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On December 12 2015 08:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
But eh, I don't think Blizzard will go on with it.
Like, no way you're doing it, tournament orgs will just drop WCS points and then Blizzcon will feature glorious showdown of Polt, Hydra + 6 against the best performers of Code S + SSL.
If the viewership count drops, tournament organizers will consider it as a realistic possibility.
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On December 12 2015 08:50 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
So, we should just transfer all blizzcon hype to GSL and SSL finals, and pretend Blizzcon doesn't exist right? Because seriously, I'm not seeing much reason to watch weekend tournaments without Koreans. Agreed. Blizzcon hype will be soooo dead if they go down this road.
well at the very least, we should skip blizzcon day 1, ro8 MIGHT be good (but it prob won't)
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Blizzard catering to people who like watching foreigners over watching good games.
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On December 12 2015 08:51 DonDomingo wrote:
Blizzard catering to people who like watching foreigners over watching good games.
dont get me wrong, nationwars is good, but its a fucking joke compared to GSL and Proleague, we need Koreans
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WCS yearly finals is gonna be a joke tournament to let a few more foreigners have some extra 5-7k $
They are turning tournaments into charity organizations for foreign players.
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I am surprised how many people actually think Blizzard is doing this because they think it will improve the esport-scene. I think it's much more likely that this comes as a result of pressure from organizers. Viewer numbers aren't good and I expect that ESL/Dreamhack all were considering to not have Starcraft at their events/not run WCS.
Hence Blizzard opted to cut down on the WCS spending and pay organizers to continue to run Starcraft tournaments. And obviously if Koreans could participate in those events, it would absolutely ruin any type of hope for foreigners, hence they made a strong region lock.
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Well hey, won't this be just like first 6 months of WoL that everyone loved so much?
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On December 12 2015 08:54 Hider wrote:
I am surprised how many people actually think Blizzard is doing this because they think it will improve the esport-scene. I think it's much more likely that this comes as a result of pressure from organizers. Viewer numbers aren't good and I expect that ESL/Dreamhack all were considering to not have Starcraft at their events/not run WCS.
Hence Blizzard opted to cut down on the WCS spending and pay organizers to continue to run Starcraft tournaments. And obviously if Koreans could participate in those events, it would absolutely ruin any type of hope for foreigners, hence they made a strong region lock.
Would this really improve viewership though?
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On December 12 2015 08:54 Hider wrote:
I am surprised how many people actually think Blizzard is doing this because they think it will improve the esport-scene. I think it's much more likely that this comes as a result of pressure from organizers. Viewer numbers aren't good and I expect that ESL/Dreamhack all were considering to not have Starcraft at their events/not run WCS.
Hence Blizzard opted to cut down on the WCS spending and pay organizers to continue to run Starcraft tournaments. And obviously if Koreans could participate in those events, it would absolutely ruin any type of hope for foreigners, hence they made a strong region lock.
That's incredibly fucking stupid though, because doing so is to claim that more people are in favor of foreigners winning Koreanless tournaments than people who want to watch the highest quality of play.
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this is the worst thing to happen to sc2. just terrible. can't believe it's true
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Canada16699 Posts
i don't get why people expect Blizzard to do a good job with eSports. they specialize in making really great games. they've never been good at running competitive leagues.
it'd be like expecting James Naismith would have the skills to run the NBA.
is James Naismith a pioneer and innovator of athletics and sport design? sure he is. that doesn't mean he can do what David Stern and Adam Silver do. James Naismith probably wouldn't even be able to figure out that Stern and Silver were good to hire to run a league.
is Blizzard fucking SC2 high level esports into the ground? probably. Blizzard's "A" team is working on WoW. Their "B" team is working on Hearthstone. The "C" team is working on Overwatch.
The "Z" team is working on WCS.
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On December 12 2015 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
this is the worst thing to happen to sc2. just terrible. can't believe it's true
I am in the same mindset, I truly cannot believe that Blizzard believes this is the best course of action. I really have no plans of viewing weekend tournaments anymore, there is no point.
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Seems like I will only watch gsl/ssl in the future. RIP foreign tournaments
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 12 2015 08:55 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 08:54 Hider wrote:
I am surprised how many people actually think Blizzard is doing this because they think it will improve the esport-scene. I think it's much more likely that this comes as a result of pressure from organizers. Viewer numbers aren't good and I expect that ESL/Dreamhack all were considering to not have Starcraft at their events/not run WCS.
Hence Blizzard opted to cut down on the WCS spending and pay organizers to continue to run Starcraft tournaments. And obviously if Koreans could participate in those events, it would absolutely ruin any type of hope for foreigners, hence they made a strong region lock.
That's incredibly fucking stupid though, because doing so is to claim that more people are in favor of foreigners winning Koreanless tournaments than people who want to watch the highest quality of play.
The claim has a lot of merit. See: every other esports in existence right now.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Tfw only Dream, Sorry and Dark signed from T1. ;/
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so if koreans with a visa (polt, hydra, jaedong) are still allowed at foreign tournaments I guess the winners of those tournaments will all look very similar 
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..I liked the system so much better, before WCS.
Sure maybe it was hard for outsiders looking in, to know who are the best players.
Though i feel like everyone who followed Starcraft would probably give a pretty consistent top 10 players. Just due to an intrinsic feel, for the value of placing in a tournament based on the competition present.
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???
If this were true... What the fuck are they thinking ?
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On December 12 2015 09:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Tfw only Dream, Sorry and Dark signed from T1. ;/
Did you double check to make sure none of the barcodes are SKT players in disguise? (also we don't have any details yet, I'd assume INno gets a direct seed)
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