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[WCS] Finals Weekend Recap - Page 2
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Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
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Defenestrator
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
On April 06 2015 11:24 BretZ wrote: Will this finally give Polt consideration for one of the best sc2 terrans...ever? Polt was one of the best before this win. Only Taeja, MVP and MMA are ahead... Polt is one of the best SC2 players period. 7 premier titles with ridiculous longevity | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On April 06 2015 12:53 Defenestrator wrote: Hydra had a maassive throw in game 5. Engaged off of creep with ultras RIGHT WHEN ARMOR AND 3/3 WAS ABOUT TO FINISH. He waits for that engagement another 20 seconds and he wins WCS. Polt threw the Overgrowth game as well by walking his army into banelings. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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bypLy
757 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
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rice_devOurer
United States773 Posts
On April 06 2015 12:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Was this ever called into question? Mvp > Taeja > MMA > Bogus = Polt = Maru > Flash  | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On April 06 2015 12:36 Shellshock wrote: I'm so bummed about Hydra not winning this Yeah  nerves got himat the end.. he was doing stupid mistakes. Polt kept his cool and came back and that completly tilted Hydra. But it was a really good run for him. | ||
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bObA
France300 Posts
The 3 games in a row Hydra won were like : "ok I am Korean now you are no more a Korean but just a little foreigner I will eat for my dinner" And I was very sad for Polt when he stayed like 5 minutes in a games with 0 scvs and 2 banshees... I thought he do not accept the defeat which is unavoidable because hydra is was too good... But Polt was keeping his mind and with a lot of good decision makings, even if as a lot of guys said here, some bad engagements off creep for hydras, he succeeded to realize one the best come back of Sc2. The best one for me was Soulkey losing 0-3 against Innovation in Gsl final and finally wining 4-3. Gg both Polt and Hydra ! Will sure we will see them often in the future | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 06 2015 11:22 Jer99 wrote: ForGG has world class TvT, that's why they said ForGG ForGG has WCS-class TvT, and you know what it means | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Not even. > Bomber = Marineking > Flash | ||
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Madars
Latvia166 Posts
On April 06 2015 08:17 stuchiu wrote: Incidentally: Scenario 1: (T)Polt 4 - 3 (Z)Hydra. I've read enough comicbooks to know now that the showdown happens in the finals and that it must be Captain America vs Red Skull Hydra. As Polt cuts down Hydra in the 7th game, Hydra will scream, "CUT ME DOWN AND 2 MORE KOREANS WILL RISE IN MY PLACE." Then in WCS Season 2 he comes back with Jaedong and Stardust. Dun dun dun. he comes back with Jaedong and Stardust and ForGG and Polt. Derp derp derp. How come Polt is not in top10 on TLPD in tl frontpage? | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
The grand finals itself was fantastic games and awesomely nail-biting - for me particularly because of my hatred towards how Hydra got there, so I should actually congratulate WCS for creating that story but overall this WCS was pretty lame at times and the concept is just wrong. Yes, there were high viewer numbers, but this was the first time, so nobody could know upfront how bad some of the games are going to be. Next time I think people will be more scpetical and tune in only for the eventual Korean-Korean or Korean/Bunny/Snute matches. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On April 06 2015 18:05 opisska wrote: While I was cheering for Polt out of sheer love for him, it's kinda pity that Hydra didn't win, because that would expose the absurdity of this WCS to the maximum. Polt at least is someone who truly lives outside Korea for a reason and it would be honestly difficult for him to compete in Korean tournaments. But Hydra? This guy just shows that the only three things standing between a horde of sufficiently high-level Koreans ) and easy money and WCS points are willingness to move, visa bureaucracy and Polt. Hydra is pretty good for an "export Korean", but there are dozens of guys of comparable skill in Korea who end in Ro16s of the two leagues. The grand finals itself was fantastic games and awesomely nail-biting - for me particularly because of my hatred towards how Hydra got there, so I should actually congratulate WCS for creating that story but overall this WCS was pretty lame at times and the concept is just wrong. Yes, there were high viewer numbers, but this was the first time, so nobody could know upfront how bad some of the games are going to be. Next time I think people will be more scpetical and tune in only for the eventual Korean-Korean or Korean/Bunny/Snute matches.Isn't Hydra living in the Root house? