EPTand, ofc, once again two lowrank korean on top of the foreigners. wcs was not good this season
[WCS] Finals Weekend Recap - Page 4
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Cazimirbzh
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and, ofc, once again two lowrank korean on top of the foreigners. wcs was not good this season | ||
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syroz
France249 Posts
Despite the late organization and the quite small town, the crownd was amazing. (day 3 at least :D ) Nerd chills! | ||
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ThorPool
Panama145 Posts
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lfvtavares
Brazil3 Posts
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
Impressive. | ||
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elwoodng
Singapore438 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3772 Posts
On April 06 2015 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote: Evil truly never dies. Also that's amazing that Polt has won a tournament every year since SC2 came out SC2 came out in 2010, a year of 3 GSLs, 3 MLGs, 2 IEMs, 1 BlizzCon and 1 DreamHack (for SC2). In neither of these did Polt make even a deep run. | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On April 07 2015 02:42 nimdil wrote: SC2 came out in 2010, a year of 3 GSLs, 3 MLGs, 2 IEMs, 1 BlizzCon and 1 DreamHack (for SC2). In neither of these did Polt make even a deep run. Polt played seven matches in 2010 though : http://aligulac.com/m/4Aq0LGpn0rScJTvT/ And one GSL Ro16 isn't that bad. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 07 2015 02:49 TheAnarchy wrote: Polt is the second best terran ever maybe tied with taeja I'd still give #2 to MMA | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On April 06 2015 12:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Was this ever called into question? Mvp > Taeja > MMA > Bogus = Polt = Maru At his peak MMA really seemed amazing, but he fell of rather quickly and even during his peak he lost just about every head to head match-up against Polt (remember the Super Tournament finals when everyone was riding the MMA hype train?) I tend to think Polt is tied with Taeja for #2, both of them showed they can play in Korea but did most of their winning outside of Korea. Taeja's gone on crazier hot streaks than Polt, but Polt has won more prestigious tournaments in my opinion than Taeja. | ||
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Megafather
138 Posts
On April 06 2015 23:22 Cazimirbzh wrote: Shame on Hydra for loosing this ...being able to stomp on everyone and then throwing the finals like this. bad hydra, bad^^ and, ofc, once again two lowrank korean on top of the foreigners. wcs was not good this season On April 06 2015 22:00 Orlok wrote: Wont lie, seeing Hydra getting to a final of a tier 1 premier league tournament that easily, and having an almost laughable ro.4 opponent was rather upsetting. I mean, I don't disrespect Hydra as a person; he decided he wanted new experiences in his progaming life, and made a difficult choice to completely move and live in the US, which whatever anyone says, isn't easy for a person who has lived in KR for his whole life and never really learnt english. But as a player, while he was in KR and playing in the GSL, he never got better then Ro.32 and was demoted several times to Code A, and now makes it to a final immediately after switching regions. Like, just....come on. A player who had no real results apart from some decent qualifier runs and tier 2 tournament performances, who was nicknamed the 20 minute zerg for losing games that he was in a dominant position before losing control and submitting losses after the 20 minute mark comes in and busts into the finals of WCS. Not great for WCS; despite shipping off most of the koreans who used to play in WCS EU/NA, I find it difficult to imagine a scenario where the round of 8 for every WCS from now will be pretty much a stomping ground for the few koreans staying, with a couple of brave foreigners trying and failing to beat them in bo.5.s People jump to assumptions and think they know what they are saying while coming of as ignorant. So maybe less people share these opinions here are some FACTS: 1.Hydra at Gfinity a weak ago beat Fantasy 2-0, Rogue 3-1 and lost to Parting 4-2 in the finals. Parting that just almost beat Life. (opinion: how about he is simply on a much better form now then he ever was when on a kespa team? Maybe the same can be said about Parting? Who left Kespa and is having much better results now??) 2.MMA, etc.... (I'm lazy so won't do the research, sorry). | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On April 06 2015 23:22 Cazimirbzh wrote: Shame on Hydra for loosing this ...being able to stomp on everyone and then throwing the finals like this. bad hydra, bad^^ and, ofc, once again two lowrank korean on top of the foreigners. wcs was not good this season That is some high quality bait right there.....I mean seriously that finals was better than half the GSL finals | ||
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nimdil
Poland3772 Posts
Second (lol) it. MMA peak was definitely more impressive - Polt's Super Tournaemnt run always felt like a bit of an accident. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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zaxx
United States66 Posts
On April 06 2015 18:34 opisska wrote: If I understand it correctly, Hydra moved to the US a couple of months ago with the sole purpose of competing in the new WCS, didn't he? Whereas Polt at least went there to study on a University. But the point of Polt is not that important, we can condemn him as well, if you wish. About the visa thing, this happens with almost every my post lately, people make the point that I had in mind, but try to turn in into an argument against me. What am I doing wrong? Hell yes, I know that they don't give the visas left and right and that is the problem! Getting an U.S. visa is a lottery if anything and that is exactly my point - the second place in this WCS was decided by a combination of good support in dealing with bureaucracy and probably luck. How does that have anything to do with Starcraft? (And please don't start telling me that it's just a question of working hard to get the visa, I know so many people who got denied work or student visa for absolutely random and absurd reasons while people who didn't make any effort got in easily.) I can't speak for Hydra and his situation, but if done right, the process to getting a P1-A visa from the United States is actually a very intricate and long one that has actually very little to do with luck. I can speak for the process that Cyber Solutions Agency went through to get theirs. It took about 3-4 months of leg work from the agency to collect and produce the documentation required for an optimal shot at getting accepted for the visa. The application viOlet and Polt submitted had an estimated total of around 500 pages that included translated interviews from notable sources, letters of recommendations from key entities of the industry, a 3 year schedule of the known professional tournaments that said player would attend, a 10 page summary of the eSports industry including sourced statistics, and much more. With that being said, US immigration is very careful on who they give these long-term visas to, and if you have a checkered past with immigration it might make it difficult to obtain the visa. viOlet stayed in the US for close to a year on the ESTA visa (not recommended), yet he was still able to obtain the visa. More information regarding the visa viOlet and Polt have can be found here: http://www.dailydot.com/esports/kim-violet-dong-hwan-recognized-athlete-us-government/ | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
and about tournaments, tournament structure, and especially the tournament results when it comes to starcraft 2, you are downplaying everything that's required of a player in order to actually be a champion. you are also overlooking how difficult of a road it is for the foreigners who get "stomped on". whether one thing is more difficult than another it does not matter, it's still extremely hard to the point that none of us could become professionals in an entire lifetime even if we needed to--let alone produce results that you deem satisfactory. fucking second place, or ro4 finisher is nothing to scoff at for people on the outside. the only person who can actually feel and live the shame is the player who finished at that stage of the tournament. what i'm saying is, have some god-damned respect, and look at what you're saying about people who are much higher up than yourself. | ||
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
Also: these Koreans don't profit from the Korean training environment anymore and Koreans aren't genetically superior, you know? :-P | ||
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pNRG
United States333 Posts
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but overall this WCS was pretty lame at times and the concept is just wrong. Yes, there were high viewer numbers, but this was the first time, so nobody could know upfront how bad some of the games are going to be. Next time I think people will be more scpetical and tune in only for the eventual Korean-Korean or Korean/Bunny/Snute matches.
