EPTWCS 2017 Announced - Page 2
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:32 Charoisaur wrote: Yes but why are only koreans not allowed. Why not germans or french or whatever? The argument always was that it's because koreans have the advantage of their infrastruscture but with that advantage gone I don't see what separates them from other countries so much that they can't compete together? When WCS France has its own circuit and WCS Germany has its own circuit maybe we can region lock them out? We have a pretty good amount of Korean tournaments with 3 GSLs, IEM, and whatever the other thing is. We have IEM Katowice being a global event, and whatever GSL vs the World is. Having a region locked foreigner circuit isn't denying Koreans the money to have a stable scene, if it wasn't region locked do you think all these teamless Koreans are going to fly out all over the world to have a chance to earn the money back? This doesn't help the lower tier of Koreans players at all, and they're the ones who will struggle. There's also nonWCS events like SHOUTcraft and Olimoleague. I still can't see a more detailed announcement, but I don't think it's reasonable to be upset by what we know so far. | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:28 Charoisaur wrote: Expect a lot of retirements now. I hoped blizzard cared for their careers but apparently not. Honestly, though, it's not Blizzard's responsibility to keep esports careers alive. That's up to the esports community that's been built around Starcraft. The only thing Blizzard is actually responsible for is making the game, any support they give to the esports scene is a bonus. | ||
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Topin
Peru10128 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:35 Ansibled wrote: When WCS France has its own circuit and WCS Germany has its own circuit maybe we can region lock them out? We have a pretty good amount of Korean tournaments with 3 GSLs, IEM, and whatever the other thing is. We have IEM Katowice being a global event, and whatever GSL vs the World is. Having a region locked foreigner circuit isn't denying Koreans the money to have a stable scene, if it wasn't region locked do you think all these teamless Koreans are going to fly out all over the world to have a chance to earn the money back? This doesn't help the lower tier of Koreans players at all, and they're the ones who will struggle. There's also nonWCS events like SHOUTcraft and Olimoleague. I still can't see a more detailed announcement, but I don't think it's reasonable to be upset by what we know so far. would be great of olimoleague could give some wcs points | ||
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Couguar
Russian Federation54 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:27 stuchiu wrote: How dare you, Korean SC2 is healthy as fuck. With Proleague, hot6ix Cups, SSLs, Kespa Cups and Globals it'll almost be too much. stuchiu is Apollo | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
For all the stupid conspiracy blizzard haters: | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:34 Topin wrote: werent IEM and DH heads the guys that didnt want to have koreans and prefered AM/EU players? if thats the case sc2 status in Korea means nothing to them so why change it  Well, not exactly. Blizzard paid money for DreamHack and IEM to exclude Koreans. We can assume that IEM and DH wanted a Korean-Ban, not gonna argue about that. But Blizzard supporting only the WCS Circuit Events and not the WCS Globel Events definitely didn't help neither. | ||
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Drigger
254 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
Really hyped about GSL vs The World! Only 1 global event makes me said, but I think there will be a lot of online competition in 2017. Shoutcraft is already confirmed and TB has even more planned. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
The system is alright. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:47 Charoisaur wrote: I'm not sure this is better for me. Of course it's good that WCS is still there but with continuing the region-lock for no reason I feel like it's very discriminating. Before the disbandment of the teams the region-lock supporters could argue that it's not fair to compete with people that have such superior infrustructure but now is there any other reason to ban koreans other than "I don't want to see asians win"? I mean we can see now more sc2 but watching such a system kinda feels like supporting racism. I mean obviously nothing will drive me away from sc2 but this is disgusting to say the least and if I wouldn't love sc2 so much I'd boycott this system. I'd honestly prefer no WCS over racist WCS. It's not racist. Don't be stupid. You'd prefer no WCS and no tournaments over having regional tournaments? Talk about spite... | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
I know the global event is an IEM but that's the end of this seasons not next seasons | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
Then tell me what the reason is for only excluding koreans from tournaments other than "I don't want to see asians win" | ||
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
keep in mind that this is the WCS circuit (supporter by BlizzMoney and they don't have to) nothing is stopping tournament organizers to make events, that give extra competition and cash prizes to the players (Shoutcraft is an exemple, it could also be any kind of online or LAN tournaments) and ofc they would be mostly open to anyone aka koreans too. edit: if we don't see that much extra tournaments it's because sc2 is not bankable anymore, you guys should be grateful and show a little bit more optimism towards the support Blizzard shows to the game | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
This is why I love Blizzard. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:51 Charoisaur wrote: Then tell me what the reason is for only excluding koreans from tournaments other than "I don't want to see asians win" They are not excluded, they can play if they have a visa. The winner of the main WCS circuit events last year were Polt, Showtime, and TRUE. The existence of WCS Korea also gives Koreans who don't want to do this tournaments to play in and a way to qualfiy for global competitions. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:50 chipmonklord17 wrote: All of the circuit events look like they're DHs, I hope that's because IEM hasn't announced next seasons schedule and not that they've pulled out of SC2. I know the global event is an IEM but that's the end of this seasons not next seasons I think those circuit events are all the seasonal championships (aka our modern day equivalent of WCS Premier) and not all WCS tournaments that happen next year. At least I hope so. | ||
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