• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:15
CEST 19:15
KST 02:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025)17[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Rejuvenation8
Community News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A Results (2025)4$1,250 WardiTV May [May 6th-May 18th]4Clem wins PiG Sty Festival #66Weekly Cups (April 28-May 4): ByuN & Astrea break through1Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game29
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A Results (2025) How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group A INu's Battles#12 < ByuN vs herO > [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B GSL 2025 details announced - 2 seasons pre-EWC 2025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)
Strategy
[G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise Mutation # 469 Frostbite
Brood War
General
OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 Battlenet Game Lobby Simulator [G] GenAI subtitles for Korean BW content BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[ASL19] Ro8 Day 4 [CSLPRO] $1000 Spring is Here! Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
What do you want from future RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Grand Theft Auto VI Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Elon Musk's lies, propaganda, etc. UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey Surprisingly good films/Hidden Gems
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
BLinD-RawR 50K Post Watch Party The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
What High-Performing Teams (…
TrAiDoS
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Test Entry for subject
xumakis
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12701 users

WCS 2017 Announced - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
347 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 09 2016 18:26 GMT
#81
it is nice they announced WCS for 2018 already, but it makes me worried that it ends there
The other race is OP
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 09 2016 18:27 GMT
#82
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:29:04
December 09 2016 18:27 GMT
#83
Last year in foreignerland there was 3 WCS championships and 6 WCS circuit events, now it's 4 chamionships annnnnnnnnd nothing?

Doesn't seem like the War Chest fundings are planned to be added to any of those tournaments, so where will they go?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Mugen93
Profile Joined May 2015
16 Posts
December 09 2016 18:28 GMT
#84
This is honestly a lot better for koreans in comparison to last year. Happy to see that blizzard still want to support the game in this way even if it basically has only an hardcore playbase/spectator-pool also for 2018. I think warchest and new contents will be a great way for fans to continue supporting the game.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 09 2016 18:28 GMT
#85
Why keep Koreans from competing in the west when they don't have team infrastructure anymore?

KT FlaSh FOREVER
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 09 2016 18:31 GMT
#86
On December 10 2016 03:27 munch wrote:
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either


Healthy as
Moderator
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8332 Posts
December 09 2016 18:31 GMT
#87
Does (basically) banning Korean from Circuit make the scene any better at this stage? Does Blizz ask themselves that question?
ilililililililiii
Profile Joined October 2013
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:34:44
December 09 2016 18:32 GMT
#88
why does korea have so many events while the rest of the world has more viewership and less events.

TBH it seems unfair that the koreans get so much.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
December 09 2016 18:34 GMT
#89
On December 10 2016 03:31 Arceus wrote:
Does (basically) banning Korean from Circuit make the scene any better at this stage? Does Blizz ask themselves that question?

Considering that the 4 tournaments they listed for the Circuit are apparently all there will be this year - yes, 4 WCS Circuit tournaments total - I'd say making sure the non-Korean players still have tournaments where they have the opportunity to earn a good amount of money doesn't make the scene worse.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
December 09 2016 18:34 GMT
#90
On December 10 2016 03:27 munch wrote:
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either

They sound like DH tournaments. We can hope there are more IEM tournaments besides the 2 announced.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
December 09 2016 18:36 GMT
#91
On December 10 2016 03:34 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:27 munch wrote:
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either

They sound like DH tournaments. We can hope there are more IEM tournaments besides the 2 announced.

They do say that the calendar is meant to be the full WCS schedule for 2017.
[image loading]
Is all we're getting for WCS relevant tournaments.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:40:40
December 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#92
On December 10 2016 03:31 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:27 munch wrote:
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either


Healthy as

The prize money is the same as last year, but it's balanced differently. Katowice is a $250,000 tournament. That's 5 DreamHacks.

The extent to which Blizzard pays production costs is another question though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:41:51
December 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#93
On December 10 2016 03:28 Lunareste wrote:
Why keep Koreans from competing in the west when they don't have team infrastructure anymore?


Well hopefully there will be some local Korean sponsors who will pick up GSL players. I'm happy to see that GSL continues instead of only weekend tournaments that are open for everybody. At least 1 ongoing league will be left this way and it is extremely needed to keep sc2 alive in Korea.

