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[GSLTV] Race Match announced

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velocekr
Profile Joined December 2016
Korea (South)46 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 01:04:59
April 10 2017 00:20 GMT
#1
Source





2017 GSLTV Project 2

▣ Name
- StarCraft 2 Race Match(?)

▣ Match Schedule
Day 1: 12nd April (Wed) 10 pm KST
Day 2: 16th April (Sun) 10 pm KST
Day 3: 23rd April (Sun) 10 pm KST
Day 4: 30th April (Sun) 10 pm KST

▣ Match line up
Day 1: Protoss vs Zerg
Day 2: Terran vs Zerg
Day 3: Protoss vs Terran
Day 4: Final(1st team vs 2nd team)

▣ Rules
12 Set Match between race A & race B
Winner continue, Loose team choose new Challenger and Map
Each Player can play up to 4 sets, (Winner can continue up to 3times)
If score is 11:0, play 12th set
If score is 6:6, play Ace match

Make Rank(?) with Win/loose, Set score, Winner win
If it's equal, play Bo3 match right after Day 3's match
(every player plays one set)

▣ Players
Team Protoss: (P)Stats, (P)herO, (P)Classic
Team Terran: (T)Maru, (T)INnoVation, (T)TY
Team Zerg: (Z)soO, (Z)Solar, (Z)Dark

▣ Map pool
GSL Maps, refresh when every map used

▣ Prize
Every set win 50,000 ₩ (44$)
Winner team's get bonus 150,000₩ (132$)
If every loose (12 times) 0

▣ Stream (KR)
http://afreecatv.com/thefinal
up to 1080P 8000K
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS

▣ TL Wiki
(Wiki)GSLTV Race Wars

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▣ VOD
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
April 10 2017 00:24 GMT
#2
Can't wait to watch protoss wreck because they have unbeatable comps

User was warned for this post
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 10 2017 00:28 GMT
#3
I've always liked this idea. Having teams of just toss terran or zerg. Nice to see afreeca adding it! They seem very eager to invest in sc2 right now haha.

Team Terran will rek I believe
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 10 2017 00:43 GMT
#4
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
April 10 2017 01:00 GMT
#5
I absolutely love the idea
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 10 2017 01:06 GMT
#6
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.


I legit didn't notice that. Did they say why? Some kind of experiment maybe?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 10 2017 01:08 GMT
#7
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
April 10 2017 01:14 GMT
#8
On April 10 2017 10:08 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?

Pretty sure yes
TL+ Member
velocekr
Profile Joined December 2016
Korea (South)46 Posts
April 10 2017 01:23 GMT
#9
On April 10 2017 10:08 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?


GSL should follow WCS rules.
until Blizzard's game rule and Blizzard's balance designer's mind change, they can't change in many point.

rollback is just experience... I don't know why they are trying, but remember
GSLTV is 3 Korean GSL caster's(Park Sanghyun, JYP, Gisado) private channel.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 10 2017 01:26 GMT
#10
On April 10 2017 10:23 velocekr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 10:08 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?


GSL should follow WCS rules.
until Blizzard's game rule and Blizzard's balance designer's mind change, they can't change in many point.

rollback is just experience... I don't know why they are trying, but remember
GSLTV is 3 Korean GSL caster's(Park Sanghyun, JYP, Gisado) private channel.

Ohhh I see,

Didnt think about that WCS thingy lol,

Didnt even remember it was a thing!
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 10 2017 01:26 GMT
#11
On April 10 2017 10:23 velocekr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 10:08 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?


GSL should follow WCS rules.
until Blizzard's game rule and Blizzard's balance designer's mind change, they can't change in many point.

rollback is just experience... I don't know why they are trying, but remember
GSLTV is 3 Korean GSL caster's(Park Sanghyun, JYP, Gisado) private channel.


If it's not for WCS points though they can do what they want?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 10 2017 01:27 GMT
#12
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.


it's!! happening!!! get on the hype train guys, next up is better maps and then we'll genuinely have a kickass game
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 10 2017 01:31 GMT
#13
If it's not for WCS points or sponsored by Blizzard, they can't really stop them from trying something fresh out. GSL has gotten away with using their own map pool before, no reason a small thing like this can't use different mineral patches
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
velocekr
Profile Joined December 2016
Korea (South)46 Posts
April 10 2017 01:35 GMT
#14
On April 10 2017 10:26 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 10:23 velocekr wrote:
On April 10 2017 10:08 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.

That is sick. I hope its a sign of thing to come.

if GSL decides to play their league with that mod can blizzard stop them ?


GSL should follow WCS rules.
until Blizzard's game rule and Blizzard's balance designer's mind change, they can't change in many point.

rollback is just experience... I don't know why they are trying, but remember
GSLTV is 3 Korean GSL caster's(Park Sanghyun, JYP, Gisado) private channel.


If it's not for WCS points though they can do what they want?


Blizzard is also supporting GSL with money.
If there are any support, any contract like other online tourney organizer, Could be?
StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 02:13:33
April 10 2017 02:06 GMT
#15
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


oh my god... am i dreaming ? Is this reality ? ♥♥♥

This is literally a dream come true for me. Thank you so much afreeca/GSL.

Let's hope this will show the community how much better the old economy was for the game. Let's hope blizzard will finally do something about the current situation. We need meaningful changes.
PtitDrogo
Profile Joined May 2011
France163 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 04:07:58
April 10 2017 04:06 GMT
#16
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.
Progamer
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 10 2017 04:32 GMT
#17
Bring back the 6 worker start and we'll have a proper experiment.
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
April 10 2017 04:51 GMT
#18
Bring back old.macro boosters with it and we'll be fine. 4 larva especially. Old mules and old chrono is not as relevant so it could be back too
Ultima Ratio Regum
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 10 2017 06:35 GMT
#19
Afreeca shouldnt try it but can be fun at least
TL+ Member
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
April 10 2017 06:43 GMT
#20
On April 10 2017 13:06 PtitDrogo wrote:
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.

Heresy. As evidenced by our neighbouring thread, a good 43% of TLers absolutely love the site of lasers and 50 minute swarm host games.

Idk about you but that stuff was riveting. Edge of your seat action.
hi. big fan.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 10 2017 06:46 GMT
#21
On April 10 2017 15:43 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 13:06 PtitDrogo wrote:
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.

Heresy. As evidenced by our neighbouring thread, a good 43% of TLers absolutely love the site of lasers and 50 minute swarm host games.

Idk about you but that stuff was riveting. Edge of your seat action.


1.st its TL the most unrelevant source... 2.nd he is right... its gona banne 10 - 15 minues of making problems and 3 bases and than another 10 until someone moves out...

If they rollback the economy it will be nail in the coffin for lotv...
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 10 2017 09:59 GMT
#22
Using HotS resources withouth changing the mining efficiency of workers is pretty bad.

I don't like the LotV economy, but it's better than HotS.

Well, this is just a fun event, so whatever.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 10:13:55
April 10 2017 10:13 GMT
#23
On April 10 2017 18:59 Musicus wrote:
Using HotS resources withouth changing the mining efficiency of workers is pretty bad.

I don't like the LotV economy, but it's better than HotS.

Well, this is just a fun event, so whatever.


LotV economy is a band aid but still better than the 3base cap and infinite 2b all in of WoL/HotS.
Would have love them to tweak with worker count and/or units instead.

A tournament in which every TvZ starts with a 2 rax into a macro game would have been fun haha
Zest fanboy.
Painchiller1
Profile Joined August 2015
4 Posts
April 10 2017 10:47 GMT
#24
Can't wait to watch protoss wreck because they have unbeatable comps


Love your tears
Popparockz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States40 Posts
April 10 2017 11:00 GMT
#25
Rolling back the amount of resources at the bases is pretty silly. All I believe it will do is change how fast you have to take your 4th. If they wanted to do a more interesting change they should revert the initial worker count.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15914 Posts
April 10 2017 11:22 GMT
#26
aLive should play for terran.
He's probably better than Maru and TY atm.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15914 Posts
April 10 2017 11:25 GMT
#27
On April 10 2017 13:06 PtitDrogo wrote:
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.

Agree with this but when they want to try it in an official event it seems like the KR community/pro players are in favor of it..
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 10 2017 11:44 GMT
#28
On April 10 2017 20:22 Charoisaur wrote:
aLive should play for terran.
He's probably better than Maru and TY atm.

I don't think those guys even deserve the 'probably'.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JoFar
Profile Joined January 2017
31 Posts
April 10 2017 12:08 GMT
#29
Nice!

But don't know what to think about the ressources rollback ... so you really can't compare it to other LotV games and tournaments ... makes it a very low significance which race is stronger

But will be fun anyways.

Just don't see why they choose Maru as Terran Player. In the recent weeks he hasn't really shine. Unlike other terran players like aLive for example.
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
April 10 2017 12:10 GMT
#30
On April 10 2017 10:27 Meepman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS


That is interesting to say the least.


it's!! happening!!! get on the hype train guys, next up is better maps and then we'll genuinely have a kickass game


yay more turtleing and 2 base all-ins! I love it!

not.
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
April 10 2017 12:21 GMT
#31
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 10 2017 12:30 GMT
#32
On April 10 2017 21:21 Alarak89 wrote:
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.

There is a prize pool -.-
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-12 04:05:12
April 10 2017 12:37 GMT
#33
I personally don't think a stronger economy has anything to do with "turtle games".

Bomber (Bio) vs scarlett (zerg) is considered to be one of the most action packed and intense series in SC2 history.

Taeja (Bio) vs innovation (mech) is also known to be one of the absolute best games played in SC2. One of the most amazing TvT's people ever saw in SC2.

Meanwhile we also saw flash literally splitting the map iron fortress with mech against Curious. That was a game that some people enjoyed a lot and others didn't.

