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WCS 2017 Announced - Page 3

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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 09 2016 17:53 GMT
#41
On December 10 2016 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 02:35 opisska wrote:
I get that many people will not like the specifics, but can someone be really disappointed by this? I mean, I was honestly expecting the "no WCS in 2017" news to pop up any time soon, so the very existence of WCS 2017 with actual global finals and a dozen tournaments through they year, is strictly positive news to me and a cause for celebration.

I'm not sure this is better for me.
Of course it's good that WCS is still there but with continuing the region-lock for no reason I feel like it's very discriminating.
Before the disbandment of the teams the region-lock supporters could argue that it's not fair to compete with people that have such superior infrustructure but now is there any other reason to ban koreans other than "I don't want to see asians win"?
I mean we can see now more sc2 but watching such a system kinda feels like supporting racism.
I mean obviously nothing will drive me away from sc2 but this is disgusting to say the least and if I wouldn't love sc2 so much I'd boycott this system.

I'd honestly prefer no WCS over racist WCS.


Are you sure there would be GSL without the whole WCS system in place? I do not know much about it, but can we really assume that? And I am pretty sure you'd be upset without any big Korean tournaments. I mean MKGA, Olimoleague and stuff are insanely cool nowadays when everyone plays in them, but it still does not beat having and actual big GSL. Then, in general, we want to watch SC2, right? What else is there left outside Korea, besides WCS, really? Even fucking Take, the messiah of SC2, has financial problems running SC2 events.

I am not thrilled with the region lock either, you know I am not, but still, is there more we could realistically wish for?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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HardRevenge
Profile Joined February 2016
United States17 Posts
December 09 2016 17:53 GMT
#42
IEM and DH probably don't want the region lock gone. Which I'm ok with; however I will hold my opinion until we get more information and not a picture. Austin Hype~
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
December 09 2016 17:58 GMT
#43
here it is http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/2017-starcraft-ii-world-championship-series
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
December 09 2016 17:58 GMT
#44
Keep in mind that GSL is not region locked (tho it is kinda residency locked since you have to be there to play it)
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
December 09 2016 17:58 GMT
#45
Maybe I was a bit harsh with my initial criticism, I apologize.
I just don't really understand why it's still needed to separate koreans and foreigners but looking at this it doesn't look that bad for koreans. But at least they should make the region-lock go both ways so that foreigners can't play in korean tournaments, doesn't sound really fair like it is.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
December 09 2016 18:00 GMT
#46
WCS 2018 confirmed

"Overall, the structure we put in place for 2017 will largely remain unchanged in 2018"
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:05:06
December 09 2016 18:01 GMT
#47
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:05:29
December 09 2016 18:04 GMT
#48
On December 10 2016 03:00 Musicus wrote:
WCS 2018 confirmed

"Overall, the structure we put in place for 2017 will largely remain unchanged in 2018"

That's really amazing news actually. At least two more years!
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 09 2016 18:05 GMT
#49
Excited
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
December 09 2016 18:05 GMT
#50
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU


I've woken up at 2 a.m. for like five years now in order to watch GSL.

It's become my norm. I was fine with it. Now I can't watch on Fridays, lol.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 09 2016 18:08 GMT
#51
Filthy NA scum taking away mah GSL.

5 in the morning that's gonna seriously do some passion-testing
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:17:05
December 09 2016 18:11 GMT
#52
On December 10 2016 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
Maybe I was a bit harsh with my initial criticism, I apologize.
I just don't really understand why it's still needed to separate koreans and foreigners but looking at this it doesn't look that bad for koreans. But at least they should make the region-lock go both ways so that foreigners can't play in korean tournaments, doesn't sound really fair like it is.

I agree that WCS Korea events should have the same region lock, this has always been a weird quirk.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 09 2016 18:11 GMT
#53
WCS Circuit is nice.

I think it's inevitable we'll see mass retirement from mid-tier Koreans though
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
December 09 2016 18:12 GMT
#54
Wow, GSL is so early on the weekends now .

Also only 4 WCS Circuit events is really not that much, but I hope there will be more smaller events announced. It's like WCS Korea in 2016 lol. 4 Championships is good, but I hope there will at least 1 HSC and maybe 2 or 3 more events. Katowice will also be awesome of course.

I guess online events will become very important.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 09 2016 18:12 GMT
#55
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.

haha yea worst news for me

given the current state of sc2, these WCS2017 are better than nothing
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
December 09 2016 18:13 GMT
#56
I wonder if we're going to get an official statement regarding SSL soon.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 09 2016 18:13 GMT
#57
"support more globals"
Only have 1 additional event that's an all-star event.

And did they just say TRUE's WCS win wasn't legit?
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:15:01
December 09 2016 18:14 GMT
#58
On December 10 2016 03:01 Elentos wrote:
They're changing the broadcast times for GSL on Fridays to be more NA friendly, RIP EU

GSL qualifiers should happen pretty soon then.


Good luck getting a KR studio audience at 1pm on a Friday then
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
December 09 2016 18:15 GMT
#59
On December 10 2016 03:13 stuchiu wrote:
"support more globals"
Only have 1 additional event that's an all-star event.

And did they just say TRUE's WCS win wasn't legit?

Well, they said it was not more legit than Nerchio's or Drogo's wins. And they are right.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 09 2016 18:15 GMT
#60
On December 10 2016 03:13 stuchiu wrote:
And did they just say TRUE's WCS win wasn't legit?

Where did they say anything close to that?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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