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1 Post
December 12 2016 06:33 GMT
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XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
December 12 2016 07:44 GMT
#322
i like it, just a bit sad to see the SSL go but those weekend formats will be awesome.

i would love to see a long running tournament format like the GSL on the circuit side. I understand the logistics for this are almost impossible but its just a different style of tournament and the games are different to the weekend tournament system.
I watch more starcraft than i play it
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 12 2016 08:41 GMT
#323
I think it would be nice to have more English coverage of Chinese events.
maru lover forever
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 12 2016 09:09 GMT
#324
On December 10 2016 17:16 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 16:48 Charoisaur wrote:
I wonder what happens to Wolf and Valdes now with SSL and Proleague gone. I really love their casts, would be a shame if they had to leave the scene after all they've done for it.


Wolf does Heroes and World of Tanks anyway, he's fine

Valdes....not so much. I guess he could go back to LoL with RapiD

Or maybe they'll both end up casting the OW Proleague


Or they'll both just cast the Hearthstone Kespa Cup
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 12 2016 09:16 GMT
#325
On December 12 2016 17:41 Incognoto wrote:
I think it would be nice to have more English coverage of Chinese events.


What I understood from WCA, it would be an improvement to have even full Chinese coverage
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 12 2016 09:37 GMT
#326
On December 12 2016 17:41 Incognoto wrote:
I think it would be nice to have more English coverage of Chinese events.


From what I know and worth WESG will have high profile English coverage so that's that.
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 12 2016 09:40 GMT
#327
I'm just not interested anymore.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 12 2016 11:42 GMT
#328
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 12 2016 12:00 GMT
#329
What's up with that?

Does SPOTV want to host actual Starcraft events?
maru lover forever
todespolka
Profile Joined November 2012
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 12:18:41
December 12 2016 12:11 GMT
#330
On December 10 2016 02:29 CynicalDeath wrote:
...what's the point of keeping the "dividing line" between Korean WCS and Foreigner WCS if Korean Sc2 is basically no more? this is just stupid, it seems almost they did it without taking into count the last 2 months events...


Its pretty easy to understand. Foreigner scene is healthy, Korean scene isnt. No matter what you believe, foreigners are still shit. Koreans will fill the top ranks of each tournament, foreigners will earn not enough money and retire. The foreigner scene will die out and disappear.

Korean scene doesnt produce new blood. If foreigner scene dies, the sc2 disappears world wide.

Kespa doesnt matter. The best players practise on korean server, but foreigners have no access to that server. You cant get as good or better, if you cant practise with the best (especially after the recent patch changes).
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 12 2016 12:25 GMT
#331
On December 12 2016 21:00 Incognoto wrote:
What's up with that?

Does SPOTV want to host actual Starcraft events?

Sounds like they took a lot of pride in SSL and want to keep involved in the scene.

Which I find quite surprising considering SSL season 1 looked like they were more than willing to drop SC2 entirely.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 12:40:12
December 12 2016 12:40 GMT
#332
Maybe they're salty because Blizzard didn't consider them for WCS or something. It looks bad for their image or something? Maybe?
maru lover forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 12 2016 12:41 GMT
#333
Let's see if SPOTV will actually do some tournaments, right now this seems more like PR talk
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 12:42:40
December 12 2016 12:42 GMT
#334
On December 12 2016 21:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Let's see if SPOTV will actually do some tournaments, right now this seems more like PR talk

If they wanted to leave they just wouldn't say anything.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1215 Posts
December 12 2016 12:49 GMT
#335
It does sound pretty PR but still this is not quite the tone I expected. I guess we will see what they actually come up with.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 12 2016 12:52 GMT
#336
I mean without WCS points also basically means no money from blizzard. Seems hard to do tournaments that way.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 13:20:07
December 12 2016 13:09 GMT
#337
On December 12 2016 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I mean without WCS points also basically means no money from blizzard. Seems hard to do tournaments that way.

I can understand why Blizzard would rather fund more GSL tournaments than Starleague, they get a lot more attention even if Starleague is a great tournament.

I hope SPOTV will find a way to put on some tournaments though, if they still want to that is.

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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
December 12 2016 13:13 GMT
#338
A teamleague would be nice, maybe together with the ppl from VSL

Hard to get the money for it probably tho
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Eighty7Gaming
Profile Joined November 2015
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 16:14:41
December 12 2016 16:12 GMT
#339
On December 12 2016 10:27 Eighty7Gaming wrote:
Is the region lock successful? Seems like it has failed. Koreans simply moved out of korea. Byun doninated, true vs polt final. A failed experiment? Viewership hasn't increased either.



The Koreans that moved out of Korea is in the single digits. It isnt like 2013 or 2014 where we had a bunch of Koreans in WCS America and Europe.

Also we have a lot more chance that pro foreigners can afford to go pro. Compare foreigner earnings 2014-2015 to 2016. [/QUOTE]

True.. there is that.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
December 12 2016 18:57 GMT
#340
What does SPOTV do outside of Starcraft, anyway? They used to broadcast Dota but that died.

I hope they find sponsors to have their own events even if its outside Blizzard's WCS. That would be a delight.
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