Some people enjoyed it because both players displayed extremely strong macro game skills, other's disliked the game, because it took some time for the first engagements to happen and everything was just much slower than we are used to it from bio and other faster races or playstyles.

All those games got played on the same economy.

So i highly doubt that economy has a lot of impact on how the matchups are getting played. I'm convinced that you can have more action packed games with stronger economy too.

In my opinion a stronger economy simply allows for greater comebacks and overall for more stability in a macro game.

In LotV we often see "Macro games" end after like 10 minutes average. One guy usually loses 20-30 worker and then the game is just over.

I think we had turtlish games back then, because some races or playstlyes simply weren't good enough designed.

We all know it, protoss either all inned with gateway or had to tech up before taking additional bases.

Mech's midgame used to be much weaker in hots and vipers hardcountered every attempt to move out, that's why mech terrans started to turtle into a raven/BC deathball. It's just obvious.

Why would you risk getting crushed by vipers and ultralisks, if you can simply stay at home and get the right units first.

If you would've reduced the ressources back then, the games would've been the same with the exception that people would've died after their first bad trade.

Swarmhost/raven would've been the same even with reduced ressources per base. Sure the games would've probably ended earlier, but the games itself would still be boring swarmhost vs raven games.

Bad designed unit interactions create turtle games, not a strong economy.
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 12:48:55
April 10 2017 12:48 GMT
#34
On April 10 2017 21:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 21:21 Alarak89 wrote:
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.

There is a prize pool -.-

But it's equivalent to nothing comparing to workload.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 10 2017 12:55 GMT
#35
On April 10 2017 21:48 Alarak89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 21:30 Elentos wrote:
On April 10 2017 21:21 Alarak89 wrote:
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.

There is a prize pool -.-

But it's equivalent to nothing comparing to workload.

Eh sOs showed at NationWars how to get paid without actually working.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 10 2017 12:58 GMT
#36
On April 10 2017 21:21 Alarak89 wrote:
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.

I think they invited players only from the top 6 of each race.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
April 10 2017 13:01 GMT
#37
On April 10 2017 21:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 21:48 Alarak89 wrote:
On April 10 2017 21:30 Elentos wrote:
On April 10 2017 21:21 Alarak89 wrote:
sOs is so smart to realize this show match even don't offer any money.

There is a prize pool -.-

But it's equivalent to nothing comparing to workload.

Eh sOs showed at NationWars how to get paid without actually working.

Which is exactly opposite version of this show match, getting paid by doing nothing.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
April 10 2017 13:18 GMT
#38
Keeping them busy, I guess!
Liquid HerO Best Toss in the World
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
April 10 2017 13:45 GMT
#39
protoss imba
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
NomaKasd
Profile Joined September 2012
Scotland65 Posts
April 10 2017 13:49 GMT
#40
inb4 Terran wins *face palm*
MILK IT! // Idra || Stephano || Scarlett <3 || Sacsri // asd = Aspergers
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
April 10 2017 14:04 GMT
#41
The concept is fun but I don't get the economy rollback part. What are the people who are advocating it saying would be the benefit?
GreatCraft
Profile Joined March 2017
21 Posts
April 10 2017 14:08 GMT
#42
would be far more interesting to see how the races stack with each other on the LoTV model, as the HoTS model will not be guaranteed to be adopted in any form in the future...
GreatCraft
Profile Joined March 2017
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 14:11:08
April 10 2017 14:09 GMT
#43
On April 10 2017 23:04 nighcol wrote:
The concept is fun but I don't get the economy rollback part. What are the people who are advocating it saying would be the benefit?




eh, faster expansions equals more chances of conflict = more fun. I prefer LoTV. hell would be more interesting if they actually decreased the amount of minerals and gases in the LoTV model.
gtbex
Profile Joined March 2017
Poland39 Posts
April 10 2017 14:26 GMT
#44
Cannon rush then tech to Carriers 'till win. No joking, this will be fun to watch.
Pressure!
StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
April 10 2017 14:39 GMT
#45
On April 10 2017 23:09 GreatCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 23:04 nighcol wrote:
The concept is fun but I don't get the economy rollback part. What are the people who are advocating it saying would be the benefit?




eh, faster expansions equals more chances of conflict = more fun. I prefer LoTV. hell would be more interesting if they actually decreased the amount of minerals and gases in the LoTV model.


Trust me, this would make the game so painful to play.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
April 10 2017 14:45 GMT
#46
On April 10 2017 20:25 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 13:06 PtitDrogo wrote:
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.

Agree with this but when they want to try it in an official event it seems like the KR community/pro players are in favor of it..


this is not an official event tho
it's 3 casters having private tournament streamed at their private channel
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 10 2017 14:46 GMT
#47
aLive not on team Terran. Rude.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 10 2017 14:48 GMT
#48
On April 10 2017 23:46 Darkhorse wrote:
aLive not on team Terran. Rude.

They wanted to give the other teams a chance
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
April 10 2017 14:49 GMT
#49
what a stupid idea with economy

honestly I don't understand how can anyone prefer WoL/HotS economy to LotV

I mean, they can try, it's their private thing(This has nothing to do with actual GSL) but I see no benefits to it
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 10 2017 15:41 GMT
#50
What a great idea with the economy rollback! Love it!

Honestly, I cannot understand how can anyone prefer LotV economy.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 10 2017 15:50 GMT
#51
Unfortunately I don't expect much from this since none of the players will be used to this at all.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 16:12:23
April 10 2017 16:11 GMT
#52
On April 11 2017 00:50 Olli wrote:
Unfortunately I don't expect much from this since none of the players will be used to this at all.

Well all that's changing is the amount of minerals and gas per base (which increases). I don't think that will be that difficult to adapt to for them. Or even that different.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 10 2017 17:06 GMT
#53
On April 11 2017 01:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 00:50 Olli wrote:
Unfortunately I don't expect much from this since none of the players will be used to this at all.

Well all that's changing is the amount of minerals and gas per base (which increases). I don't think that will be that difficult to adapt to for them. Or even that different.

Not to mention that they probably didn't all forget how to play the HotS economy.

That being said practiced timings are gonna be thrown off a bit right?
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
April 10 2017 17:22 GMT
#54
On April 10 2017 09:24 TentativePanda wrote:
Can't wait to watch protoss wreck because they have unbeatable comps

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buuhuu for once in my life protoss can dictate the pace of the game buuuuuhuuuu
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 17:34:09
April 10 2017 17:32 GMT
#55
On April 10 2017 21:08 JoFar wrote:
Nice!

But don't know what to think about the ressources rollback ... so you really can't compare it to other LotV games and tournaments ... makes it a very low significance which race is stronger

But will be fun anyways.

Just don't see why they choose Maru as Terran Player. In the recent weeks he hasn't really shine. Unlike other terran players like aLive for example.


Hey Maru and aLive almost equal against eachother I think. Every series they've played has gone to the last map? Unlike say aLive vs Innovation.

(at least they didn't choose ByuN)
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 10 2017 17:47 GMT
#56
On April 11 2017 02:06 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 01:11 Elentos wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:50 Olli wrote:
Unfortunately I don't expect much from this since none of the players will be used to this at all.

Well all that's changing is the amount of minerals and gas per base (which increases). I don't think that will be that difficult to adapt to for them. Or even that different.

Not to mention that they probably didn't all forget how to play the HotS economy.

That being said practiced timings are gonna be thrown off a bit right?

Well, the most key difference will be that they can mine from their main bases longer than in regular LotV. So the 3rd/4th bases might come down later. Also delaying new bases will be slightly less impactful. But that should be just about all that changes if the mineral/gas counts are brought back to HotS level.
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zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
April 10 2017 18:00 GMT
#57
I'm way more excited for this event than ever reading this thread again. My eyes.
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Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 10 2017 19:35 GMT
#58
interesting
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 10 2017 19:36 GMT
#59
Looking to watching a days, will be pretty interesting and anything resembling PL format is good.
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StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
April 10 2017 19:51 GMT
#60
On April 11 2017 02:06 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 01:11 Elentos wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:50 Olli wrote:
Unfortunately I don't expect much from this since none of the players will be used to this at all.

Well all that's changing is the amount of minerals and gas per base (which increases). I don't think that will be that difficult to adapt to for them. Or even that different.

Not to mention that they probably didn't all forget how to play the HotS economy.

That being said practiced timings are gonna be thrown off a bit right?


No, timings will be exactly the same. As far as i know they will only change the ressources per base and not starting workers or macro mechanics.

Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 21:53:57
April 10 2017 21:53 GMT
#61
On April 10 2017 23:04 nighcol wrote:
The concept is fun but I don't get the economy rollback part. What are the people who are advocating it saying would be the benefit?


We want the ability to do 2 or 3 base builds where every decision is not "i HAVE to expand where's the closest geyser."
Detractors are bringing up HotS as a counter argument, but harass is still so powerful with the different units.... seems unlikely that we'll get swarmhost/deathball nightmare out of this.

Trying to find a middle ground between brood war variety and LotV game design, basically
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 23:06:27
April 10 2017 22:02 GMT
#62
On April 10 2017 23:04 nighcol wrote:
The concept is fun but I don't get the economy rollback part. What are the people who are advocating it saying would be the benefit?


Read the article I wrote on the subject titled, "Eulogy for the Six Pool". That should give you a pretty good summary of one of the reasons why people like me prefer the old economy.
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 10 2017 22:06 GMT
#63
yay let protoss turtle on 3 bases into unbeatable deathballs with air or whatever composition... looks like a lot of ppl forgot how end of hots looked like...
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Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 10 2017 22:14 GMT
#64
On April 11 2017 07:06 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
yay let protoss turtle on 3 bases into unbeatable deathballs with air or whatever composition... looks like a lot of ppl forgot how end of hots looked like...


the beauty of this game is that you should be allowed to play any style you want. As long as you have the choice.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 10 2017 22:19 GMT
#65
On April 11 2017 07:14 Meepman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 07:06 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
yay let protoss turtle on 3 bases into unbeatable deathballs with air or whatever composition... looks like a lot of ppl forgot how end of hots looked like...


the beauty of this game is that you should be allowed to play any style you want. As long as you have the choice.