Sure Koreans can't compete in the 4 DHs (without visas and living outside of Korea), but they have 6 events themselves, so I think it's okay.

If there was an ongoing WCS Circuit studio league for foreigners, obviously Koreans should be allowed to compete in the DHs, but as the system is now, it seems fair.

In theory it is unfair that foreigners can compete in GSL without a Visa, but in practice we will see more Koreans with visas competing in the WCS Circuit than foreigners competing in WCS Korea.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
December 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#94
Wow what a bunch of garbage for Korean SC2. They really must think nobody outside of Korea wants to watch them. Such a tragedy.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15878 Posts
December 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#95
On December 10 2016 03:34 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:27 munch wrote:
Well, dropping from 9 WCS events to 4 Circuit events is hardly ideal either

They sound like DH tournaments. We can hope there are more IEM tournaments besides the 2 announced.

Considering they said it was "unfair" that not all circuit winners got a global finals seed despite all tournaments having the same difficulty I don't think there will be more.

Which is fine. 4 tournaments are enough for foreigner-only tournaments.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Espartaquen
Profile Joined September 2015
88 Posts
December 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#96
Is it a good time to start rioting or are we still gonna still lick blizzard´s ass? A lot of people have dedicated insane amounts of time for this game and in return they are getting nothing out of it. This really pisses me off.
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#97
RiP Team Salmon
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 18:46:19
December 09 2016 18:45 GMT
#98
IEM doesn't start their season till about July, and if past seasons are any indication the first stop will be in Asia, specifically China which SC2 do have a sizable audience.

But yeah, the amount of tournaments announced here, does not strike any confidence at all.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 09 2016 18:46 GMT
#99
On December 10 2016 03:42 Espartaquen wrote:
Is it a good time to start rioting or are we still gonna still lick blizzard´s ass? A lot of people have dedicated insane amounts of time for this game and in return they are getting nothing out of it. This really pisses me off.

You have a strange idea of nothing.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 09 2016 18:46 GMT
#100
On December 10 2016 03:42 Raskit wrote:
RiP Team Salmon

Good point, I sure hope they will joing the GSL casting team.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 582
mouzHeroMarine 337
Hui .279
MindelVK 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4522
Bisu 2076
Stork 672
BeSt 616
Flash 548
Shuttle 487
actioN 368
Nal_rA 360
Soulkey 349
Barracks 126
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 107
BRAT_OK 90
Mind 86
sSak 70
sorry 50
Backho 39
Shinee 35
Movie 33
Aegong 29
ToSsGirL 28
Terrorterran 28
yabsab 18
Yoon 16
soO 13
Sexy 9
Dota 2
Gorgc9251
qojqva2231
Counter-Strike
FunKaTv 88
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor268
Other Games
tarik_tv18935
singsing2798
Lowko1087
FrodaN690
Beastyqt490
crisheroes220
ArmadaUGS164
XcaliburYe148
KnowMe97
Trikslyr80
QueenE30
EmSc Tv 2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1531
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv127
Other Games
EmSc Tv 2
StarCraft 2
EmSc2Tv 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis7262
Other Games
• WagamamaTV178
• Shiphtur152
Upcoming Events
Online Event
10h 45m
ShoWTimE vs MaxPax
SHIN vs herO
Clem vs Cure
SHIN vs Clem
ShoWTimE vs SHIN
SOOP
15h 45m
DongRaeGu vs sOs
CranKy Ducklings
16h 45m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 45m
SC Evo League
18h 45m
WardiTV Invitational
20h 45m
Chat StarLeague
22h 45m
PassionCraft
23h 45m
Circuito Brasileiro de…
1d
Online Event
1d 10h
MaxPax vs herO
SHIN vs Cure
Clem vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs herO
ShoWTimE vs Clem
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 20h
Chat StarLeague
1d 22h
Circuito Brasileiro de…
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Light
Wardi Open
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Soulkey
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
ByuN vs Rogue
herO vs Cure
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
5 days
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

FGSL Season 1
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
StarCastTV Star League 4
JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

CSLPRO Spring 2025
NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.