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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:17:33
December 09 2016 18:15 GMT
#61
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.

Fuuuuuuuuuck why change it T_T
It's bad for Koreans too...
EDIT : ah nevermind, it's on saturday, not friday
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 09 2016 18:15 GMT
#62
On December 10 2016 03:14 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.


Good luck getting a KR studio audience at 1pm on a Friday then


No1 was coming, that's probably the main reason they're changing the time. Just some fancy PR to hide the fact.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 09 2016 18:16 GMT
#63
On December 10 2016 03:14 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.


Good luck getting a KR studio audience at 1pm on a Friday then

It's only friday night for NA, but it will be 1pm Saturday in Korea.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 09 2016 18:17 GMT
#64
Okay whatever I just realized that this means that SC2 is not gonna be dead in Korea when I finally visit this glorious country next July. Fingers crossed for live GSL around the days I will be available ...

Hell yeah!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18452 Posts
December 09 2016 18:17 GMT
#65
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:18:56
December 09 2016 18:17 GMT
#66
On December 10 2016 03:15 ZiggyPG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:14 munch wrote:
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.


Good luck getting a KR studio audience at 1pm on a Friday then


No1 was coming, that's probably the main reason they're changing the time. Just some fancy PR to hide the fact.


I went this year, they were getting 30-40 people for GSL Ro.32 / SSL, and more for Proleague
I wonder how your broadcast's gonna look when there's literally no audience

edit: Ohh right, missed that GSL moves to Saturday. Fixes that problem then
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16787 Posts
December 09 2016 18:17 GMT
#67
nice to see Montreal get some love. montreal deserves it. best big event city in Canada.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 09 2016 18:18 GMT
#68
My bad, i meant to say they admitted TRUE's win isn't any more legit than another DH/IEM.

Which I agree with, but thought they'd never admit.
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
December 09 2016 18:18 GMT
#69
Thanks Blizzard - looking forward to all the tournaments in 2017 (and 2018!)
~~(,,ºº>
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 09 2016 18:18 GMT
#70
On December 10 2016 03:17 sharkie wrote:
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.

I think so, this coming IEM and Katowice are still part of this IEM season. Next season sc2 will most likely be replaced by Overwatch.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:20:51
December 09 2016 18:19 GMT
#71
On December 10 2016 03:17 sharkie wrote:
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.

There really aren't that many events in the IEM circuit. For example this year there is Shanghai SC2, Oakland LoL/CSGO, Gyeonggi LoL/SC2/OW and Katowice CSGO/LoL/SC2.

SC2 will have a global event at Katowice, I wouldn't label it as giving up.

We don't know about the next IEM season, but that will fold into WCS 2018 more likely since it's centred around Katowice.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 09 2016 18:20 GMT
#72
On December 10 2016 03:16 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:14 munch wrote:
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.


Good luck getting a KR studio audience at 1pm on a Friday then

It's only friday night for NA, but it will be 1pm Saturday in Korea.


Oh fuck that's Saturday 5 am morning in Europe then? That is completely screwed! The great thing about GSL was always that it was on on weekdays, not hogging the weekends!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:22:20
December 09 2016 18:21 GMT
#73
On December 10 2016 03:17 sharkie wrote:
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.


It's possible they're still hosting non-WCS events.

The WCS events are pretty much Circuit Championships only and IEMs production doesnt really match up to that.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 09 2016 18:21 GMT
#74
On December 10 2016 03:19 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:17 sharkie wrote:
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.

There really aren't that many events in the IEM circuit. For example this year there is Shanghai SC2, Oakland LoL/CSGO, Gyeonggi LoL/SC2/OW and Katowice CSGO/LoL/SC2.

SC2 will have a global event at Katowice, I wouldn't label it as giving up.

We don't know about the next IEM season, but that will fold into WCS 2018 more likely since it's centred around Katowice.



No, I think this is all tournaments announced for this year. That's what the wording suggests. IEM is out of here after Katowice?
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:27:15
December 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#75
On December 10 2016 03:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:19 Ansibled wrote:
On December 10 2016 03:17 sharkie wrote:
What I read in that huge wall of text is that IEM practically has given up on SC2, right?
We get the IEM in Korea, the global IEM and that's it.

I guess they gave us global for the last SC2 IEM ever.

There really aren't that many events in the IEM circuit. For example this year there is Shanghai SC2, Oakland LoL/CSGO, Gyeonggi LoL/SC2/OW and Katowice CSGO/LoL/SC2.

SC2 will have a global event at Katowice, I wouldn't label it as giving up.

We don't know about the next IEM season, but that will fold into WCS 2018 more likely since it's centred around Katowice.



No, I think this is all tournaments announced for this year. That's what the wording suggests. IEM is out of here after Katowice?

Katowice is the end of the IEM season, nothing is announced after that. I don't think we'll see news about that until next year. There may be another WCS2017 event when IEM announces their plans for example.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:29:09
December 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#76
I'm very happy to see WCS alive and kicking. I know that SC2 is not in a best spot, but it sure ain't dead yet
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#77
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
December 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#78
Ugh, hate the changed time for GSL broadcasts. As a EU person I have to be egoistic in this regard.

Now we have a Wednesday broadcast early in the day when everyone's at school/university/work (which can be... worked around, as it happened in all the past years. :D) and a Saturday broadcast when everyone's sleeping. Not optimal. T_T
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
December 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#79
I'm regretting for the time that I'd been waiting for this.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
December 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#80
On December 10 2016 03:11 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
Maybe I was a bit harsh with my initial criticism, I apologize.
I just don't really understand why it's still needed to separate koreans and foreigners but looking at this it doesn't look that bad for koreans. But at least they should make the region-lock go both ways so that foreigners can't play in korean tournaments, doesn't sound really fair like it is.

I agree that WCS Korea events shoudl have the same region lock, this has always been a weird quirk.


Besides from neeb, how many foreigners have gone to korea and won a tournament?


And to all the people who do not understand why they want koreans to have a proper visa instead of allowing koreans to go to all the tournaments and winning every single one of them.

I remember seeing a photo of ALL the olympics representatives for table tennis. Guess what, they were all chinese.

I am sure the respective countries like my country had the same excuse of, having chinese players will improve our own player's skills. They have had that excuse for years and years and years. And the number of chinese players representing different countries for table tennis have just keep increasing. You know what, table tennis just isn't that popular. Not that many people are interested in watching table tennis fought between chinese. Sure it might be highest skill level available, but most people just don't give a damn when it's some random chinese mercenary playing for their country.

Blizzard is likely following the same train of thought. Having koreans just come in and win tournaments left and right and then just go home, does nothing for the foreigner scene. It doesn't improve the foreigner's skills neither does it attract more people to watch SC2.

I have had people say they should appeal more to the core base of fans who are still around, who just wanna watch the highest level of play instead of trying to appeal to a crowd that probably doesn't exist.

Guess what, i am part of the group of people who is sticking around for SC2, but i have absolutely zero interest in watching Koreans win everything and destroy the foreigner scene.

Visa requirement is a good compromise. If the said korean is really intent on winning the foreigner money, stay there as well, play in the NA/EU ladder and help push the foreigner skill level up.

We have had many pros state that they felt their training on ladder were much better when there were koreans staying around playing on the same ladder.

You cannot just go for the highest skill level and ignore the foreigner scene.
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