This is so not true... everyone here who complains just hide behind fact that the ONE build is there because someone good played in tournament....

I'll just leave this there:
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Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 22:30:07
April 10 2017 22:29 GMT
#66
On April 11 2017 07:19 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 07:14 Meepman wrote:
On April 11 2017 07:06 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
yay let protoss turtle on 3 bases into unbeatable deathballs with air or whatever composition... looks like a lot of ppl forgot how end of hots looked like...


the beauty of this game is that you should be allowed to play any style you want. As long as you have the choice.


This is so not true... everyone here who complains just hide behind fact that the ONE build is there because someone good played in tournament....

I'll just leave this there: https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantLitigiousHorseDansGame


I think we agree on our goals (a solid fun game) but have a fundamentally different approach to getting there. It is not fun for me knowing that zerg is going hatch gas pool. and the pro scene is part of playing the game, we need to spice life up.

Oh, and don't worry... by "someone good" i know you mean pretty much "everybody good."
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 10 2017 22:33 GMT
#67
On April 11 2017 07:29 Meepman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 07:19 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
On April 11 2017 07:14 Meepman wrote:
On April 11 2017 07:06 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
yay let protoss turtle on 3 bases into unbeatable deathballs with air or whatever composition... looks like a lot of ppl forgot how end of hots looked like...


the beauty of this game is that you should be allowed to play any style you want. As long as you have the choice.


This is so not true... everyone here who complains just hide behind fact that the ONE build is there because someone good played in tournament....

I'll just leave this there: https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantLitigiousHorseDansGame


I think we agree on our goals (a solid fun game) but have a fundamentally different approach to getting there. It is not fun for me knowing that zerg is going hatch gas pool. and the pro scene is part of playing the game, we need to spice life up.

Oh, and don't worry... by "someone good" i know you mean pretty much "everybody good."


I guess we don't... for me it was always about fixing my gameplay and ability to face anything opponent throws at me and if i ever get decent (let's say top 50 master 1) and than i would continuously struggle against a single stile no matter what i do... than i would discuss it with someone in GM (or the progamer if i got the chance) and than i would probably make a suggestion...

But me being master 2 i have nothing to say about balance since im don't even play the game at my best
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 11 2017 00:38 GMT
#68
no aLive so terran gonna get rekt
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 11 2017 00:51 GMT
#69
Drop Maru add aLive for actual good terran team
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
April 11 2017 01:17 GMT
#70
LETS GO TERRAN !
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
April 11 2017 08:35 GMT
#71
I'll watch this. Not a fan of the old economy, but it'll be interesting, and itd be good to try and see if the decision holds up.

Only big problem I see, is would the players do this concept justice? Since it's not really productive of the players to practice the old economy since theres going to be bigger tournaments to always work towards.
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1194 Posts
April 12 2017 07:35 GMT
#72
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 12 2017 13:14 GMT
#73
Matches have started. We have a rematch of the GSL grand finals to kick things off! soO vs Stats gogogo http://play.afreecatv.com/thefinal
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 12 2017 14:51 GMT
#74
So far it doesn't seem like the additional resources by base have been having major impact on the games.
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 12 2017 15:17 GMT
#75
wow that game between Dark and Stats was so sick
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 12 2017 15:36 GMT
#76
this series is getting an unexpected turn. 6-4 for Zerg so far. soO is playing better than I expected
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 12 2017 15:39 GMT
#77
Team Protoss needs to work on better wall-ins.
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-12 15:51:17
April 12 2017 15:49 GMT
#78
The father of oracles too strong. Multitasking so well.

Just realised its 5:6. Gogo Classic, bring us to ace match!
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 12 2017 16:00 GMT
#79
gg, 7-5 victory for team Zerg
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 12 2017 16:01 GMT
#80
How have the games been?
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 12 2017 16:19 GMT
#81
On April 13 2017 01:01 Olli wrote:
How have the games been?


Pretty fun and entertaining imo, I didn't watch the first half of the games, but from the 8th game on it was pretty good.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 12 2017 17:39 GMT
#82
Look at that the Zerg players won. Shame they can't do that in premier tournaments
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B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
April 12 2017 18:21 GMT
#83
Will there be/is there an english cast of these games?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-12 22:07:22
April 12 2017 22:06 GMT
#84
VODs?

Ed: must be this one: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/20563009
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DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
April 13 2017 00:46 GMT
#85
Will there be an English stream? or a way for us to view the event from another timezone?
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 02:17:08
April 13 2017 02:16 GMT
#86
On April 13 2017 03:21 B0stonSC wrote:
Will there be/is there an english cast of these games?


Highly doubtful. Most of the english casters will be busy with other games. Each day of this will fall on the same day as the ASL, which of course means no Tastosis. The late start times (10pm KST) don't help either.
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DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
April 13 2017 03:30 GMT
#87
Is there anyway to watch these without having to pause every other second for it to load?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 13 2017 08:09 GMT
#88
They're uploading VODs to Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdbI2eIgcM4ESPCo0l2MVZg
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bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
April 13 2017 11:55 GMT
#89
That is an awesome idea to make this kind of tournaments !
And with all the 3 best players of each race !
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
April 13 2017 12:09 GMT
#90
No English stream / vods, right?
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 16:45:58
April 13 2017 16:31 GMT
#91
Anyone else think these games were 10x better than official unmodded games?

Edit: Would someone be willing to ask some of the players who played these games what they thought of the change?

Also, people should realize the amount of minerals per patch is all that changed, not the number of workers at the start or per patch.

Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
April 13 2017 16:36 GMT
#92
On April 10 2017 13:06 PtitDrogo wrote:
Kinda sad to see the "Base resources(Minerals and Gas) rollback as HotS" implemented, I was really hoping only TL Edgelords were fighting for it.
Oh well, guess seeing protoss turtling on 3 bases for ever will hopefully be a good reminder.


Agreed. Not to the say that the current situation is the best possible, but HoTS was definitely worse. It's sad that while willing to experiment, they choose the old model rather than a new one.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 13 2017 16:44 GMT
#93
On April 14 2017 01:31 FarmI3oy wrote:
Anyone else think these games were 10x better than official unmodded games?

Nope.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 13 2017 16:47 GMT
#94
I didn't watch the games but it's only more minerals per base right? So it doesn't make a huge difference for most builds anyway because the money you get through the 12 worker start is what speeds up the game (makes you wanna expand faster, etc)
They should rather try double harvester method with 6 worker start
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 13 2017 16:59 GMT
#95
On April 14 2017 01:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I didn't watch the games but it's only more minerals per base right? So it doesn't make a huge difference for most builds anyway because the money you get through the 12 worker start is what speeds up the game (makes you wanna expand faster, etc)
They should rather try double harvester method with 6 worker start


I don't know I think people need to watch the vods. The thing that I noticed was that 3 bases got saturated quickly and stayed saturated for the first ~12 minutes of the game.

Players were far more willing to trade armies and units; rather than, building up and worrying about losing everything then not having an economy to fall back on. Because LOTV has so many easy to use harass units, turtling did not seem to be an issue.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 13 2017 17:11 GMT
#96
Hm ok that makes sense actually. If you know you have more ressources you might trade more. I guess i'll have to watch the vods
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 15 2017 20:45 GMT
#97
They renamed the tournament to Faction Wars.

RIP the memes.
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StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
April 16 2017 01:21 GMT
#98
On April 14 2017 01:31 FarmI3oy wrote:
Anyone else think these games were 10x better than official unmodded games?

Edit: Would someone be willing to ask some of the players who played these games what they thought of the change?

Also, people should realize the amount of minerals per patch is all that changed, not the number of workers at the start or per patch.



those games were amazing
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 16 2017 01:35 GMT
#99
On April 16 2017 05:45 Elentos wrote:
They renamed the tournament to Faction Wars.

RIP the memes.


Most disappointing re-name since team afnigga got renamed.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:05 GMT
#100
Day 2 of Race Faction Wars is now live!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:12 GMT
#101
TY vs Dark game 1
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jackacea
Profile Joined April 2014
66 Posts
April 16 2017 13:16 GMT
#102
Do you have a link by any chance? I cant find the tournament in the side bar
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:17 GMT
#103
On April 16 2017 22:16 jackacea wrote:
Do you have a link by any chance? I cant find the tournament in the side bar

Check the OP
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
April 16 2017 13:17 GMT
#104
Should be http://play.afreecatv.com/thefinal but it does not load to me for some reason
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:18 GMT
#105
On April 16 2017 22:16 jackacea wrote:
Do you have a link by any chance? I cant find the tournament in the side bar


http://play.afreecatv.com/thefinal/191165162
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:23 GMT
#106
So far I have concluded that zerg is OP.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:24 GMT
#107
On April 16 2017 22:23 Phredxor wrote:
So far I have concluded that zerg is OP.

Strong analysis.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 13:25:22
April 16 2017 13:25 GMT
#108
Think ByuN would have been better than TY, since these matches are all TvZ.
Wonder why he couldn't be here.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 16 2017 13:28 GMT
#109
On April 16 2017 22:25 pvsnp wrote:
Think ByuN would have been better than TY, since these matches are all TvZ.
Wonder why he couldn't be here.


alive would have been better than either of those two
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:32 GMT
#110
On April 16 2017 22:25 pvsnp wrote:
Think ByuN would have been better than TY, since these matches are all TvZ.
Wonder why he couldn't be here.

