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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2017 14:00 GMT
#541
On August 27 2017 22:34 seemsgood wrote:
Now let give ultralisk taunt ability.Filthy terrans always try to kite them to death ?????? No problem.

Give marauders spell shield so they can protect themselves from storm.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37098 Posts
August 27 2017 14:06 GMT
#542
On August 27 2017 22:57 Siegetank_Dieter1 wrote:
PLEASE BLIZZARD FOR THE SAKE OF THIS GAME FIX THE SWARMHOST/MECH INTERACTION, IT ALREADY RUINED EARLY HOTS, HISTORY DOESN'T NEED TO REPEAT ITSELF !!!!!

PLEASE !

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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 27 2017 14:10 GMT
#543
I don't want pylons to do things, it's just weird.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 27 2017 14:11 GMT
#544
On August 27 2017 23:10 Ansibled wrote:
I don't want pylons to do things, it's just weird.

Agreed, pylons should be removed
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17692 Posts
August 27 2017 14:46 GMT
#545
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!
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DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
August 27 2017 15:57 GMT
#546
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yes, please.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
August 27 2017 15:58 GMT
#547
they really want to implement that major patch before Blizzard 2017?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
August 27 2017 16:08 GMT
#548
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!

not sure that would be a good change. That will make it much more tempting for players to develop an F2 habit - which is still very bad to have when doing or defending vs multiprong attacks
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
August 27 2017 17:10 GMT
#549
On August 28 2017 00:58 Dingodile wrote:
they really want to implement that major patch before Blizzard 2017?


I think like last time this won't be launched till after blizcon.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Masemium
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands33 Posts
August 28 2017 06:33 GMT
#550
Entangle replaces Infested Terrans? Seems like Blizzard doesn't really know what to do and where to put Infested Terrans either.

You know what I think? Temporary summoned units are a b*tch to balance. In my recent mod-endeavors I removed Infested Terrans too. I know infestating terrans is sort of a Zerg staple, but if you can't find a way to have it balanced in the game, why bother. Good riddance even!
Sentou junbi!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 29 2017 17:03 GMT
#551
It has been stated many times before in this thread but i'll say it again: Blizzard is the epitome of incompetence and they don't have the faintest clue of what they're doing to their game.
I finally played the test map, good god its worse than 3.8, and that patch ruined the game in many ways.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
August 29 2017 17:36 GMT
#552
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.
WeddingEpisode
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 18:18:53
August 29 2017 18:09 GMT
#553
On August 30 2017 02:03 Morbidius wrote:
It has been stated many times before in this thread but i'll say it again: Blizzard is the epitome of incompetence and they don't have the faintest clue of what they're doing to their game.
I finally played the test map, good god its worse than 3.8, and that patch ruined the game in many ways.


First, I don't even know where Blizzard is... Netherlands??
Secondly, maybe the team really doesn't know what's going on.

True story: one well-known pro streamer (who shall remain nameless) tells a story about a conversation he had with
D. Kim during the Broodlord Infestor era during a lunch. Conversation ensues between two said people, long story short, Kim didn't know people were combo-ing Broodlord&Infestor, he didn't even know there was a "BroodLord-Infestor" era.

We're the ones investing so much time in the game.
Still diamond
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
August 29 2017 18:13 GMT
#554
They should keep fixing the frustrating things in the game, such as the radius at which a pylon can be a fast warp in pylon.

It makes no sense that a pylon like 4 spaces away from my nexus right in my natural is a slow pylon, if the reason for it being slow is because of proxy pylons needing to be slow, wh is a pylon in my base slow? Starcraft doesn't need so many weird rules. Shit like this is why there are no protoss players.

Just make the fast warp-in radius huge around the nexus and get rid of the fast warpins connected to warpgates.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 29 2017 18:42 GMT
#555
On August 30 2017 02:36 JackONeill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.


Lower level players don't give a damn about your elitist slippery slope argument. What you're saying adds nothing to the discussion and acts as a turnoff to anyone trying to discuss alternatives/solutions because you'll never be convinced of anything besides what you believe in. These balance change threads have turned from constructive criticism to mindless shitposting and it really offputting. Just because you are disgusted by any sort of change, even the most minor, doesn't mean Blizzard cant at least attempt to lower the barrier of entry to multiplayer even slightly.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 19:01:27
August 29 2017 18:58 GMT
#556
On August 30 2017 03:42 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 02:36 JackONeill wrote:
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.


Lower level players don't give a damn about your elitist slippery slope argument. What you're saying adds nothing to the discussion and acts as a turnoff to anyone trying to discuss alternatives/solutions because you'll never be convinced of anything besides what you believe in. These balance change threads have turned from constructive criticism to mindless shitposting and it really offputting. Just because you are disgusted by any sort of change, even the most minor, doesn't mean Blizzard cant at least attempt to lower the barrier of entry to multiplayer even slightly.


