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StarCraft II: DeepMind Demonstration: Jan 24 - Page 24

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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 24 2019 20:21 GMT
#461
This is interesting. OMG!!!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
siakam
Profile Joined December 2018
Korea (South)11 Posts
January 24 2019 20:21 GMT
#462
And alphastar must learn maner first before playing
No gg no skill
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 24 2019 20:22 GMT
#463
On January 25 2019 05:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:19 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:18 RandomPlayer wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:15 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:13 RandomPlayer wrote:
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.

So why is alphastar suddenly so bad now that it has only one screen vision?


because Mana has adjusted and tricked it.


So if you give it an inhuman advantage it wins, but if you make it more human it's just mana tricking it?



That's called CounterStrike mentality. You are a noob or a cheater. No middleground


good thing I'm fucking garbage at cs:go
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 24 2019 20:22 GMT
#464
On January 25 2019 05:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Alphastar leaving the base with his army repeatedly and Mana's warp prism just going back in immediately doesn't speak too highly of its decision making ability. But I'm sure it'll get better.

That's a very specific case though, at some point it will build a phoenix when something like this happens and then win the game and thus be reinforced to build a phoenix more often when something like this happens and thus learn.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:23:34
January 24 2019 20:22 GMT
#465
On January 25 2019 05:19 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:15 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:13 RandomPlayer wrote:
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.

So why is alphastar suddenly so bad now that it has only one screen vision?


You think it looked bad?

Yeah going back and forth to defend the prism, not making a phoenix and stuff was really bad.


Sure but the oracle play was great, that 2 oracle in the main with a front pressure was nasty, would have won against 99% of the players.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:23:24
January 24 2019 20:23 GMT
#466
I do find it funny as soon as it lost that was the end of the show. We didnt get to see Mana bash the fair version for 10 games.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:23:39
January 24 2019 20:23 GMT
#467
On January 25 2019 05:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Alphastar leaving the base with his army repeatedly and Mana's warp prism just going back in immediately doesn't speak too highly of its decision making ability. But I'm sure it'll get better.

That's a very specific case though, at some point it will build a phoenix when something like this happens and then win the game and thus be reinforced to build a phoenix more often when something like this happens and thus learn.

yea, I think the other version faced this in it's 200 years of training, this one is just a lil pup
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 24 2019 20:24 GMT
#468
This is just the beginning. We don't have much time left
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12795 Posts
January 24 2019 20:25 GMT
#469
On January 25 2019 05:22 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:19 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:15 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:13 RandomPlayer wrote:
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.

So why is alphastar suddenly so bad now that it has only one screen vision?


You think it looked bad?

Yeah going back and forth to defend the prism, not making a phoenix and stuff was really bad.


Sure but the oracle play was great, that 2 oracle in the main with a front pressure was nasty, would have won against 99% of the players.

I don't think you should judge how an AI like that really performs based on its strong showings (often due to inherent advantages), but on how robust it is to trickeries.
WriterMaru
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands677 Posts
January 24 2019 20:25 GMT
#470
On January 24 2019 05:20 _fool wrote:
I think we will be amazed.


I was amazed
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
January 24 2019 20:26 GMT
#471
They should probably let this play sometimes on the KR ladder.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:27:23
January 24 2019 20:26 GMT
#472
On January 25 2019 05:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:22 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:19 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:15 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:13 RandomPlayer wrote:
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.

So why is alphastar suddenly so bad now that it has only one screen vision?


You think it looked bad?

Yeah going back and forth to defend the prism, not making a phoenix and stuff was really bad.


Sure but the oracle play was great, that 2 oracle in the main with a front pressure was nasty, would have won against 99% of the players.

I don't think you should judge how an AI like that really performs based on its strong showings (often due to inherent advantages), but on how robust it is to trickeries.

The DeepMind team seems to agree, they specifically told us that they picked the "least exploitable agents" from their league.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:27:04
January 24 2019 20:26 GMT
#473
[Double post]
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Lanthdoral
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany7 Posts
January 24 2019 20:27 GMT
#474
no gg! BM AI confirmed^^
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 24 2019 20:28 GMT
#475
absolutely mindblowing.
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation390 Posts
January 24 2019 20:28 GMT
#476
Wow, just wow.. this is very unexpected and impressive!!
Aiingel
Profile Joined May 2016
243 Posts
January 24 2019 20:29 GMT
#477
Where can we download the replay packs? I can’t seem to find them
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 24 2019 20:31 GMT
#478
lol in twitch chat :

"AlphaStarAi says : GIMME SERRAL OR I'M GONNA KILL CORDANA"

made me laugh
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
SPcrusader
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway99 Posts
January 24 2019 20:32 GMT
#479
This was indeed very impressive. It gave me that angst. I just know that my species will be exterminated by these agents sooner or later.
https://www.twitch.tv/spcrusader
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 20:36:16
January 24 2019 20:33 GMT
#480
On January 25 2019 05:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 05:22 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:19 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:17 Nakajin wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:15 Poopi wrote:
On January 25 2019 05:13 RandomPlayer wrote:
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.

So why is alphastar suddenly so bad now that it has only one screen vision?


You think it looked bad?

Yeah going back and forth to defend the prism, not making a phoenix and stuff was really bad.


Sure but the oracle play was great, that 2 oracle in the main with a front pressure was nasty, would have won against 99% of the players.

I don't think you should judge how an AI like that really performs based on its strong showings (often due to inherent advantages), but on how robust it is to trickeries.


Well the strategt the IA came up with was both very good vs what Mana was doing and didn't depend on any inherent advantages and it dealt well enough with the adepts harras, sure clearly it didn't understand how to respond to immortal-WP but it still look like an IA who would be unbeatable in a few week, at least in pvp on this map.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
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