Maybe he didn't want to play this. Maybe they didn't ask him to begin with.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 13:34:56
April 16 2017 13:34 GMT
#111
Maybe he didn't want to play this. Maybe they didn't ask him to begin with.

I thought the OP said he was on Team Terran?

Hmm, I must have misremembered.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:34 GMT
#112
On April 16 2017 22:34 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maybe he didn't want to play this. Maybe they didn't ask him to begin with.

I thought the OP said he was on Team Terran?

Never at any point.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:36 GMT
#113
Dark's baneling speed finishes around the time the Terrans finish their stim today.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 13:37 GMT
#114
brutal drop
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jackacea
Profile Joined April 2014
66 Posts
April 16 2017 13:39 GMT
#115
Thank you guys!
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:40 GMT
#116
Dark good player.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:40 GMT
#117
Dark running circles around Inno
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 13:40 GMT
#118
Dark is gosu.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:41 GMT
#119
Further strengthening my conclusion of Zerg OPness.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 13:43:36
April 16 2017 13:42 GMT
#120
Inno did a bit worse than TY imo. Granted both lost so who cares.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 13:45:00
April 16 2017 13:43 GMT
#121
Waiting for someone to go battlecruiser/raven on 3 bases

e: perfect map
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 13:45 GMT
#122
Dark's biggest mistake was creating the Ohana group
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 13:47 GMT
#123
On April 16 2017 22:45 NinjaToss wrote:
Dark's biggest mistake was creating the Ohana group

Family is never a mistake.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:50 GMT
#124
Let us hope he makes RO16 and tries it again.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 16 2017 13:51 GMT
#125
On April 16 2017 22:25 pvsnp wrote:
Think ByuN would have been better than TY, since these matches are all TvZ.
Wonder why he couldn't be here.


TY has the best lategame out of any of them. I really wanna see at least one map go that late
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April 16 2017 13:52 GMT
#126
corruptor daddy back in town
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April 16 2017 13:53 GMT
#127
cancel that thor, you fool
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Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 13:55 GMT
#128
Nice attack.
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April 16 2017 13:55 GMT
#129
aLive would have smoked this scrub
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April 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#130
Holy slaughter batman.
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April 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#131
Wow Terrans win a map
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#132
Maru puts one on the board, well played.
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April 16 2017 13:58 GMT
#133
Dark must have felt pity letting the weakest member of team T beat him
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Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 16 2017 13:59 GMT
#134
Hey that was pretty good
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 16 2017 13:59 GMT
#135
soO or Solar? Hm
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 14:00 GMT
#136
Family is never a mistake.

As he was unceremoniously disowned by them 0-4, he knew in his heart that it had been a mistake.
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April 16 2017 14:01 GMT
#137
I hope i am not too late :O
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April 16 2017 14:02 GMT
#138
On April 16 2017 23:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope i am not too late :O

You only missed 3 out of 12 games.
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 14:02 GMT
#139
I hope i am not too late :O

You just missed a great game, but nah you're not too late.
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April 16 2017 14:04 GMT
#140
Great, and Maru even won :>
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 14:05 GMT
#141
so care explain to me why Dark didn't make any Air units beside those 4 Corruptors?
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April 16 2017 14:06 GMT
#142
On April 16 2017 23:05 NinjaToss wrote:
so care explain to me why Dark didn't make any Air units beside those 4 Corruptors?

Those 4 corruptors were the Ohana. It was complete without any further additions.

I'm more confused why he didn't make an infestation pit earlier. Like as he was killing Maru's 4th base.
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April 16 2017 14:07 GMT
#143
Wait mech!?

Maru going mech seems legit. I can't remember ever seeing him use mech before.
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April 16 2017 14:08 GMT
#144
On April 16 2017 23:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:05 NinjaToss wrote:
so care explain to me why Dark didn't make any Air units beside those 4 Corruptors?

Those 4 corruptors were the Ohana. It was complete without any further additions.

I'm more confused why he didn't make an infestation pit earlier. Like as he was killing Maru's 4th base.

he was trying to kill Maru before 3/3, if he had teched to hive earlier he would've died mid transition anyway
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Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 14:08 GMT
#145
Mechanic hype.
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April 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#146
On April 16 2017 23:08 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 16 2017 23:05 NinjaToss wrote:
so care explain to me why Dark didn't make any Air units beside those 4 Corruptors?

Those 4 corruptors were the Ohana. It was complete without any further additions.

I'm more confused why he didn't make an infestation pit earlier. Like as he was killing Maru's 4th base.

he was trying to kill Maru before 3/3, if he had teched to hive earlier he would've died mid transition anyway

Well he got most of the army and the 4th base. If he throws down an infestation pit right as he's doing that he could have infestors as Maru does the 3/3 death push. Could have helped.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#147
On April 16 2017 23:08 Phredxor wrote:
Mechanic hype.

wrong, it's
M E C H A N I C
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#148
On April 16 2017 23:07 pvsnp wrote:
Wait mech!?

Maru going mech seems legit. I can't remember ever seeing him use mech before.

I feel like he did it a few times on like KSS in HotS when lots of people were going mech. but maybe I'm just merging a bunch of terran games together in my memory
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#149
On April 16 2017 23:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:08 Phredxor wrote:
Mechanic hype.

wrong, it's
M E C H A N I C

But by Maru

Historically not his thing is it
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Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 14:09 GMT
#150
On April 16 2017 23:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:08 Phredxor wrote:
Mechanic hype.

wrong, it's
M E C H A N I C


Yeah I know but i'm sleepy. Too much effort you know?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#151
On April 16 2017 23:07 pvsnp wrote:
Wait mech!?

Maru going mech seems legit. I can't remember ever seeing him use mech before.

he meched plenty on KR ladder after the Bogus revolution
and ofc in HotS when it was broken (famous game vs Life on EL for example)
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#152
On April 16 2017 23:09 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:07 pvsnp wrote:
Wait mech!?

Maru going mech seems legit. I can't remember ever seeing him use mech before.

I feel like he did it a few times on like KSS in HotS when lots of people were going mech. but maybe I'm just merging a bunch of terran games together in my memory

In 2015 he tried mech. Usually what ended up happening is that ByuL outright killed him with 2-base muta.
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April 16 2017 14:11 GMT
#153
this stream keeps freezing for me
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 14:12 GMT
#154
On April 16 2017 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
this stream keeps freezing for me

keep F5ing until Afreeca redirects you to a server in your proximity
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 14:12 GMT
#155
And this is why you don't go mech.
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April 16 2017 14:13 GMT
#156
keep F5ing until Afreeca redirects you to a server in your proximity

Lol does that really work?
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 14:13 GMT
#157
On April 16 2017 23:12 pvsnp wrote:
And this is why you don't go mech.

Because if your push fails some crazy person could decide to ling/roach/ravager all-in you for the next 8 minutes? Hmm
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 14:14 GMT
#158
well I guess that was an interesting build from Maru
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April 16 2017 14:16 GMT
#159
On April 16 2017 23:13 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
keep F5ing until Afreeca redirects you to a server in your proximity

Lol does that really work?

It should, iirc there are only 2 addresses that are close to Europe and that's why it usually lags like hell for Europeans. There's a way to force your browser to always connect to Afreeca via a pre-selected address, but I don't remember how to do it.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 14:21 GMT
#160
More M E C H A N I C
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Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 16 2017 14:21 GMT
#161
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'
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April 16 2017 14:22 GMT
#162
This looks like mech.
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April 16 2017 14:22 GMT
#163
It should, iirc there are only 2 addresses that are close to Europe and that's why it usually lags like hell for Europeans. There's a way to force your browser to always connect to Afreeca via a pre-selected address, but I don't remember how to do it.

Ok then, won't question it.
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April 16 2017 14:23 GMT
#164
ahhh soO still knows nothing
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United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 14:23 GMT
#165
On April 16 2017 23:21 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'

avilo already confirmed in the past that TY was a brovilo because one time TY built a sensor tower against a protoss that was going for a blink all in and avilo invented that strat so TY must have been watching his stream.
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April 16 2017 14:24 GMT
#166
On April 16 2017 23:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:21 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'

avilo already confirmed in the past that TY was a brovilo because one time TY built a sensor tower against a protoss that was going for a blink all in and avilo invented that strat so TY must have been watching his stream.

I can't actually tell if you are making this up.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
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April 16 2017 14:25 GMT
#167
On April 16 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:23 Shellshock wrote:
On April 16 2017 23:21 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'

avilo already confirmed in the past that TY was a brovilo because one time TY built a sensor tower against a protoss that was going for a blink all in and avilo invented that strat so TY must have been watching his stream.

I can't actually tell if you are making this up.

TBF though, every korean terran watches avilo's stream and steals builds
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#168
On April 16 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:23 Shellshock wrote:
On April 16 2017 23:21 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'

avilo already confirmed in the past that TY was a brovilo because one time TY built a sensor tower against a protoss that was going for a blink all in and avilo invented that strat so TY must have been watching his stream.

I can't actually tell if you are making this up.

100% legit. avilo said TY got the idea from watching his stream

TY was probably stream sniping him at the time
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April 16 2017 14:26 GMT
#169
ah yes, thor/medivac, I know this composition
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 14:26 GMT
#170
Mech so good.
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April 16 2017 14:27 GMT
#171
TY had a great start to this game and it's not gonna matter.
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April 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#172
Do Koreans even know who avilo is? Or care?
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April 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#173
No english broadcast I assume?
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April 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#174
On April 16 2017 23:28 Railgan wrote:
No english broadcast I assume?

