EPTByuN wins WCS Finals over Dark 4-2 - Page 7
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MilkiCow_SC2
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Tee1990
20 Posts
On November 06 2016 21:17 Kaizor wrote: The nerf reaper talk right now is really baffling and salty. Seriously guys, Byun is the only Terran to win anything significant this year and besides him and TY the terran representation in tournaments have been so low it wasn't even funny. So just because Byun uses Reaper aggression to their fullest capability, so now it is time to nerf them? So i guess we should just remove terran from the game then. Like some have already stated, if terran don't do any early damage, they are pretty much screwed once they go into late game. And most of the time they don't, because not all terrans can do as much early damage as Byun. Just because Byun is OP, doesn't mean Terran is op. Alrite reaper might be op in his hands but if no other alternatives are given and blizzard just nerf them because of 1 finals, we are NOT going to see any terran next year. Its not about terran OP or not, I main terran and think T is pretty shit at the moment. But the reaper grenade is just fustrating to play against when reapers are massed. Just look at tvt, its always reapers / reaper-hellion wars, or u just die to reapers | ||
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ETisME
12740 Posts
Hoping Byun can keep this top form for next year and onwards as well | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On November 06 2016 21:38 Tee1990 wrote: Its not about terran OP or not, I main terran and think T is pretty shit at the moment. But the reaper grenade is just fustrating to play against when reapers are massed. Just look at tvt, its always reapers / reaper-hellion wars, or u just die to reapers Yes i agree with the frustrating part but blizzard needs to give terran other options first. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1939 Posts
The Reaper is a unit that's gotten better with every expansion whereas units like the Infestor just get worse. It's easy to see Blizzard vision of how a game of Starcraft "should" be played is reflected in the way they've handled those two units in particular. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On November 06 2016 12:19 Liquid`Snute wrote: yeah ... reaper grenades rob players and viewers of games such as game 5 (sejong). in my opinion, early game reaper vs queen is boring as fuck to watch and i see no reason why one wouldn't allow further emphasis on the fantastic midgame ... same with HOTS ZvT, matches like INnoVation vs Life that just ended with hellbat timing shreking a 2base muta build after hellbats were brought in to 'spice things up'. i just don't understand why we're getting these early games when midgame is so great to play and watch. quick games can be 'fun' and 'belong in a series' but it could've been so much more. imo we're not in a hurry to finish up a series quickly, so i wish games like Frozen temple and Frost could've been replaced with more than what they are today. hoping someone understands what i mean because it's a bit tricky - reapers simply scale too well and don't become irrelevant quickly enough, or they're just flat out too slippery and strong, even dark setting up surrounds didn't do anything because reaper explosion just destroys lings ... i'm so happy about aegwynns comment here because i feel rather strongly about the same topic both as a viewer and player The core idea is that not a single unit ever becomes irrelevant. As a matter of fact there is not a single unit in Starcraft 2 that scales as well as the Zergling. If it weren't for the fact that Zerg gets completely out of hand if you leave them in peace for even 2 minutes games could be a lot longer. In the lategame Zerg is heavily favoured so it makes sense that Terran strategies will revolve around closing out games quickly. | ||
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Mizenhauer
United States1939 Posts
On November 06 2016 19:17 Phredxor wrote: What an odd thing to say. Mvp retired cause he's broken, Flash and JD had middling success at SC2 and went back to the game they are far better/more popular in. Zest made it further in Blizzcon than he ever has, Maru sucks nuts and sOs only wins every 2nd year. 22-4 in Proleague equals sucking nuts................. It was the perfect final on paper, but once the games started it proved to be far less than that. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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scoo2r
Canada91 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17646 Posts
 Congratz to Byun. | ||
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a4bisu
Australia86 Posts
The guy won this game did 99% of the aggression in the game. If it is a battle, it should be like both have the equivalent set of weapons and engage and defend comparably. Like one held a sword in his left hand and a shield in his right. In these games I saw terran always has the offensive upper hand, and zerg is always on the defense thought out the game. it is frustrating to watch, even in g5, the terren lost the game pretty much without any home ground defense. It like he swings his big sword till the sword is torn blunt after cutting too much bones. | ||
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wjat
385 Posts
1- A really bad scoot 2- He could have get all the reapers when he did the surround but he didn't leave any speedlings on top of the edge. I mean that was obvious reaper would jump here. 3- Dark missplay shouldn't be the reason Reapers should be nerfed. | ||
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payopayo
28 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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rednusa
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On November 06 2016 22:28 a4bisu wrote: Quality of of the games, though hyped as fk by tastosis, is so low. The guy won this game did 99% of the aggression in the game. If it is a battle, it should be like both have the equivalent set of weapons and engage and defend comparably. Like one held a sword in his left hand and a shield in his right. In these games I saw terran always has the offensive upper hand, and zerg is always on the defense thought out the game. it is frustrating to watch, even in g5, the terren lost the game pretty much without any home ground defense. It like he swings his big sword till the sword is torn blunt after cutting too much bones. I think we saw the same games, it is just boring to see the same every game, and it is that way because the design of the races, all the games that Byun won were over pretty fast, it doesnt matter if the casters believe that we are blind. | ||
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Aquila Magna
Germany38 Posts
What the fuck makes people use a news about a Player winning for other than gratz/maybe discussing details of how the games went? If you are really convinced something is wrong with balance there are many places to discuss that without spitting toxin on everybody else's experience after these finals here on TL. Frankly, you might even get heard if you express thought-out criticism in dedicated balance threads. All the best and much respect to Byun and Dark, the Gods of Starcraft Universe 2016! | ||
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kagamin
United States191 Posts
On November 06 2016 21:32 MilkiCow_SC2 wrote: Can we have a replay pack? This, please. | ||
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