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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
December 11 2016 18:05 GMT
#301
On December 12 2016 02:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 02:26 Xamo wrote:
My thoughts finally sum up on this: Blizzard is going to support at least two years more of competitive Starcraft, both in Korea and internationally. Hurra!
Korea is clearly the winner here, and Europe probably the looser, compared to 2016. I'd like to hear more from international Pros, it seems that they get less tournaments and therefore less exposure.
To Blizzard: Please please make WCS format be double-elim.

The winner? I only see losers tbh

It's not worse for Koreans than 2016. For a guaranteed 2 years. Considering the overall state of the scene that's as close to winning as you can get.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 11 2016 18:16 GMT
#302
On December 12 2016 03:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 02:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 12 2016 02:26 Xamo wrote:
My thoughts finally sum up on this: Blizzard is going to support at least two years more of competitive Starcraft, both in Korea and internationally. Hurra!
Korea is clearly the winner here, and Europe probably the looser, compared to 2016. I'd like to hear more from international Pros, it seems that they get less tournaments and therefore less exposure.
To Blizzard: Please please make WCS format be double-elim.

The winner? I only see losers tbh

It's not worse for Koreans than 2016. For a guaranteed 2 years. Considering the overall state of the scene that's as close to winning as you can get.

Well we have three GSLs instead of 4 Starleagues. Maybe the super tournaments are decent, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
Then there is no Proleague ofc (which isn't about WCS, but still affects the korean scene quite dramatically)
Overall i only see losers
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 11 2016 18:21 GMT
#303
On December 12 2016 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 03:05 Elentos wrote:
On December 12 2016 02:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 12 2016 02:26 Xamo wrote:
My thoughts finally sum up on this: Blizzard is going to support at least two years more of competitive Starcraft, both in Korea and internationally. Hurra!
Korea is clearly the winner here, and Europe probably the looser, compared to 2016. I'd like to hear more from international Pros, it seems that they get less tournaments and therefore less exposure.
To Blizzard: Please please make WCS format be double-elim.

The winner? I only see losers tbh

It's not worse for Koreans than 2016. For a guaranteed 2 years. Considering the overall state of the scene that's as close to winning as you can get.

Well we have three GSLs instead of 4 Starleagues. Maybe the super tournaments are decent, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
Then there is no Proleague ofc (which isn't about WCS, but still affects the korean scene quite dramatically)
Overall i only see losers


You are on TL, how can you be surprised to see only losers?

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
December 11 2016 18:51 GMT
#304
On December 12 2016 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 03:05 Elentos wrote:
On December 12 2016 02:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 12 2016 02:26 Xamo wrote:
My thoughts finally sum up on this: Blizzard is going to support at least two years more of competitive Starcraft, both in Korea and internationally. Hurra!
Korea is clearly the winner here, and Europe probably the looser, compared to 2016. I'd like to hear more from international Pros, it seems that they get less tournaments and therefore less exposure.
To Blizzard: Please please make WCS format be double-elim.

The winner? I only see losers tbh

It's not worse for Koreans than 2016. For a guaranteed 2 years. Considering the overall state of the scene that's as close to winning as you can get.

Well we have three GSLs instead of 4 Starleagues. Maybe the super tournaments are decent, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
Then there is no Proleague ofc (which isn't about WCS, but still affects the korean scene quite dramatically)
Overall i only see losers

One Starleague goes missing, but overall there are more tournaments for Koreans to play in. More prize money to be earned. The 3 seasons of GSL are spread out so that losing in January doesn't mean you're done until June. And apparently all parties involved are already committed to keeping this in tact for 2018, which means a lot more security for team owners and players.

Let's face it, it was never going to be better than this for Korea. The fact that it's not worse for the next two years makes them winners. Meanwhile the WCS Circuit got kinda rekt.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 11 2016 19:01 GMT
#305
Yeah i honestly don't understand how people are complaining about Korea after this.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 19:15:37
December 11 2016 19:14 GMT
#306
On December 12 2016 04:01 Phredxor wrote:
Yeah i honestly don't understand how people are complaining about Korea after this.


Well, it's still weird that a non-Korean can compete in Korea, but at the same time, a Korean can't compete abroad. Either there should be no region lock at all, or the region lock has to be on both ends, imo. I'm totally against a region lock; but it just seems weird that even now, when the Korean scene is practically dead, Blizzard still tries to protect the foreigners.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 19:48:05
December 11 2016 19:47 GMT
#307
I dont understand why there are so many negative comments here. Blizz is basically caring sc2 so badly, we should just be grateful there is going to be another full year of sc2.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 11 2016 19:50 GMT
#308
On December 12 2016 04:47 lastride wrote:
I dont understand why there are so many negative comments here. Blizz is basically caring sc2 so badly, we should just be grateful there is going to be another full year of sc2.