Nope.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#175
Pretty nice defense even though he fucked up pretty hard not having turrets ready, and then losing 2 thors to zerglings whihle hellions chilled at tower.
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April 16 2017 14:28 GMT
#176
The thors in this game are already war heroes.
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Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 14:29 GMT
#177
Hellbat drops. Bring back 2013!
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April 16 2017 14:29 GMT
#178
He tries so hard, and he came so far. But in the end he's gonna run out of units eventually.
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April 16 2017 14:30 GMT
#179
Supply, always look at the supply.
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April 16 2017 14:31 GMT
#180
On April 16 2017 23:29 Phredxor wrote:
Hellbat drops. Bring back 2013!

The two best TvT eras - when blueflame hellions were imba and when blueflame hellbats were imba.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 14:31 GMT
#181
damn, soO is scary
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April 16 2017 14:31 GMT
#182
On April 16 2017 23:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:29 Phredxor wrote:
Hellbat drops. Bring back 2013!

The two best TvT eras - when blueflame hellions were imba and when blueflame hellbats were imba.

the best TvT era was gas first BO wins, the games took the least time then
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April 16 2017 14:32 GMT
#183
On April 16 2017 23:27 Elentos wrote:
TY had a great start to this game and it's not gonna matter.

Yes, the old "not build anti-air and get from an advantageous position to a losing one" strat.
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April 16 2017 14:33 GMT
#184
Can these guys stop with mech? Pls?
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April 16 2017 14:34 GMT
#185
On April 16 2017 23:32 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:27 Elentos wrote:
TY had a great start to this game and it's not gonna matter.

Yes, the old "not build anti-air and get from an advantageous position to a losing one" strat.

It's not like he didn't build anti-air! He just did it way too late...
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 14:38:47
April 16 2017 14:37 GMT
#186
Can these guys stop with mech? Pls?

I assume the HotS-resource patches must make it easier to mech.
Or maybe the Terrans are just like "I'm using up GSL practice time."
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April 16 2017 14:39 GMT
#187
On April 16 2017 23:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 16 2017 23:29 Phredxor wrote:
Hellbat drops. Bring back 2013!

The two best TvT eras - when blueflame hellions were imba and when blueflame hellbats were imba.

the best TvT era was gas first BO wins, the games took the least time then

Nah, TvT was the best matchup of WoL for sure!

Bio tank vs bio tank and mech vs mech were really awesome matchups. Mech vs Bio was kinda boring tho (a lot of turtling and a lot of doom dropping and not very fun fights...)
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United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 14:40 GMT
#188
On April 16 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 23:23 Shellshock wrote:
On April 16 2017 23:21 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Swear to god I just heard them say 'avilo terran'

avilo already confirmed in the past that TY was a brovilo because one time TY built a sensor tower against a protoss that was going for a blink all in and avilo invented that strat so TY must have been watching his stream.

I can't actually tell if you are making this up.

wasn't quite as I remembered but but avilo was doing it for MONTHs before TY even thought about it
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April 16 2017 14:41 GMT
#189
Lol what a build.
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April 16 2017 14:41 GMT
#190
That was terrible.
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April 16 2017 14:42 GMT
#191
Just paying the terrans back for their mech builds.
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April 16 2017 14:43 GMT
#192
Sending a few zerglings through the nydus to immediately die apparently doesn't work
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 14:44 GMT
#193
that was an interesting build from soO I guess
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 14:44 GMT
#194
Can Inno get revenge for Monday? Or will he get smashed again?
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April 16 2017 14:49 GMT
#195
ah the panic cyclones
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 16 2017 14:54 GMT
#196
Pretty sure these last 2 weeks are the best Solar has ever been at ZvT
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April 16 2017 14:56 GMT
#197
That engagement was insane by Solar.
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New Zealand15076 Posts
April 16 2017 14:57 GMT
#198
Inno Thor incoming.
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April 16 2017 14:57 GMT
#199
2 fact tanks vs LBM
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April 16 2017 15:01 GMT
#200
Good game though
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April 16 2017 15:01 GMT
#201
Does inno really need more medivacs?
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Sweden33719 Posts
April 16 2017 15:04 GMT
#202
Crazy game o.o
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:04:51
April 16 2017 15:04 GMT
#203
On April 17 2017 00:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Does inno really need more medivacs?


He just lost most of them to a fungal
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April 16 2017 15:05 GMT
#204
Inno pulling a Maru
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April 16 2017 15:07 GMT
#205
Looks pretty over now :x.
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April 16 2017 15:08 GMT
#206
On April 17 2017 00:04 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Does inno really need more medivacs?


He just lost most of them to a fungal

Well yeah NOW, my comment was made when he already had quite a few and still made three rounds instead of libs (he then made a few libs)
Was just a bit weird
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:11:54
April 16 2017 15:11 GMT
#207
Damn, watching that reminded me why Inno is supposed to be a killing machine.
One hell of a game.
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Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 15:11 GMT
#208
wow that was an insane game
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April 16 2017 15:12 GMT
#209
Abyssal Reef is such a good map, i hope that one is in the map pool for a few years :>
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April 16 2017 15:13 GMT
#210
On April 17 2017 00:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Abyssal Reef is such a good map, i hope that one is in the map pool for a few years :>

Please no
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 15:14 GMT
#211
Please no

Please yes, it always has awesome TvZ games.
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#212
Yeah Abyssal is my favorite of LotV. It's in the WW/KSS/Overgrowth tier.




Daaaahk
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April 16 2017 15:15 GMT
#213
Somebody is having fun the with the camera
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April 16 2017 15:16 GMT
#214
On April 17 2017 00:15 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah Abyssal is my favorite of LotV. It's in the WW/KSS/Overgrowth tier.

That doesn't mean it - and that goes for any of those other maps too - should be played that long.
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April 16 2017 15:17 GMT
#215
On April 17 2017 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:04 Fango wrote:
On April 17 2017 00:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Does inno really need more medivacs?


He just lost most of them to a fungal

Well yeah NOW, my comment was made when he already had quite a few and still made three rounds instead of libs (he then made a few libs)
Was just a bit weird


Ik it's just funny seeing people say he's got too many meds and then they're all gone
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April 16 2017 15:17 GMT
#216
On April 17 2017 00:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:15 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah Abyssal is my favorite of LotV. It's in the WW/KSS/Overgrowth tier.

That doesn't mean it - and that goes for any of those other maps too - should be played that long.

Oh yeah probably not. Though i would rather have a map pool which is full of really good maps and then play on that for quite a while than changing a lot and get mediocre maps
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:21:11
April 16 2017 15:18 GMT
#217
On April 17 2017 00:17 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 17 2017 00:04 Fango wrote:
On April 17 2017 00:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Does inno really need more medivacs?


He just lost most of them to a fungal

Well yeah NOW, my comment was made when he already had quite a few and still made three rounds instead of libs (he then made a few libs)
Was just a bit weird


Ik it's just funny seeing people say he's got too many meds and then they're all gone

You have to look at it the other way, if he would have built less he would have lost less there :O
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Profile Joined July 2016
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April 16 2017 15:19 GMT
#218
On April 17 2017 00:15 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah Abyssal is my favorite of LotV. It's in the WW/KSS/Overgrowth tier.




Daaaahk


It does produce a lot of interesting games compared with other LotV maps. Hopefully blizz learn fromt his instead of making more Dasan Stations
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April 16 2017 15:19 GMT
#219
On April 17 2017 00:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:15 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah Abyssal is my favorite of LotV. It's in the WW/KSS/Overgrowth tier.

That doesn't mean it - and that goes for any of those other maps too - should be played that long.

I honestly could play on these 4 maps for years, just as I could play only CB in BW :p.
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April 16 2017 15:21 GMT
#220
Holy shit that drone lineup BBQ
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April 16 2017 15:22 GMT
#221
Rouch/ravenger too strong.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:24:04
April 16 2017 15:23 GMT
#222
On April 17 2017 00:22 Ej_ wrote:
Rouch/ravenger too strong.


mech too weak
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April 16 2017 15:24 GMT
#223
One thousand dead supply depots later...
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April 16 2017 15:24 GMT
#224
On April 17 2017 00:23 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:22 Ej_ wrote:
Rouch/ravenger too strong.


mech too weak

Marine based mech is definitely too weak
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pvsnp
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April 16 2017 15:24 GMT
#225
One thousand dead supply depots later...

Dark really hates supply. Why kill CCs when you can get supply depots?
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April 16 2017 15:25 GMT
#226
On April 17 2017 00:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:23 Fango wrote:
On April 17 2017 00:22 Ej_ wrote:
Rouch/ravenger too strong.


mech too weak

Marine based mech is definitely too weak


maybe innovation too weak?
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April 16 2017 15:26 GMT
#227
maybe innovation too weak?

Definitely this.
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April 16 2017 15:26 GMT
#228
That fungal/bile on the double drop.

All according to keikaku.
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April 16 2017 15:27 GMT
#229
On April 17 2017 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
That fungal/bile on the double drop.

All according to keikaku.


(keikaku means plan)
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April 16 2017 15:28 GMT
#230
Dark doesn't make enough spores.
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April 16 2017 15:28 GMT
#231
That viper is the MVP.
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April 16 2017 15:29 GMT
#232
TY felt that blinding cloud deep down on his steam XD
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
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April 16 2017 15:29 GMT
#233
I think infestors should fly and be invisible instead of being burrowed, opinions?
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April 16 2017 15:30 GMT
#234
On April 17 2017 00:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think infestors should fly and be invisible instead of being burrowed, opinions?

vipers should be ground units and consume should be an upgrade
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April 16 2017 15:30 GMT
#235
I think infestors should fly and be invisible instead of being burrowed, opinions?

