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On November 08 2016 02:15 alexender paradise wrote: Didn't know this but Scarlett is in the Guinness book of Records for being the highest paid female in esports earned on oct. 5 2016 with a total 144,414. Congratulations! World Record Link | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
still some work to do to reach gender equality, got to win those GSLs next year | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
On November 14 2016 07:53 [PkF] Wire wrote: ha ha nice still some work to do to reach gender equality, got to win those GSLs next year Did I miss something where is the gender inequality here? | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On November 14 2016 10:19 nichan wrote: Did I miss something where is the gender inequality here? Female representation in esports | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
That has more to do with skill than gender | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5546 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
I think it's pretty cool she got such a prestigious title, but it sets a weird precedent. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On November 14 2016 11:01 Saechiis wrote: Are there precedents like this in the Guiness Book of World Records? Seems a little off to give her a gender specific award considering she was born with a male physique. I suppose when it comes to gaming there's no clear advantages to being male or female but when it comes to sports for instance there's a noted difference in phsyical ability. If a sportsman would to identify as female and compete with women, that wouldn't be fair competition in my eyes. I think it's pretty cool she got such a prestigious title, but it sets a weird precedent. it is documented that men have improved testosterone, reaction times, and spatial awareness compared to women and this is undoubtedly an advantage in gaming. whether or not this applies to Scarlett however is a different discussion. | ||
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mierin
United States4946 Posts
On November 14 2016 12:03 j4vz wrote: Congratulation to Scarlett, but is there any mention about her biological sex? I dont want to bring down her amazing achievement record, I know SC2 is not the olympics but to be fair to other female progamers. Yes, as great as Scarlett is at SC this seems like a weirdly overly-PC and controversial award to give...maybe "best non-male" would be more accurate but less sensationalist? | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
On November 14 2016 13:01 Circumstance wrote: Or maybe we should be spending more time making the esports community more receptive to women instead of discrediting the most successful one we have. or maybe we should realize that men and women are inherently different, both with gender specific advantages and disadvantages. i will never understand the reasoning behind having "women's chess" separated from "chess" | ||
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blinken
Canada368 Posts
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
On November 14 2016 13:30 blinken wrote: I love Scarlett, and totally support transgender rights, but I feel this does a disservice to biological females. If we don't set a precedent here, one day all the top earners in the female category will be mtf transgender. exactly...i could choose to identify as a woman and break the state benchpress record. where does the line get drawn? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 14 2016 13:30 blinken wrote: I love Scarlett, and totally support transgender rights, but I feel this does a disservice to biological females. If we don't set a precedent here, one day all the top earners in the female category will be mtf transgender. MtF transgenderism would have to be a lot more common than it is for that to ever be true, and that's assuming it gives you an advantage which we have no proof of and I don't really believe to be true. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On November 14 2016 13:38 LtCalley wrote: exactly...i could choose to identify as a woman and break the state benchpress record. where does the line get drawn? Then do it. But something tells me you'd rather identify as a man than break the state bench press record, so you won't. And we both know it. Gender identity isn't a game, and if you felt you were a woman inside and wanted to bench, then all the power to you. | ||
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blinken
Canada368 Posts
On November 14 2016 13:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: MtF transgenderism would have to be a lot more common than it is for that to ever be true, and that's assuming it gives you an advantage which we have no proof of and I don't really believe to be true. I really don't think it would have to be a lot more common. I just look at how many female Brood War players there were, and how hard they trained, and still were unable to compete with even third rate BW male pros. If they were equal in mental gaming hardware, there would be no way, just no way, this could happen. It's statistically impossible. I simply believe in evolution. Men have been strategising for survival from the dawn of our race. For me, questioning that they evolved specific advantages in this area is questioning basic scientific logic. | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada951 Posts
On November 14 2016 14:00 BronzeKnee wrote: Then do it. But something tells me you'd rather identify as a man than break the state bench press record, so you won't. And we both know it. Gender identity isn't a game, and if you felt you were a woman inside and wanted to bench, then all the power to you. I'm not commenting on whether this is fair for Starcraft (I have no idea), but you can't possibly advocate a MtF transgender person winning a state bench press competition for females. Like I agree with the general message of it's not a game, but let's not be stupid. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Jizz
Australia224 Posts
On November 14 2016 12:05 Terranist wrote: it is documented that men have improved testosterone, reaction times, and spatial awareness compared to women and this is undoubtedly an advantage in gaming. whether or not this applies to Scarlett however is a different discussion. On the other hand women are generally thought of as more inclined toward multitasking, organization and intuition, skills essential to starcraft. Someone should get some identical m/f twins and make them grind ladder in the name of science | ||
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