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On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
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User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave  Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year.
Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim.
Edit> also still no starleague  When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$!
User was warned for this post.
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On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$!
Wtf is that, you're literaly going insane Oo
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On September 17 2019 20:43 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Wtf is that, you're literaly going insane Oo
Serral's success is slowly driving our Deacon friend mad.
Don't worry, just wait for Maru to win the next Code S and he will be back in shape; meanwhile, let's all openly worship any kind of Starleague ever existed, we'll give him hope and strenght.
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On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$!
Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim 
Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments.
You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations.
I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans.
I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost?
Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in.
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On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in.
Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less.
Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral.
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On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral.
To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition.
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On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition.
so have like 20 koreans
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On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in.
Good post.
To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals.
Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost
Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!"
Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness
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On September 17 2019 23:40 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition. so have like 20 koreans
So many tournaments in so little time, being this dominant? Very few koreans.
And, to this, you have to add Serral's "worthless" WCS victories.
Also, to KobeSteak: Serral not going to Code S has nothing to do with money, it's because he doesn't want to stay in korea for more than three months. If Code S would last one month, maybe six week, Serral would go for sure.
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On September 17 2019 23:43 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:40 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition. so have like 20 koreans So many tournaments in so little time, being this dominant? Very few koreans. And, to this, you have to add Serral's "worthless" WCS victories. Also, to KobeSteak: Serral not going to Code S has nothing to do with money, it's because he doesn't want to stay in korea for more than three months. If Code S would last one month, maybe six week, Serral would go for sure.
Can someone else confirm this for me as well? I'm pretty sure he mention it was because he didn't want to be away from his family and money. I could be wrong
Thanks for pointing this out
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On September 17 2019 23:40 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition. so have like 20 koreans
Great for those koreans! I really liked DRG in the olden days.
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On September 17 2019 23:51 KobeSteak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:43 Xain0n wrote:On September 17 2019 23:40 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition. so have like 20 koreans So many tournaments in so little time, being this dominant? Very few koreans. And, to this, you have to add Serral's "worthless" WCS victories. Also, to KobeSteak: Serral not going to Code S has nothing to do with money, it's because he doesn't want to stay in korea for more than three months. If Code S would last one month, maybe six week, Serral would go for sure. Can someone else confirm this for me as well? I'm pretty sure he mention it was because he didn't want to be away from his family and money. I could be wrong Thanks for pointing this out
Protosser is in Korea at the moment.
Serral's interview on TL after HSC(or BlizzCon) is the one where he openly states time is the biggest issues(Serral doesn't mind going to korea); he never mentioned money, as far as I know.
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On September 17 2019 23:43 KobeSteak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Good post. To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals. Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!" Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness
It took SErral 6 years to win something, you realize he started playing much sooner than 2018, do you?
Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way
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On September 18 2019 00:07 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:51 KobeSteak wrote:On September 17 2019 23:43 Xain0n wrote:On September 17 2019 23:40 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:35 HeroSandro wrote:On September 17 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:
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This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Yeah surprise surprise - if you avoid the real competition you tend to lose less. Maybe Maru should start just not playing in weekend tournaments. That way people would worship him as much for being invincible as they do with Serral. To be fair, Serral has won multiple tournaments with "real" competition. so have like 20 koreans So many tournaments in so little time, being this dominant? Very few koreans. And, to this, you have to add Serral's "worthless" WCS victories. Also, to KobeSteak: Serral not going to Code S has nothing to do with money, it's because he doesn't want to stay in korea for more than three months. If Code S would last one month, maybe six week, Serral would go for sure. Can someone else confirm this for me as well? I'm pretty sure he mention it was because he didn't want to be away from his family and money. I could be wrong Thanks for pointing this out Protosser is in Korea at the moment. Serral's interview on TL after HSC(or BlizzCon) is the one where he openly states time is the biggest issues(Serral doesn't mind going to korea); he never mentioned money, as far as I know.
Just want another poster to confirm this before I edited out the money part in my previous post
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On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2019 23:43 KobeSteak wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Good post. To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals. Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!" Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness It took SErral 6 years to win something, you realize he started playing much sooner than 2018, do you? Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way
It would work both ways if they were hating on Maru lmao, but they don't so no. The onus is on you ;-) people like you make me a Serral fanboy because reading you squirm is just so satisfying, and as a Terran player I'm neither upset when Serral loses :-)
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On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way
That's called GSL vs the World, and we know how that tends to play out for Maru...
If you're calling on weekenders to help your case, your whataboutism is grasping at straws.
Since Jan18, Serral is 80%+ winrate in matches vs Koreans, Maru is 65% (66% vs 60% in games respectively). Can we discuss these facts, instead of location hypotheticals ?
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Czech Republic12131 Posts
On September 18 2019 00:33 Noa Greenini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 23:43 KobeSteak wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Good post. To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals. Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!" Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness It took SErral 6 years to win something, you realize he started playing much sooner than 2018, do you? Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way It would work both ways if they were hating on Maru lmao, but they don't so no. The onus is on you ;-) people like you make me a Serral fanboy because reading you squirm is just so satisfying, and as a Terran player I'm neither upset when Serral loses :-)
Imma not hating on Serral, I'm just saying he's not banjo nor any other term because he's playing the best rarely and even then doesn't dominate them per se
His domination is following
nothing. nothing. ST, Blizzcon, HSC. nothing. nothing. ST. I consider him top4 player so his domination should be winning the tourney, shouldn't it?