They need to have 8 armor too.
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April 16 2017 15:31 GMT
#236
On April 17 2017 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think infestors should fly and be invisible instead of being burrowed, opinions?

vipers should be ground units and consume should be an upgrade

Them pulling stuff would look even more funny
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Chile913 Posts
April 16 2017 15:33 GMT
#237
Why is the stream not in the live event sections? Also is the stream extremely laggy for you guys too?
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 15:33 GMT
#238
On April 17 2017 00:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
On April 17 2017 00:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think infestors should fly and be invisible instead of being burrowed, opinions?

vipers should be ground units and consume should be an upgrade

Them pulling stuff would look even more funny

Drag 'em into the dirt
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 15:34 GMT
#239
On April 17 2017 00:33 Reptilia wrote:
Why is the stream not in the live event sections? Also is the stream extremely laggy for you guys too?

F5
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 15:35 GMT
#240
4-5? That's not right
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April 16 2017 15:35 GMT
#241
The main stream lags for me even when I refresh, but on TY's stream it's fine
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 15:41 GMT
#242
Wow that sick Maru micro.
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April 16 2017 15:42 GMT
#243
Maru still has it
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pvsnp
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April 16 2017 15:42 GMT
#244
F5

Can confirm, if you F5 enough lag gets better. Not perfect, but better.
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Chile913 Posts
April 16 2017 15:42 GMT
#245
On April 17 2017 00:35 Fango wrote:
The main stream lags for me even when I refresh, but on TY's stream it's fine


Yup, thanks. Works perfectly here.
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April 16 2017 15:43 GMT
#246
C'mon Solar, choke a bit and give us the ace match.
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April 16 2017 15:46 GMT
#247
Wow CC first.
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Elentos
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 15:47 GMT
#248
On April 17 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:
C'mon Solar, choke a bit and give us the ace match.

Doesn't need that much choking. Solar has to lose 2 and win 1. Which is entirely possible given who he's playing.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:49:15
April 16 2017 15:48 GMT
#249
M E C H A N I C

e: ok Maru's dead
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 15:49 GMT
#250
Mech on WW cross spawns.....

Oh look a Nydus.
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April 16 2017 15:50 GMT
#251
Solar moving that Overseer around, he's like o.O where is production
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#252
He would have taken almost no damage if he walled the natural

Typical Maru
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#253
3 starports

what is this build even
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#254
3 starports

what is this build even

BC rush?
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:51:42
April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#255
On April 17 2017 00:51 Ej_ wrote:
3 starports

what is this build even

avilo does this build. not a joke comment
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Profile Joined July 2016
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April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#256
Ravens? BCs? speed banshees? :o
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Profile Joined January 2017
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April 16 2017 15:51 GMT
#257
avilo does this build

Maru stream snipes avilo confirmed.
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April 16 2017 15:52 GMT
#258
No archon matches? Would have been an amazing opportunity to see 3v3 Archon with the 3 best of each race!
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April 16 2017 15:52 GMT
#259
On April 17 2017 00:51 Fango wrote:
Ravens? BCs? speed banshees? :o


speed banshee after all
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:54:21
April 16 2017 15:53 GMT
#260
Maru is just like I will build some marines and some hellions and some tanks and some banshees, some vikings, and a thor cuz why not.

My god did it actually work.
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April 16 2017 15:54 GMT
#261
Now, this is a HotS game.
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April 16 2017 15:54 GMT
#262
On April 17 2017 00:54 Ej_ wrote:
Now, this is a HotS game.

Maru voted for HotS being the better game in the TL thread
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April 16 2017 15:55 GMT
#263
Solar should tag out for Snute now to make mass SH.
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pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 15:57:32
April 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#264
Now, this is a HotS game.

With speed banshees and 12 workers, it's a HotS game on LotV speed.
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April 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#265
This build is probably stronger in LotV as Solar would be running out of money in the natural now.
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Shellshock
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April 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#266
I'll admit that Maru is playing this build different than how avilo plays it
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#267
Games like these are when I miss Bbyong
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April 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#268
I'll admit that Maru is playing this build different than how avilo plays it

And by different I mean better.
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April 16 2017 15:58 GMT
#269
ngl these games so far are better than what we're seeing in recent tournaments. maybe it's just nostalgia from TvZ in HoTS being so great (for some of the time)
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April 16 2017 15:59 GMT
#270
On April 17 2017 00:57 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'll admit that Maru is playing this build different than how avilo plays it

And by different I mean better.




We need that BC transition tho
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April 16 2017 15:59 GMT
#271
This game is awesome. Just awesome.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:01:11
April 16 2017 15:59 GMT
#272
Solar gonna be selecting every overlord he has and spamming that morph key :D
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April 16 2017 15:59 GMT
#273
On April 17 2017 00:58 Fango wrote:
ngl these games so far are better than what we're seeing in recent tournaments. maybe it's just nostalgia from TvZ in HoTS being so great (for some of the time)

It's because you don't get to see these 6 players as often as now in a bo12 :p
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 16:00 GMT
#274
Honestly tho, no reason why this wouldn't work with LotV eco. Maru has had more bases secured entire game.
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Elentos
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:00 GMT
#275
On April 17 2017 00:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 00:58 Fango wrote:
ngl these games so far are better than what we're seeing in recent tournaments. maybe it's just nostalgia from TvZ in HoTS being so great (for some of the time)

It's because you don't get to see these 6 players as often as now in a bo12 :p

It's not like these players couldn't have games this good on regular LotV
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:02:17
April 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#276
Solar be like what the motherfucking hell did I just play.
I can totally picture Maru with a huge shiteating grin right now.
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April 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#277
Imagine how good Starcraft would be if they removed Protoss and made every tournament into race war format.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#278
Now one for TY and one for Solar so we go to ace.
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April 16 2017 16:01 GMT
#279
it all comes down to TY and Solar! The weak points of each team although not weak by any means.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:03:59
April 16 2017 16:02 GMT
#280
Imagine how good Starcraft would be if they removed Protoss and made every tournament into race war format.


Hear, hear! I second the motion. All in favor?
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April 16 2017 16:03 GMT
#281
On April 17 2017 01:01 Ej_ wrote:
Imagine how good Starcraft would be if they removed Protoss and made every tournament into race war format.


This
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
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April 16 2017 16:04 GMT
#282
On April 17 2017 01:01 Ej_ wrote:
Imagine how good Starcraft would be if they removed Protoss and made every tournament into race war format.

Would get old pretty fast :D
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April 16 2017 16:06 GMT
#283
should just be pure pvp because it's the most skilled matchup - DarkLordOlli probably
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April 16 2017 16:07 GMT
#284
On April 17 2017 01:06 Shellshock wrote:
should just be pure pvp because it's the most skilled matchup - DarkLordOlli probably

Olli only accepts HotS PvP. LotV PvP is an abomination to him.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 16:09 GMT
#285
I always found it funny how progamers get away with so much greed in their games. They wouldn't survive a day at 4k mmr.
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Elentos
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:09 GMT
#286
On April 17 2017 01:09 Ej_ wrote:
I always found it funny how progamers get away with so much greed in their games. They wouldn't survive a day at 4k mmr.

They would kill 7 roaches with 2 marines
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South Korea2105 Posts
April 16 2017 16:09 GMT
#287
On April 17 2017 01:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:01 Ej_ wrote:
Imagine how good Starcraft would be if they removed Protoss and made every tournament into race war format.

Would get old pretty fast :D


not faster than adept phoenix though
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:10 GMT
#288
Oh Solar is doing the mutas into 1/1 roaches
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April 16 2017 16:10 GMT
#289
TY should have gone for mechanic
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April 16 2017 16:11 GMT
#290
On April 17 2017 01:10 Shellshock wrote:
TY should have gone for mechanic

Solar's build actually used to be an all-in done vs mech in HotS :x
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Elentos
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April 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#291
On April 17 2017 01:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:10 Shellshock wrote:
TY should have gone for mechanic

Solar's build actually used to be an all-in done vs mech in HotS :x

It's also one of Leenock's favorites against bio I believe.
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April 16 2017 16:13 GMT
#292
On April 17 2017 01:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:11 Ej_ wrote:
On April 17 2017 01:10 Shellshock wrote:
TY should have gone for mechanic

Solar's build actually used to be an all-in done vs mech in HotS :x

It's also one of Leenock's favorites against bio I believe.

Yes, delicious Terran tears during that GSL group.
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April 16 2017 16:13 GMT
#293
aLive definitely should have been on this team instead of TY
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April 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#294
aLive definitely should have been on this team instead of TY

Who?
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April 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#295
There have been more thors made today than in entire lifespan of LotV.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#296
On April 17 2017 01:14 Ej_ wrote:
There have been more thors made today than in entire lifespan of LotV.

idk lillekanin still isn't retired
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April 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#297
On April 17 2017 01:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:14 Ej_ wrote:
There have been more thors made today than in entire lifespan of LotV.

idk lillekanin still isn't retired

he only makes cyclones and reapers now
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:16 GMT
#298
On April 17 2017 01:15 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:15 Shellshock wrote:
On April 17 2017 01:14 Ej_ wrote:
There have been more thors made today than in entire lifespan of LotV.

idk lillekanin still isn't retired

he only makes cyclones and reapers now

bring back proxy thor
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:16 GMT
#299
Damn Solar's bank already
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#300
On April 17 2017 01:06 Shellshock wrote:
should just be pure pvp because it's the most skilled matchup - DarkLordOlli probably

It IS the pure skill matchup.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#301
repair that thor
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#302
Abyssal = awesome TvZ.
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April 16 2017 16:19 GMT
#303
On April 17 2017 01:18 Ej_ wrote:
repair that thor

there should be a research for immortality protocol for thors and tanks like Swann's ability in co op
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April 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#304
That was epic, but Solar lost as soon as he got BL.
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April 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#305
That was really strong by TY.
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Shellshock
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United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:21 GMT
#306
embarrassing loss for Solar
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:23:20
April 16 2017 16:22 GMT
#307
Now it's Solar's–and Zerg's–last chance. Ace match?
Who would the aces be anyhow? I'd guess Maru and Dark.
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Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 16 2017 16:24 GMT
#308
On April 17 2017 01:22 pvsnp wrote:
Now it's Solar's–and Zerg's–last chance. Ace match?
Who would the aces be anyhow? I'd guess Maru and Dark.


