EPTThe Best Article in the World - Page 4
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
MrMischelito
347 Posts
| ||
|
Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
As far as simplified casting goes, I do think there's a lot of repetition with stereotyping players, but in some cases I think it's justified. I don't get annoyed when someone hypes ByuN sniping banes off creep, to the trained eye that isn't all that special, but it still LOOKS cool and the casters should definitely hype the moment, maybe just tone down the "GOAT" analysis. | ||
|
Charoisaur
Germany15866 Posts
I wonder why they feel the need to always use those hyperboles though. if they would just replace "The best" with "one of the best" it would already annoy me far less. | ||
|
Justinian
United Kingdom158 Posts
It's easy to criticise, but proposing a solution is more difficult. In the one clip you posted showing how it should be done, I actually found the casting a little more annoying than the Tastosis clips. Apollo & Kaelaris were basically just repeating what was happening and screaming over it. Not sure what you found so impressive about that. I don't mean to criticise them, I'm just saying casting is a difficult job to do well. As I say though, Tastosis are probably still the best SC2 casters, but I agree they could improve their casting a little by toning down some of the over the top praise for players/tournaments. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On July 27 2018 01:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Might be some truth to Rogue's lategame actually being that good. 2012 Symbol, RorO, Soulkey and perhaps prime Dark are the only ones who might've been better than him. any discussion about late game Zerg should not include the second half of 2012. The skill involved in lategame Zerg in that period was far lower than at pretty much any other other point in Starcraft history, including early WoL. Also in my experience, a lot of us that have been deeply involved in SC2 for years are really grumpy about over-hyped casters (and just bad strategic analysis in general). | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
 Also the clip was A+ | ||
|
Jealous
10095 Posts
Slightly irrelevant to the overall direction of the thread, but I just want to maybe give a perhaps slightly "outsider" perspective on the discussion at hand. As a BW player that nevertheless watches all of the "Best Games of the Year" that TL puts out, I found Life vs. Dream to be the one that really appealed to me the most. Not that Innovation vs. TaeJa was a bad game by any means (it's up there for me as well), or many of the others that have been mentioned. But, if I were to pick THE ONE, it would be this one. | ||
|
Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2208 Posts
'The purpose of analysis and commentary is to provide perspective that a typical fan cannot offer—insight that only experts possess' I think this is the problem, in most sports this is really lacking, commentary is always dumbed down and largely observational, this is partly why independent blogs have sprung up to cater for an audience who want real analysis. | ||
|
dankobanana
Croatia237 Posts
On July 27 2018 03:35 Charoisaur wrote: Tastosis gets criticized quite heavily in here, probably rightfully so I just want to mention that despite this they are still by far my favourite casters and get me hyped like no other ones while also having the best in-depth analysis. NO!!! you can't possibly think they have a good in-depth analysis of the game. Just listen to Rotti or NoRegret cast and you'll hear what you have been missing. Especially Tastless, he has been out of the loop far too long. I don't play, just watch, and I find it bad | ||
|
Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 27 2018 01:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Might be some truth to Rogue's lategame actually being that good. 2012 Symbol, RorO, Soulkey and perhaps prime Dark are the only ones who might've been better than him. He's had some good lategames. But nothing to suggest he's the GOAT. Artosis started that narrative after GSL S3/Super tournament 2 last year because of (Iiterally) one or two games that Rogue actually won against Stats' skytoss. By blizzcon he was already saying that Rogue "NEVER loses in the lategame". Even though most of the games he lost to Dear, herO, and Neeb around that time were, in fact, when the game went late. Dark's lategame is much more reliable and well rounded, as it has been for years. Even ByuL would have more of a case than Rogue. Any zerg from 2012 doesn't count. And that's forgetting about other races (Rain, Zest, Stats, Taeja, TY, and now Maru have all done incredible things in the lategame). | ||
|
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Lead by example and all that, calling something out then using the same tactics kinda feels off. That's just my kneejerk reaction though. | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On July 27 2018 04:48 Tictock wrote: As much as I agree with the general sentiment in this article, the Irony in calling it "The Best Article in the World" which was obviously chosen for that reason (as well as clickbait), gets me. Lead by example and all that, calling something out then using the same tactics kinda feels off. That's just my kneejerk reaction though. It read to me as a deliberately ironic title. | ||
|
Tictock
United States6051 Posts
was obviously chosen for that reason Still bugs me. *Shrug* Guess I'm just an unappeasable asshole | ||
|
Charoisaur
Germany15866 Posts
On July 27 2018 04:18 dankobanana wrote: NO!!! you can't possibly think they have a good in-depth analysis of the game. Just listen to Rotti or NoRegret cast and you'll hear what you have been missing. Especially Tastless, he has been out of the loop far too long. I don't play, just watch, and I find it bad Rotti and Noregret have good in-depth analysis about the matchups that include the race they play but they're lacking knowledge in the other matchups. Artosis has incredible understanding of all matchups. Tasteless is just there for the hype and jokes but that's okay. | ||
|
435
39 Posts
| ||
|
Charoisaur
Germany15866 Posts
On July 27 2018 05:14 435 wrote: I like hype. This article is just worthless. I love when casters hype and it has nothing to do with reality. Who cares if it is not realistically the best tournament ever! It is the best tournament ever right now! And this is the best micro right now etc. We want to see world class things and our world class casters hype well! Without those casters I would not watch this game at all! Worthless pieace of text. This doesn't make sense. Ever and right now are opposite things. I get where you're coming from, I like hype too but I think we can hype the game up without stating blatantly untrue things. | ||
|
Jealous
10095 Posts
On July 27 2018 05:14 435 wrote: I like hype. This article is just worthless. I love when casters hype and it has nothing to do with reality. Who cares if it is not realistically the best tournament ever! It is the best tournament ever right now! And this is the best micro right now etc. We want to see world class things and our world class casters hype well! Without those casters I would not watch this game at all! Worthless pieace of text. But this is the Best Article in the World right now, how can you say all of those things you said? I mean, clearly you're not grounded in reality as you said, so why can you make an allowance for calling one thing the best micro ever or the best tournament ever, then disagree that this is the best article ever right now? Hypocrite. | ||
|
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
| ||
Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On July 27 2018 06:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I was expecting more drama from this. This isn't the Greatest Drama of All Time Trust me, there are more drama fueling articles to come.. | ||
|
Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 27 2018 06:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I was expecting more drama from this. This isn't the Greatest Drama of All Time Clickbait title. | ||
| ||