2 years.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 11 2016 20:49 GMT
#309
I also want to point out that with kespa gone, Korean players will have more Chinese online and offline tournaments to look forward to.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
December 11 2016 21:25 GMT
#310
Im happy with it, looking forward supporting the scene watching everything and bumping some money into blizzard's pocket and some independent tourneys to keep it going.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 11 2016 23:36 GMT
#311
On December 12 2016 05:49 digmouse wrote:
I also want to point out that with kespa gone, Korean players will have more Chinese online and offline tournaments to look forward to.


Kung Fu cup gonna be stacked.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 11 2016 23:50 GMT
#312
On December 12 2016 04:14 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 04:01 Phredxor wrote:
Yeah i honestly don't understand how people are complaining about Korea after this.


Well, it's still weird that a non-Korean can compete in Korea, but at the same time, a Korean can't compete abroad. Either there should be no region lock at all, or the region lock has to be on both ends, imo. I'm totally against a region lock; but it just seems weird that even now, when the Korean scene is practically dead, Blizzard still tries to protect the foreigners.


Pretty much that.

Like I said earlier. Better than expected but still a fucking joke
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 11 2016 23:57 GMT
#313
I'm surprised there's still GSL honestly
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
December 12 2016 00:00 GMT
#314
GSL's requirement for in-person qualification always felt like a pretty blatant "soft region lock" to me.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 01:22:27
December 12 2016 01:21 GMT
#315
On December 10 2016 18:53 Penev wrote:
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On December 10 2016 08:02 NonY wrote:
i don't understand the angle the negative comments are taking. you want more from blizzard but how are you justifying it? such disappointment that there isnt more but why do you think there would be more? i think it's a lot as it is, given the size of sc2 esports community. like what exactly is your business/economic reasoning for there being more events? i just dont understand how it seems like such a given to so many people that there ought to be more tournaments, and more korean tournaments. im surprised by how many there actually are and other people are disgusted at how few there are. can you give the broad strokes of how you figure it would work out for blizzard and these tournament hosting companies etc to support more sc2 events?

People believe pizzagate, critical thinking went down the drain apparently


I believe critical thinking long before pizzagate... the anti-intellectual movement sweeping the world has made inroads everywhere.

Honestly, this seems like a lot of support for a game I thought Blizzard was basically going to pull the plug on after I read the comments about their commitment to Proleague.
Eighty7Gaming
Profile Joined November 2015
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 01:28:25
December 12 2016 01:27 GMT
#316
Is the region lock successful? Seems like it has failed. Koreans simply moved out of korea. Byun doninated, true vs polt final. A failed experiment? Viewership hasn't increased either.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
December 12 2016 01:51 GMT
#317
Glad to know I have at least two solid years of WCS. GG Blizz
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ownself
Profile Joined September 2015
4 Posts
December 12 2016 03:30 GMT
#318
GG sc2
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
December 12 2016 05:21 GMT
#319
On December 12 2016 04:14 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 04:01 Phredxor wrote:
Yeah i honestly don't understand how people are complaining about Korea after this.


Well, it's still weird that a non-Korean can compete in Korea, but at the same time, a Korean can't compete abroad. Either there should be no region lock at all, or the region lock has to be on both ends, imo. I'm totally against a region lock; but it just seems weird that even now, when the Korean scene is practically dead, Blizzard still tries to protect the foreigners.

Do you really think foreigners participating in Korean events have the same impact at all to Koreans participating in foreign events?

On December 12 2016 10:27 Eighty7Gaming wrote:
Is the region lock successful? Seems like it has failed. Koreans simply moved out of korea. Byun doninated, true vs polt final. A failed experiment? Viewership hasn't increased either.



The Koreans that moved out of Korea is in the single digits. It isnt like 2013 or 2014 where we had a bunch of Koreans in WCS America and Europe.

Also we have a lot more chance that pro foreigners can afford to go pro. Compare foreigner earnings 2014-2015 to 2016.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
December 12 2016 06:20 GMT
#320
On December 12 2016 10:27 Eighty7Gaming wrote:
Is the region lock successful? Seems like it has failed. Koreans simply moved out of korea. Byun doninated, true vs polt final. A failed experiment? Viewership hasn't increased either.


It was way too late.
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