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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:24:38
April 16 2017 16:24 GMT
#309
All yall were doubting Maru and TY
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 16 2017 16:24 GMT
#310
"If map score is equal, the two tied teams play a best-of-3 set where each player plays once." - Liquipedia

I see, that's an interesting format.
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:25 GMT
#311
On April 17 2017 01:24 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:22 pvsnp wrote:
Now it's Solar's–and Zerg's–last chance. Ace match?
Who would the aces be anyhow? I'd guess Maru and Dark.


"If map score is equal, the two tied teams play a best-of-3 set where each player plays once." - Liquipedia

That's for which team gets in the finals. If the score is 6:6, a 13th set is played.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 16:26 GMT
#312
they play all maps, the tiebreaker is only after all 3 series are played out and deciding the finalists is impossible
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#313
On April 17 2017 01:24 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
"If map score is equal, the two tied teams play a best-of-3 set where each player plays once." - Liquipedia

I see, that's an interesting format.


Yea, more games for us. I wonder if they still pay out for those maps though.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#314
that marks another mech game
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:30 GMT
#315
TY is going to take it easy from here
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Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 16 2017 16:30 GMT
#316
Think they were trying to show units lost but they kept bringing up structures instead.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:31 GMT
#317
Cyclone anti-air is actually offensive to me as a Terran player.
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 16 2017 16:32 GMT
#318
On April 17 2017 01:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 01:24 Darkn3ssFallz wrote:
On April 17 2017 01:22 pvsnp wrote:
Now it's Solar's–and Zerg's–last chance. Ace match?
Who would the aces be anyhow? I'd guess Maru and Dark.


"If map score is equal, the two tied teams play a best-of-3 set where each player plays once." - Liquipedia

That's for which team gets in the finals. If the score is 6:6, a 13th set is played.


Oh. I was hyped to see them all play once more
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 16 2017 16:32 GMT
#319
TY following Maru and jumping on the avilo train.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 16 2017 16:34 GMT
#320
wow Solar should know that you split off 3 shark roaches into each mineral base.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:34 GMT
#321
this is unexpectedly bad harass defense from TY
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:35:19
April 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#322
On April 17 2017 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
this is unexpectedly bad harass defense from TY

his army can't really kill the roaches
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#323
Ace match it is.
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:35 GMT
#324
On April 17 2017 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
this is unexpectedly bad harass defense from TY

He's making sure we get to the ace match
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 16 2017 16:39 GMT
#325
More SC --> more love.
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maruzest
Profile Joined October 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
April 16 2017 16:39 GMT
#326
INnoVation vs Dark
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:41:00
April 16 2017 16:40 GMT
#327
So Inno for the Terran ace. I guess he has the history, even if today has been meh.
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Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 16 2017 16:42 GMT
#328
Are they allowed to call aLive in for the ace match
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Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-04-16 16:45:05
April 16 2017 16:44 GMT
#329
Inno vs Dark on Newkirk, a classic.
It's time to see who is the real ace for SK Telecom.
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April 16 2017 16:48 GMT
#330
oh inno? guess team terran is throwing
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:49 GMT
#331
On April 17 2017 01:44 pvsnp wrote:
Inno vs Dark on Newkirk, a classic.
It's time to see who is the real ace for SK Telecom.

Nobody, the team is dead.

Also Dark already won against Inno twice today, should count for something.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
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April 16 2017 16:51 GMT
#332
Yes, it counts for 2 wins.

And now his teammates couldn't pick up the slack. RIP.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2017 16:53 GMT
#333
I really like the new hellion skin, but the whole army would need skins of that style
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 16:55 GMT
#334
Dark wasn't happy with the rate at which Inno was pushing so he went in first
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 16 2017 16:56 GMT
#335
Patience is a virtue... and a Protoss player, Elentos.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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April 16 2017 16:57 GMT
#336
Dark operates with 1 baneling per marine.
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April 16 2017 16:57 GMT
#337
Dark just owned this kid today
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Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2017 16:57 GMT
#338
Innovation what a noob :/
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#339
it wouldnt have seemed right if the terran b team beat the zerg a team tho
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Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#340
Dark is disgustingly good.
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April 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#341
On April 17 2017 01:57 Elentos wrote:
Dark operates with 1 baneling per marine.

Is this our new stat, like APM/EAPM?

BPM?
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 16 2017 16:59 GMT
#342
I guess that settles it. Zerg OP
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
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April 16 2017 16:59 GMT
#343
Good to confirm living things > machines.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 16 2017 17:01 GMT
#344
Who decision was it to send Inno. Maru beat all 3 Zergs today
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 16 2017 17:03 GMT
#345
I'm really curious to see if Dark's back is still intact after all of that carrying he has to do
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 17:03 GMT
#346
On April 17 2017 02:01 Fango wrote:
Who decision was it to send Inno. Maru beat all 3 Zergs today

Probably the team's decision. Dark would have probably won the rematch anyway.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 17:04 GMT
#347
Typical Team Terran. Bring the series back from down 1-4, then choke in the ace.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2017 17:04 GMT
#348
TY didn't do enough :/
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intotheheart
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April 16 2017 17:05 GMT
#349
On April 17 2017 02:04 Elentos wrote:
Typical Team Terran. Bring the series back from down 1-4, then choke in the ace.

Hey now, the rollercoaster of emotions definitely makes it more anime than the alternative where they have a giant comeback.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 17:06 GMT
#350
On April 17 2017 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TY didn't do enough :/

Maybe if he played an actual strat in the second game against Solar he could have won it for Team Terran.

Can't wait for next week where he'll get slaughtered 3 times by Team Protoss and then get in a win with battlecruisers somehow.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 16 2017 17:09 GMT
#351
I couldn't catch it, did he try the battlecruiser thing again?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 16 2017 17:11 GMT
#352
On April 17 2017 02:09 intotheheart wrote:
I couldn't catch it, did he try the battlecruiser thing again?

No. He ended the game on pure liberator.

So this was technically the one pro game ever where 40 corruptors would have killed everything.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 16 2017 17:13 GMT
#353
On April 17 2017 02:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 02:09 intotheheart wrote:
I couldn't catch it, did he try the battlecruiser thing again?

No. He ended the game on pure liberator.

So this was technically the one pro game ever where 40 corruptors would have killed everything.

DKim's foresight really shining through boys.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 16 2017 17:14 GMT
#354
TaeJa would have gone 12-0 today
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55510 Posts
April 16 2017 17:15 GMT
#355
On April 17 2017 02:14 Shellshock wrote:
TaeJa would have gone 12-0 today

He would have then played an ace match against himself to prove a point and ended up in an unsolvable stalemate.
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 16 2017 17:17 GMT
#356
These were the best games I have seen in a long time. I had like Jinro vs. MC GSL 2011 Round of 16 levels of excitement watching these.

My question is, why aren't we talking about putting these mineral changes on live? The games were 10x better and didn't just end to random worker harass or a single fight. Players were more willing to trade armies just because they didn't have to expand all game.
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Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 17:18:20
April 16 2017 17:18 GMT
#357
.
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Chile913 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 18:32:01
April 16 2017 18:31 GMT
#358
nvm.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 16 2017 18:51 GMT
#359
On April 17 2017 02:17 FarmI3oy wrote:
These were the best games I have seen in a long time. I had like Jinro vs. MC GSL 2011 Round of 16 levels of excitement watching these.

My question is, why aren't we talking about putting these mineral changes on live? The games were 10x better and didn't just end to random worker harass or a single fight. Players were more willing to trade armies just because they didn't have to expand all game.

Given the division in the Is lotv more fun to watch than hots thread, I wonder if more Korean's are starting to question the lotv economy changes as well. Really curious what they're thinking about it since their voice has a lot of weight with Blizzard.
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 16 2017 22:39 GMT
#360
On April 17 2017 03:51 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2017 02:17 FarmI3oy wrote:
These were the best games I have seen in a long time. I had like Jinro vs. MC GSL 2011 Round of 16 levels of excitement watching these.

My question is, why aren't we talking about putting these mineral changes on live? The games were 10x better and didn't just end to random worker harass or a single fight. Players were more willing to trade armies just because they didn't have to expand all game.

Given the division in the Is lotv more fun to watch than hots thread, I wonder if more Korean's are starting to question the lotv economy changes as well. Really curious what they're thinking about it since their voice has a lot of weight with Blizzard.


Sadly most balance discussion gets polluted with nothing but players that get owned by specific units on the ladder. They do not want to talk about deep design flaws of the game. Right now it's adepts and next week it will be thors. The game will still have the same damn problems no matter how much unit tweaking they do.
Saggymidgetbooty6969
Profile Joined September 2015
112 Posts
April 17 2017 14:42 GMT
#361
bring back the hots eco!
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Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
April 17 2017 14:52 GMT
#362
Are VODS available for this at all? Preferably on youtube since AfreecaTV vods are hit or miss on good ol' Rural NA Internet!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 17 2017 15:08 GMT
#363
I doubt it's on youtube.
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 17 2017 15:20 GMT
#364
On April 18 2017 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt it's on youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdbI2eIgcM4ESPCo0l2MVZg/videos
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 17 2017 15:35 GMT
#365
On April 18 2017 00:20 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2017 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt it's on youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdbI2eIgcM4ESPCo0l2MVZg/videos

Well i just baited a response
Thanks!
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 17 2017 16:32 GMT
#366
Did people like the economic changes?
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Saggymidgetbooty6969
Profile Joined September 2015
112 Posts
April 17 2017 17:22 GMT
#367
hots eco was better
FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#368
It is easy to spot whether posters here have watched the VODs or not.