I don't get where you get I'm hating on SErral, I hate SErral fans, I don't hate him personally. At least not yet, but his fans are getting me there slowly.
Edit> missed one nothing for ROG but feel free to fill in the Korean tourneys he dominated.
Edit2> disagreeing is now hating? wonderful world we live in
Top late edit> BTW I don't think he failed or did bad at the "nothing" tourneys, but he didn't dominate them nor the scene. He is playing awesome SC2 for a foreigner. He's very consistent and for sure the top4 player. But there always be the question - what if he played more often against Koreans? (because the more you play them the more they know you and the more you lose)
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Northern Ireland27083 Posts
On September 18 2019 00:37 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way That's called GSL vs the World, and we know how that tends to play out for Maru... If you're calling on weekenders to help your case, your whataboutism is grasping at straws. Since Jan18, Serral is 80%+ winrate in matches vs Koreans, Maru is 65% (66% vs 60% in games respectively). Can we discuss these facts, instead of location hypotheticals ?
Which is even more impressive than it looks really as Serral tends to only be playing elite Koreans when he does meet them in a tournament.
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On September 18 2019 00:39 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2019 00:33 Noa Greenini wrote:On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 23:43 KobeSteak wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Good post. To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals. Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!" Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness It took SErral 6 years to win something, you realize he started playing much sooner than 2018, do you? Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way It would work both ways if they were hating on Maru lmao, but they don't so no. The onus is on you ;-) people like you make me a Serral fanboy because reading you squirm is just so satisfying, and as a Terran player I'm neither upset when Serral loses :-) Imma not hating on Serral, I'm just saying he's not banjo nor any other term because he's playing the best rarely and even then doesn't dominate them per se His domination is following nothing. nothing. ST, Blizzcon, HSC. nothing. nothing. ST. I consider him top4 player so his domination should be winning the tourney, shouldn't it? I don't get where you get I'm hating on SErral, I hate SErral fans, I don't hate him personally. At least not yet, but his fans are getting me there slowly. Edit> missed one nothing for ROG but feel free to fill in the Korean tourneys he dominated. Edit2> disagreeing is now hating? wonderful world we live in Top late edit> BTW I don't think he failed or did bad at the "nothing" tourneys, but he didn't dominate them nor the scene. He is playing awesome SC2 for a foreigner. He's very consistent and for sure the top4 player. But there always be the question - what if he played more often against Koreans? (because the more you play them the more they know you and the more you lose)
Normally, I ignore your stupid rants, but whenever you post blatant misinfo, someone has to correct you. It's not just one HSC, it's two. In these so-called "nothings" you harp upon, he'd gone far into them, and (as was stated before many times by others) was only knocked out by the eventual winner, more often than not in close series. In every WCS, he did dominate most parts of them, having dropped very few maps.
"I don't hate him personally. At least not yet, but his fans are getting me there slowly."
As if you haven't alraedy exposed yourself already as an extremely partial and uninformed person, who needs to be corrected time and time again, you further compound that with this irrational statement to show that your mindset is so toxic and weak that it requires others to conform to your perspective. Otherwise, you go apes#@$ and may even hate on a totally undeserving person.
"But there always be the question - what if he played more often against Koreans? (because the more you play them the more they know you and the more you lose)".
Pointless statement. Hardly anyone wants to spend 2-3 months in a foreign country just for a mid-size tournament. Serral is playing against the Koreans frequently enough as it is. With IEM, WESG, two HSC, ROG, GSL vs TW, and WCS Final, there are plenty of opportunities for the Koreans to test themselves against the champion. You make it seem as if it's so few. Even if he does participate in one GSL, that would only be another one out of 8 total tournaments. It's moot.
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On September 18 2019 03:19 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2019 00:39 deacon.frost wrote:On September 18 2019 00:33 Noa Greenini wrote:On September 18 2019 00:12 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 23:43 KobeSteak wrote:On September 17 2019 23:19 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 20:14 deacon.frost wrote:On September 17 2019 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:On September 17 2019 09:43 Nakajin wrote:On September 17 2019 05:31 Dave4 wrote:
The moderators have deemed his conduct acceptable. Please refrain from calling people trolls unless a moderator has confirmed this to be the case.