The notion that dumbing down sc2 will bring a new wave of casual players is delusional and idiotic. The only thing that brought new people (or brought back some old players who quit) was coop.
Making army control groups useless with a "smart" F2 key won't allow players with superior mechanics to distinguish themselves by controlling complicated armies better. Which is bad for the game.

And saying "your argumented point adds nothing to the discussion but me trying to shut it down does !" is both ridiculous and adorable.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 29 2017 19:06 GMT
#557
On August 30 2017 03:58 JackONeill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 03:42 vult wrote:
On August 30 2017 02:36 JackONeill wrote:
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.


Lower level players don't give a damn about your elitist slippery slope argument. What you're saying adds nothing to the discussion and acts as a turnoff to anyone trying to discuss alternatives/solutions because you'll never be convinced of anything besides what you believe in. These balance change threads have turned from constructive criticism to mindless shitposting and it really offputting. Just because you are disgusted by any sort of change, even the most minor, doesn't mean Blizzard cant at least attempt to lower the barrier of entry to multiplayer even slightly.


The notion that dumbing down sc2 will bring a new wave of casual players is delusional and idiotic. The only thing that brought new people (or brought back some old players who quit) was coop.
Making army control groups useless with a "smart" F2 key won't allow players with superior mechanics to distinguish themselves by controlling complicated armies better. Which is bad for the game.

And saying "your argumented point adds nothing to the discussion but me trying to shut it down does !" is both ridiculous and adorable.


from slippery slopes to ad hominums. logical fallacies are your strong suit, ay buddy boy?

User was warned for this post
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 20:37:47
August 29 2017 20:32 GMT
#558
On August 30 2017 04:06 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 03:58 JackONeill wrote:
On August 30 2017 03:42 vult wrote:
On August 30 2017 02:36 JackONeill wrote:
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.


Lower level players don't give a damn about your elitist slippery slope argument. What you're saying adds nothing to the discussion and acts as a turnoff to anyone trying to discuss alternatives/solutions because you'll never be convinced of anything besides what you believe in. These balance change threads have turned from constructive criticism to mindless shitposting and it really offputting. Just because you are disgusted by any sort of change, even the most minor, doesn't mean Blizzard cant at least attempt to lower the barrier of entry to multiplayer even slightly.


The notion that dumbing down sc2 will bring a new wave of casual players is delusional and idiotic. The only thing that brought new people (or brought back some old players who quit) was coop.
Making army control groups useless with a "smart" F2 key won't allow players with superior mechanics to distinguish themselves by controlling complicated armies better. Which is bad for the game.

And saying "your argumented point adds nothing to the discussion but me trying to shut it down does !" is both ridiculous and adorable.


from slippery slopes to ad hominums. logical fallacies are your strong suit, ay buddy boy?


Pointing out how stupid it is to pretend you rebuted a point by saying it's not adding anything to discussing while not adding any counter argument isn't an ad hominem.

But if you want one, i can provide : "8000 posts to be that bad at arguing on the internet? I'm you're a silver player with 10 000 games."

So did you thought you learned a word on the internet you think you can use to get out of every situation where you're getting owned ? (and it's ad hominem, not hominum btw)
Try again, "buddy boy"
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
August 29 2017 20:40 GMT
#559
A lot of big changes comming and people ranting about F2 lol.
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
August 29 2017 20:52 GMT
#560
On August 30 2017 03:42 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 02:36 JackONeill wrote:
On August 27 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'd like to restate an idea i've heard on reddit.

the F2/All-Army button should activate every army unit.. except army units in Hold Position. This avoids all these special abilities associated with holding observers in place.

please, make this happen Blizzard. Low Leaguers will love it... and forgetful Diamond players will like it too! That is 95%+ of the player base!


Yeah let's dumb down the game as much as possible for lower leagues player.

Why stop there? While we're at it let's remove control group, they're hard to manage, let's have every hatchery automatically be binded to a key. Let's have every terran prod building binded to another. Let's have every caster binded to another.

Let's have a key to spit marines automatically too, lower league players can't really do it.
Let's have storm auto aim the center mass of enemy troops too, storms are hard to use for lower league players !


The obs/overseer "deploy" idiocy is already embarassing enough, please don't advocate to dumb down the game even further. F2 key SHOULD be punishing to use.


Lower level players don't give a damn about your elitist slippery slope argument. What you're saying adds nothing to the discussion and acts as a turnoff to anyone trying to discuss alternatives/solutions because you'll never be convinced of anything besides what you believe in. These balance change threads have turned from constructive criticism to mindless shitposting and it really offputting. Just because you are disgusted by any sort of change, even the most minor, doesn't mean Blizzard cant at least attempt to lower the barrier of entry to multiplayer even slightly.

just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he's shitposting. He does have a point. SC2 is not meant to be an easy game, people who want to play an easy game should play something else. The mechanics in SC2 are already really easy compared to BW so there's no need to make it even easier.
And it's naive to think this will only affect lower level players; it will affect every level of skill including pros.
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