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pvsnp
7676 Posts
A widow mine kills an oracle. A group of marines just keep it away from your mineral line for a bit. Exactly. It's laughably easy to fly away from 5 marines before they kill you. Nerfing WM splash is acceptable. Nerfing impact is completely uncalled for. | ||
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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
Widow mine change is a move in the right direction, I'm not sure about values yet. | ||
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
Bad, just bad. | ||
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partypoker
United States16 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
A popular suggestion is to leave the single target of Widowmines damage at 160, so an Oracle as well as Zealots, Adepts and Stalkers would still die in one shot. Only decrease the splash shield damage instead (exact value would have to be tested), which can be compensated by the new tanks defensively. See aLive vs MyungSiK  . | ||
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xTJx
Brazil419 Posts
Idk about the widowmine change tho, i play zerg. | ||
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He11ra1s3r
3 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
when they will release patch ingame ? Liberator nerf will be released early next week. Other changes will be put into the test map, not in-game. | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:32 Boggyb wrote: Someone on the design and balance team really, really loves hydralisks. I mean, ling/bling/ravager running into archons is honestly getting boring after over a year. I don't think their change is good, but something should be done. They said they wanted to redesign the Hydra and that just has not happened yet. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:35 Musicus wrote: I mean, ling/bling/ravager running into archons is honestly getting boring after over a year. It's not been nearly a year yet  | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
Feels like 3 years though. | ||
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LHK
204 Posts
What I do care about is 4 widow mines completely preventing my gateway units from doing anything, and I think the splash is the big problem there. Be it reducing the splash radius or removing the shield damage, something needs to be tweaked. | ||
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insitelol
845 Posts
Its unfair that protoss PvZ winrate is slightly higher than PvTs. To the ground, baby!!! On January 28 2017 05:37 LHK wrote: Echoing everyone else here, reducing the +shields on the splash is the way to go. The impact should be able to one shot things, that's its job. I'm a protoss player and I don't mind being punished if i fuck up my oracle micro. What I do care about is 4 widow mines completely preventing my gateway units from doing anything, and I think the splash is the big problem there. Be it reducing the splash radius or removing the shield damage, something needs to be tweaked. Do you honestly think the proposed nerf would change that? They are not talking about removing splash, just toning it down by 15. 15, Carl! + Shield damage should go as the ugliest mechanic in the game with pulsar beam dmg reduced by lets say 35%. Im sick of these pathetic terran whiners crying about 0ne baEs al1iNs. I got some advise for you guys. Build some libs and tanks and shift que them somewhere on the map then talk about 1 baes alins. User was warned for this post | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:40 insitelol wrote: Right, nerf carrier and buff hydra (i guess banelings need another HP buff too). Its unfair that protoss PvZ winrate is slightly higher than PvTs. To the ground, baby!!! Hydra buff is more for dealing with sky Terran/mass raven than Carriers, and PvZ is basically 50/50, maybe 1% in favor of Z. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:45 Solar424 wrote: Hydra buff is more for dealing with sky Terran/mass raven than Carriers, and PvZ is basically 50/50, maybe 1% in favor of Z. Uhm... nobody plays "skyterran/mass raven" | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:50 Charoisaur wrote: Uhm... nobody plays "skyterran/mass raven" but does solar424 play this game? :> | ||
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raff100
498 Posts
Libs nerf and wm splash nerf seem fine to me | ||
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LHK
204 Posts
On January 28 2017 05:40 insitelol wrote: Right, nerf carrier and buff hydra (i guess banelings need another HP buff too). Its unfair that protoss PvZ winrate is slightly higher than PvTs. To the ground, baby!!! Do you honestly think the proposed nerf would change that? They are not talking about removing splash, just toning it down by 15. 15, Carl! + Shield damage should go as the ugliest mechanic in the game with pulsar beam dmg reduced by lets say 35%. Im sick of these pathetic terran whiners crying about 0ne baEs al1iNs. I got some advise for you guys. Build some libs and tanks and shift que them somewhere on the map then talk about 1 baes alins. Well, in the latter part of my post I said i'd prefer it to be removed, at least from the splash. I think +shield damage is the worst thing in the game, it's stupid and unnecessary. Really, dropping it by 15 probably won't change much. I just want something done because I'm absolutely sick of playing against mines lol. It's not fun at all. I'm not claiming to know what the solution is but tweaking/removing the shield damage is a good place to look. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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