User was temp banned for this post. This post just became some weird meta statement. Hahaha that made my day, that was amazing, like a prophet digging his own grave Serral has been S class forever, if he wins blizzcon and homestory this year I'm starting to feel the B word. Or we should just make up a new word in SC2 for a player dominating as hard as Serral consistently for over a year. Forever? e.g. 2015? or 2016? or 2017? Interesting claim. Edit> also still no starleague When people were demanding this new word for Maru, many people went into BUT NO WEEKENDERS!@#!$!$ We can see he's bad at weekenders(he's not), so how about - BUT NO PREPARATIONAL TOURNAMENTS, HURR DURR!@#!$!$! Haha indeed forever is an interesting claim Forever in Starcraft 2 time that is :p No one ever has been as dominant as Serral for this long, usually even the best players win a tournament and then loses in RO8 for the next two tournaments. You can't really compare Maru to Serral that way, Serral hasn't lost in GSL multiple times, he haven't tried. Maru has tried and failed multiple times (sure he has won as well and I wouldn't call him bad but not dominating) that two different situations. I used to say wcs victories weren't worth shit and I believed any of the top 5 koreans could do what Serral did in wcs but I can't really claim that anymore can I. Not after seeing how strongly foreigners are showing up vs koreans. I love Maru and I think you could argue for Maru being Bonjwa but 2018 he lost IEM vs Rogue in RO4, in super tournament he lost in RO8 vs Classic, in GSL vs the world he lost in RO4 vs Stats, in super tournament 2 he lost in RO8 vs sOs and at the world championship he lost in RO8 vs sOs. That is a bit too weak to be called bonjwa I would say. From may 2018 to today what tournaments have Serral lost? Edit: Note that we are talking about tournaments he actually participated in. Good post. To add to your point. It took Maru 6-7 years and ~15 GSL tries to make it to his first Code S finals. Most of Serral lost from 2018 till now was to the eventual tournament champion. e.g sOO, Inno, stats, Rey. Cant say the same for Maru lost Then again, then only thing left for the Serral haters/ Maru fans is "Serral is dodging GSL! where real competition is at!" Serral has said many times he will not play in GSL because it is not financially worth it. If all the haters wants to see him play in GSL, go create a "go fund me" for $100,000 and sponsor Serral to go and make it worth his time. All these haters need to put money where their mouth is, otherwise sit down, shut up, and witness greatness It took SErral 6 years to win something, you realize he started playing much sooner than 2018, do you? Edit> We can say the same for you, fund MAru for a WCS, get the visas going, get him the monies and I bet with enough money he will go to the WCS Put the money where your mouth is? It works both way It would work both ways if they were hating on Maru lmao, but they don't so no. The onus is on you ;-) people like you make me a Serral fanboy because reading you squirm is just so satisfying, and as a Terran player I'm neither upset when Serral loses :-) Imma not hating on Serral, I'm just saying he's not banjo nor any other term because he's playing the best rarely and even then doesn't dominate them per se His domination is following nothing. nothing. ST, Blizzcon, HSC. nothing. nothing. ST. I consider him top4 player so his domination should be winning the tourney, shouldn't it? I don't get where you get I'm hating on SErral, I hate SErral fans, I don't hate him personally. At least not yet, but his fans are getting me there slowly. Edit> missed one nothing for ROG but feel free to fill in the Korean tourneys he dominated. Edit2> disagreeing is now hating? wonderful world we live in Top late edit> BTW I don't think he failed or did bad at the "nothing" tourneys, but he didn't dominate them nor the scene. He is playing awesome SC2 for a foreigner. He's very consistent and for sure the top4 player. But there always be the question - what if he played more often against Koreans? (because the more you play them the more they know you and the more you lose) Normally, I ignore your stupid rants, but whenever you post blatant misinfo, someone has to correct you. It's not just one HSC, it's two. In these so-called "nothings" you harp upon, he'd gone far into them, and (as was stated before many times by others) was only knocked out by the eventual winner, more often than not in close series. In every WCS, he did dominate most parts of them, having dropped very few maps. "I don't hate him personally. At least not yet, but his fans are getting me there slowly." As if you haven't alraedy exposed yourself already as an extremely partial and uninformed person, who needs to be corrected time and time again, you further compound that with this irrational statement to show that your mindset is so toxic and weak that it requires others to conform to your perspective. Otherwise, you go apes#@$ and may even hate on a totally undeserving person. "But there always be the question - what if he played more often against Koreans? (because the more you play them the more they know you and the more you lose)". Pointless statement. Hardly anyone wants to spend 2-3 months in a foreign country just for a mid-size tournament. Serral is playing against the Koreans frequently enough as it is. With IEM, WESG, two HSC, ROG, GSL vs TW, and WCS Final, there are plenty of opportunities for the Koreans to test themselves against the champion. You make it seem as if it's so few. Even if he does participate in one GSL, that would only be another one out of 8 total tournaments. It's moot.
he's not wrong on Serral fanboys on this website being extremely toxic though.
He's the best foreigner ever and one of the most dominant players we've seen but his fanboys for some reason aren't satisfied with that and constantly spew their propaganda that Serral is this untouchable god who dominates the game harder than anyone has ever before which is horseshit of course and the only reason he's even in consideration for "most dominant player" is that his results are massively boosted by region-locked WCS.
Remove those results and what's left? out of the last 7 non-WCS premier tournaments Serral won 4.
Impressive but not something other players haven't done before. Mvp, Zest, Life, Rogue, Maru and INnoVation have all had a similar streak.
But pointing this out makes you a hater in the mind of the TL-Serral-cult
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