at best a tier 2 Korean Terran level, I am not sure whether they are better than bunny or dream. Beating them does not mean you can match the level of Maru. Reynor just got destroyed by Maru in TvZ, 4:0.
On October 11 2019 19:51 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2019 19:33 deacon.frost wrote:On October 11 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
So basically the only difference for Maru would be that he gets Heromarine instead of TIME (probably better for him because HM doesn’t know his TvT style as much as TIME) and mini Serral instead of Serral.
The group is gonna be insanely difficult either way :/ It's not, Reynor is good mostly in ZvZ, he's not that good in TvZ so this group would be way easier for both Maru and Stats. I'm not too sure about that. Sure he lost to Special convincingly but then he beat him convincingly, so him losing to Maru at WSG doesn't make him bad per se. He beat relatively easily Clem and MarineLord yesterday, who practiced hard for him and are very skilled terrans at the moment (the same MarineLord that almost beat Serral). So I maintain, it's still a very hard group for Maru ; for Stats it depends on if he beats Maru or not: if he beats Maru it's not that bad if he loses to Reynor, otherwise it's getting dangerous. HM should have the short end of the stick here. Since it's in Korea though I'd say Stats/Maru are still slightly favored, thankfully
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Is it just me or is this way too late to be deciding who is going to Blizzcon? It’s making the whole thing look silly and unorganized that it’s in 10 days and we still don’t know the groups
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