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Blizzard Reportedly Radically Overhauling WCS

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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-12 15:57:14
December 11 2015 23:05 GMT
#1
Blizzard Reportedly Radically Overhauling World Championship Series of ‘StarCraft 2′
The World Championship Series shall now be divided into two parts, WCS Global, which shall incorporate the South Korean Global StarCraft League (GSL) and StarCraft 2 StarLeague (SSL), and the WCS Circuit, which shall have events run by Red Bull, Intel Extreme Masters, and DreamHack. Players will only be allowed to compete in the WCS Circuit component if they have a work or P1 athletic visa that is valid in Europe or North America. A tourist visa will not be sufficient to compete. The top eight players from WCS Global and the top eight from the WCS circuit will go on to make the final sixteen that compete at the WCS Finals at Blizzard’s annual convention, Blizzcon.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/11/blizzard-reportedly-radically-overhauling-world-championship-series-of-starcraft-2/


Mod Edit: Some relevant comments from prominent members of the community.

TotalBiscuit: https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/wcs-2016-rumours-and-na-ladder
Catz:


On December 12 2015 21:36 NarutO wrote:
In a long time I can say that this gives a reason to be ashamed working in eSports. I question how Blizzard can name Blizzcon the very best 16 players in the world when they are preventing Koreans to qualify through it also decreasing competition in nearly all major EU and NA tournaments.

While not every agreed and liked that Koreans come to foreign tournaments and dominate them, I believe LOTV was a chance for a fresh start - while I believe personally that the game favors Koreans more than HOTS I still believe that it was exciting to see how foreign players did vs Koreans even when they lost. Now Dreamhack , IEM and other tournaments (dont forget qualifiers as well) are "a better Go4Sc2 Sunday". Makes me very sad.

I am aware that Koreans could move over and that is the intention but lets be honest - how many Koreans will leave KeSPa and move over? You need a team, financial support and most important of all: I guess most are not comfortable with giving up their life to move into a foreign country.


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minigwar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States33 Posts
December 11 2015 23:09 GMT
#2
Crazy if true.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16836 Posts
December 11 2015 23:11 GMT
#3
total garbage if true.
The Bomber boy
Suchbalancemuchwow
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
76 Posts
December 11 2015 23:11 GMT
#4
So Dreamhack and the like, will only feature foreigners because koreans aren't allowed to play in them, which effectively kills the level of play in over half of the tournaments including the eventual WCS global?

Neat.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:12:27
December 11 2015 23:11 GMT
#5
....................................................................................

If this means no Koreans at IEM then I'll be devastated.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:12:17
December 11 2015 23:12 GMT
#6
Korea getting screwed over so hard in both SC2 and LoL next year
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 11 2015 23:12 GMT
#7
On December 12 2015 08:11 Wintex wrote:
total garbage if true.

I think I wouldn't be totally (just mostly) against Blizzcon featuring more foreigners but locking Koreans out of events like IEM and DH is really sad to hear even considered.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 11 2015 23:13 GMT
#8
This is certainly a big deal and I hope it works out for the best. Having KeSPA Koreans not being able to compete in foreign events period is going to encourage a lot of Koreans to leave KeSPA I'd imagine.
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:14:03
December 11 2015 23:13 GMT
#9
I wonder whether how that will impact viewership of foreign events......
toinewx
Profile Joined November 2013
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:26:56
December 11 2015 23:14 GMT
#10
Look at Fan Clubs, (Z)IdrA Topic is by far the largest, where topics like (T)INnoVation and (Z)Life remain confidential.
Most average people don't care about skill or whatever, they only care when they see their flag displayed on the screen, they somehow Start to feel powerful and maybe have an erection
this is as dumb as Olympic games where countries get reward for the strengh of individuals
Innovation mindset FTW
Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-12 14:37:18
December 11 2015 23:15 GMT
#11
Hmm... wonder how this will play out.
I would rather eat than see my children starve.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 11 2015 23:15 GMT
#12
Looks like the KR and foreign scenes will be separated now, more than ever. This sucks ass.
jcairne
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States127 Posts
December 11 2015 23:16 GMT
#13
To put this into better understanding, how hard is it for Koreans to get work visas? I'm really not familar with the process at all. Is it possible for them to get a work visa even though they live and train in South Korea?
RichardNPL
Profile Joined November 2015
185 Posts
December 11 2015 23:17 GMT
#14
So will there be 2 brackets at blizzcon one for koreans and one for foreigners?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
December 11 2015 23:17 GMT
#15
Ouch, lack of Koreans in big name tournaments really makes me not care. In my mind, those tournaments are "casual mode".
T P Z sagi
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 11 2015 23:17 GMT
#16
That would suck. The 2015 format was good I feel.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16836 Posts
December 11 2015 23:18 GMT
#17
On December 12 2015 08:16 jcairne wrote:
To put this into better understanding, how hard is it for Koreans to get work visas? I'm really not familar with the process at all. Is it possible for them to get a work visa even though they live and train in South Korea?

Getting a work visa with a job like esports can be quite hard to take seriously considering it's not as well known as other sports. It takes a lot of time and documentation etc.
The Bomber boy
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:20:25
December 11 2015 23:19 GMT
#18
For the WCS Circuit.

Will Blizzard finally enforce a number of spots for foreigners in the Open qualifiers? Otherwise it's just going to be more of the B-Koreans that can get visas taking over these tournaments.

If they don't region lock the WCS Circuit, pretty much 0 chances for foreigners making it to Blizzcon. But if they do region lock the WCS Circuit, it will significantly lower the level of play, no more herO, Flash, Solar, Life, Innovation type players.
SmykuToronto
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland269 Posts
December 11 2015 23:23 GMT
#19
Let's start betting!
5$ says Ro16. of Blizzcon will be over in under 4 hours. 4 hours 5 minutes if Lillekanin somehow gets in.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2202 Posts
December 11 2015 23:23 GMT
#20
What a surprise
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