I continue to laugh at people who think that they completely rolled back to the HOTS economy model in these games.

Watch the VODs before posting, otherwise you're presenting nothing but sophistry and illusion.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 10:42 GMT
#369
Under 2 hours and 30 minutes left until Team Terran vs Team Protoss.
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AlexGPunkt
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany258 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 11:42:38
April 23 2017 11:38 GMT
#370
Will it be streamed?
Edit: NVM, overlooked the info...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 13:18:35
April 23 2017 13:17 GMT
#371
It's about to start off with Stats vs Maru on Newkirk Precinct. GSLTV stream link is in the OP, TY is also streaming the Terran POV.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 13:30 GMT
#372
God Stats is good.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 13:47 GMT
#373
On April 23 2017 22:30 Elentos wrote:
God Stats is good.

And as I say that TY runs circles around him...
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StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 13:59:00
April 23 2017 13:56 GMT
#374
I don't like lotv's eco for the simple reason that my main is already down to 8 effective workers when i'm about to take my 3rd.

it's so hard to just play a normal macro game.

Back in hots you could saturate 3bases, get all your production and upgrades going, attack, remax and then there was still money left to take additional expansions.

If you got harassed, you were able to rebuild workers and to get back into the game, by simply having a good defense.

In lotv macro games are extremely fragile, it's just not fun to play for me. I wish Macro games would be more stable again.
Increased ressources per base would be a big improvement.

StraKo
Profile Joined February 2017
Germany96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 13:59:12
April 23 2017 13:56 GMT
#375
sry doublepost
Saggymidgetbooty6969
Profile Joined September 2015
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 14:04:55
April 23 2017 14:01 GMT
#376
where do i watch this?

found http://play.afreecatv.com/thefinal
but it is laggy as hell
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
April 23 2017 14:07 GMT
#377
Reducing the quality from Source to High reduced the lag. (I've no problem with having Source on twitch though)

Anyone knows what sort of company or channel GSLTV is? How does it relate to GSL and how old it is?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 14:10 GMT
#378
On April 23 2017 23:07 seopthi wrote:
Reducing the quality from Source to High reduced the lag. (I've no problem with having Source on twitch though)

Anyone knows what sort of company or channel GSLTV is? How does it relate to GSL and how old it is?

It's a channel run by the 3 Korean GSL casters (Caster Park, Gisado and JYP). They've been doing online tournaments with both amateurs and pros I believe ever since Afreeca took over GSL.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 14:14 GMT
#379
CC on the high ground, maybe TY learnt a lesson at the Super Tournament.
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 23 2017 14:15 GMT
#380
TY is looking dangerous.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 14:28 GMT
#381
Hot damn TY showed up today.
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
April 23 2017 14:45 GMT
#382
I always thought that TY is a complete beast, with his A game being possibly #1, but often playing poorly due to tilt/nervousness etc.; and perhaps since this is played online he may be more comfortable
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 14:58 GMT
#383
Nexus first vs CC first
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 23 2017 15:00 GMT
#384
TY's early defense is what is winning these games. Protoss needs to just macro to beat him I think.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 15:04:16
April 23 2017 15:03 GMT
#385
On April 24 2017 00:00 FarmI3oy wrote:
TY's early defense is what is winning these games. Protoss needs to just macro to beat him I think.

TY is one of the only players who can take this caliber of Protoss on in the late game (I think the game against Classic showed that pretty well), so that's not a surefire way to victory by any means.

Also you really can't expect herO to play normal macro games. He just doesn't.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 15:08 GMT
#386
This game was looking quite good for Classic and then he hits the perfect anti-timing and trades his entire army before his upgrades finish...
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 23 2017 15:09 GMT
#387
TY :O
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 15:13 GMT
#388
Time for Team Protoss to start the epic comeback.
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 23 2017 15:35 GMT
#389
It seems like Protoss just refuses to tech up. Even on 3 bases they are staying on gateway tech. I just don't understand this line of reasoning.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 15:48 GMT
#390
On April 24 2017 00:35 FarmI3oy wrote:
It seems like Protoss just refuses to tech up. Even on 3 bases they are staying on gateway tech. I just don't understand this line of reasoning.

In LotV that can be a legitimate playstyle. For the first few months of 2016, TvP/PvT was dominated by a style popularized by Zest. Extremely fast 3 (and even 4) bases and an almost pure gateway tech army. It's really not that popular anymore, but I guess Team Protoss thinks it works pretty well.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 23 2017 16:12 GMT
#391
Huge mistake by Stats. The game was going quite well for him. To get his army cornered like that for no reason...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 16:42:00
April 23 2017 16:27 GMT
#392
I would have wished for this series to be a bit less one-sided.

TvZ revenge match next week, exciting.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 23 2017 16:42 GMT
#393
TvZ finals, excellent
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 23 2017 18:20 GMT
#394
Missed the games. Any recomended ones?

(as if I wouldn't watch all of maru/TY/innos games anyway :D)
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2017 19:11 GMT
#395
maru btfo
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 13:05 GMT
#396
Going live now with the final match
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 13:27 GMT
#397
Great 1st game between soO and Maru
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 13:41 GMT
#398
Once again, TY being too greedy to scout properly catches up to him.
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jackacea
Profile Joined April 2014
66 Posts
April 30 2017 13:44 GMT
#399
is this Ty vs soO?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 13:45 GMT
#400
On April 30 2017 22:44 jackacea wrote:
is this Ty vs soO?

Right now it's Inno vs soO, TY lost pretty fast to a proxy hatch roach rush.
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jackacea
Profile Joined April 2014
66 Posts
April 30 2017 13:45 GMT
#401
ah I see thanks
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 13:58:01
April 30 2017 13:56 GMT
#402
Seems like every time I see Inno vs soO, Inno just punches soO in the face once or twice and soO falls over dead. Doesn't look like he's ever playing his best.

Not like its hard to guess Inno's TvZ builds either, the guy does Reactor Hellions like 9/10 times.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 14:14:56
April 30 2017 13:59 GMT
#403
Ah, Inno vs Dark on Newkirk, a classic that almost never fails to deliver.

EDIT: Almost.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 30 2017 14:04 GMT
#404
On April 30 2017 22:56 pvsnp wrote:
Seems like every time I see Inno vs soO, Inno just punches soO in the face once or twice and soO falls over dead. Doesn't look like he's ever playing his best.

Not like its hard to guess Inno's TvZ builds either, the guy does Reactor Hellions like 9/10 times.


Yeah kinda.


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NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 14:12:33
April 30 2017 14:11 GMT
#405
Well, I guess that's why Dark goes Roach-Ravager-Infestor against Inno.

Yeah kinda.


Dat record

Oh wow, I didn't know it was that bad.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 14:49 GMT
#406
Dark does not appear to be at his best today.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
April 30 2017 15:05 GMT
#407
Maru is sick, destroyed soO
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 15:20 GMT
#408
Whoa a seeker missile. Haven't seen that in awhile. And it worked!
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
April 30 2017 15:32 GMT
#409
That game was also so sick, this series are so refreshing after WCS austin
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 15:35 GMT
#410
I missed out just seen the last game.

That was so sick from TY I really thought he had that. I guess not enough ghosts or vikings
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 15:49 GMT
#411
Now its all up to TY, see if he can close it out. Maru and Inno be like "dude we carried you this far, you just have to win one game"
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 30 2017 15:59 GMT
#412
gogo Dark! Give us ace match!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2017 16:08 GMT
#413
TY is scrubbing it up smh
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Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 30 2017 16:10 GMT
#414
That move command...
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 16:15:37
April 30 2017 16:14 GMT
#415
TY redeeming himself, closes it out. Gratz to Team Terran.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 16:14 GMT
#416
TY so good
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 16:16 GMT
#417
On May 01 2017 01:14 Fango wrote:
TY so good

So good with his sick 1-3 performance today
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 30 2017 16:16 GMT
#418
So good with his sick 1-3 performance today

Well, Inno and Maru carried him to the last match, and he delivered when it counted.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 16:19:09
April 30 2017 16:18 GMT
#419
On May 01 2017 01:16 pvsnp wrote:
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So good with his sick 1-3 performance today

Well, Inno and Maru carried him to the last match, and he delivered when it counted.

Eh, I'm just kidding. He got caught off guard by 2 all-ins but he looked really good in the macro games. The 1-3 makes it look worse than it really was.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2017 16:19 GMT
#420
On May 01 2017 01:18 Elentos wrote:
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On May 01 2017 01:16 pvsnp wrote:
So good with his sick 1-3 performance today

Well, Inno and Maru carried him to the last match, and he delivered when it counted.

Eh, I'm just kidding. He got caught off guard by 2 all-ins but he looked really good in the macro games.

nah he's a noob
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
April 30 2017 16:19 GMT
#421
On May 01 2017 01:19 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 01:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2017 01:16 pvsnp wrote:
So good with his sick 1-3 performance today

Well, Inno and Maru carried him to the last match, and he delivered when it counted.

Eh, I'm just kidding. He got caught off guard by 2 all-ins but he looked really good in the macro games.

nah he's a noob

Everyone's a noob compared to you anyway so why bother calling them out
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
April 30 2017 16:23 GMT
#422
TY vs Solar was a nice macro match TY lost tho
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United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 30 2017 16:26 GMT
#423
On May 01 2017 01:23 Argonauta wrote:
TY vs Solar was a nice macro match TY lost tho


TY vs Solar have so many good late game matches against eachother
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