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 06 2015 18:05 opisska wrote: While I was cheering for Polt out of sheer love for him, it's kinda pity that Hydra didn't win, because that would expose the absurdity of this WCS to the maximum. Polt at least is someone who truly lives outside Korea for a reason and it would be honestly difficult for him to compete in Korean tournaments. But Hydra? This guy just shows that the only three things standing between a horde of sufficiently high-level Koreans ) and easy money and WCS points are willingness to move, visa bureaucracy and Polt. Hydra is pretty good for an "export Korean", but there are dozens of guys of comparable skill in Korea who end in Ro16s of the two leagues. The grand finals itself was fantastic games and awesomely nail-biting - for me particularly because of my hatred towards how Hydra got there, so I should actually congratulate WCS for creating that story but overall this WCS was pretty lame at times and the concept is just wrong. Yes, there were high viewer numbers, but this was the first time, so nobody could know upfront how bad some of the games are going to be. Next time I think people will be more scpetical and tune in only for the eventual Korean-Korean or Korean/Bunny/Snute matches.Do you know that the willingness to move full-time from your home to a totally foreign country is actually something that not many people have? That the "visa bureaucracy" actually doesn't give working visas left and right? Hydra lives full-time in the USA afaik, he speaks decently good english already, he obtained a legit visa just like Polt. There is no reason to consider that Polt "truly lives" outside of Korea and not Hydra. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 06 2015 18:23 OtherWorld wrote: Do you know that the willingness to move full-time from your home to a totally foreign country is actually something that not many people have? That the "visa bureaucracy" actually doesn't give working visas left and right? Hydra lives full-time in the USA afaik, he speaks decently good english already, he obtained a legit visa just like Polt. There is no reason to consider that Polt "truly lives" outside of Korea and not Hydra. If I understand it correctly, Hydra moved to the US a couple of months ago with the sole purpose of competing in the new WCS, didn't he? Whereas Polt at least went there to study on a University. But the point of Polt is not that important, we can condemn him as well, if you wish. About the visa thing, this happens with almost every my post lately, people make the point that I had in mind, but try to turn in into an argument against me. What am I doing wrong? Hell yes, I know that they don't give the visas left and right and that is the problem! Getting an U.S. visa is a lottery if anything and that is exactly my point - the second place in this WCS was decided by a combination of good support in dealing with bureaucracy and probably luck. How does that have anything to do with Starcraft? (And please don't start telling me that it's just a question of working hard to get the visa, I know so many people who got denied work or student visa for absolutely random and absurd reasons while people who didn't make any effort got in easily.) | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 06 2015 18:34 opisska wrote: If I understand it correctly, Hydra moved to the US a couple of months ago with the sole purpose of competing in the new WCS, didn't he? Whereas Polt at least went there to study on a University. But the point of Polt is not that important, we can condemn him as well, if you wish. About the visa thing, this happens with almost every my post lately, people make the point that I had in mind, but try to turn in into an argument against me. What am I doing wrong? Hell yes, I know that they don't give the visas left and right and that is the problem! Getting an U.S. visa is a lottery if anything and that is exactly my point - the second place in this WCS was decided by a combination of good support in dealing with bureaucracy and probably luck. How does that have anything to do with Starcraft? (And please don't start telling me that it's just a question of working hard to get the visa, I know so many people who got denied work or student visa for absolutely random and absurd reasons while people who didn't make any effort got in easily.) Hydra left CJ because of, according to EffOrt at least, unbearable relationships with his coach, due to matchfixing accusations. He then joined a foreign team, ROOT, before (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember the exact dates) Blizzard announced precise requirements for WCS 2015. Did he join ROOT for the sole purpose of playing WCS? We don't know ; other players joined foreign teams and still play in Korea, they joined foreign teams for more travel/fans/freedom/etc. I think that Hydra is more comparable to ForGG or StarDust, players who chosed to live abroad. As for the visas well yeah, I'm absolutely not qualified to talk about that, so I dunno. From what I understand though the main thing Blizzard wanted to achieve with their visa requirements was basically to allow Koreans who live full-time in a foreign country to compete. That sounds legit to me. | ||
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EvilsPresley
France132 Posts
If the new WCS rules are meant to give exposure to foreigners, it's a fail. Snute was 17th in WCS rankings last year. I bet that no foreigner will be top 20 this year, because foreigners are just not on same level. Maybe because they meet less koreans now? So in the end, all the WCS rules broke the travelling kr (MC, Jaedong, Stardust...) but did not help foreigners at all. Now WCS system will give 2/3 slots for foreign koreans to join Blizzcon (yay, get a VISA, get a decent level, reach top 16!), where they will get destroyed in first round by Kespaers/Parting and then it will just be another mini GSL. This week end plays were good, but the overall impact on the scene was really disapointing for me :-( | ||
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