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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
March 22 2015 14:41 GMT
#461
On March 22 2015 07:41 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 07:15 Cazimirbzh wrote:
On March 22 2015 06:42 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
The question remains, will Nvidia give another SC2 streamer a chance?

I hope they will because viewbot is a flaw coming from twitch not winter.

it's real sc2 drama but episode 2 will be aired in 6 months maybe sooner, winter just need to clear this with twitch and reapply, 1 clear conti awesome review and i see no reason why he should not be featured again.

It is Twitch's flaw, but it was something Winter abused. Nvidia's trust was betrayed, and I expect them to be hesitant to trust another streamer now that the flaw was exposed.

We will see what Winter will try to do. His reputation is now tarnished, and he will have to work 5 times as hard to earn back the trust of the audience. If he does try, lets hope he learned from his mistakes.


Do you have some kind of hidden data somewhere ?

Nvidia's reaction is understandable, i dont think the facts that 1) it was sc2 and 2) it was winter had anything to do with their decision. I dont think they anticipated view botting.

He's still around 1k-1.5 k so dont worry about him :p


On March 22 2015 21:24 hZCube wrote:
Yeah, it surprises me how many people are still talking as though it's a foregone conclusion that Winter did indeed viewbot himself, despite no hard evidence to that effect (all circumstantial). I hope someday people summary judgement you with such short thrift, and you are given an opportunity to prove yourself innocent, despite knowing that such proof cannot exist.

Must be fun for him :/

Innocent until proven guilty. It's such a basic concept, I'm just surprised so many people can disregard it so completely, as to believe that it doesn't apply in some cases, of their choosing.

This is why we can crucify guilty people, in some cases, actually kill them. Because we understand that once proven guilty, there is no doubt. Until then, it's a lynchmob out to hunt an outsider.

Fact is, several vocal people have always disliked Winter, stemming as far as I can see from his origins. He didn't cut his teeth as a pro gamer in tournaments, so he's not allowed to join the boys club. People citing Idra as a pin up from time gone past.. Are you serious? Idra was a horrible horrible person and example of how to be an ass online. Yes, he got viewers, but then again so did a certain video featuring some girls and a cup. It's not good content, it's shocking, and pleases the angsty raging teenagers who thrive on that drama.

People say Winter didn't have a quality broadcast, and should of put time into increasing that. I can only assume you haven't watched his broadcast then. His overlay, setup, is second to none in sc2. His format is great, his viewer interaction is good, often they get to pick what he's doing. But no, he didn't get a green screen, didn't setup interactive games, didn't craft a slick looking UI with tons of helpful tips and links, and didn't reach GM, legitimately, on ladder. Oh, wait, yes he did.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like something suspicious might of happened early doors, heck, I'm a business man, shit happens in the real world. Sadly, we'll probably never know for sure what happened. And we'll probably not know what's currently happening either.

Simply put, as I've said before, in the current technical situation, viewers is a horribly corrupt metric to use to measure a channels success, as proven here. Subscribers is a harder metric to fake. Why not use that?



Drama, drama, drama^^

I think it's the first time TL addresses the issue of view botting, winter is a notorious streamer and he was caught in the storm for "good" reasons.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, fanboy but once again your forgot that twitch is running the place, it's their problem if they dont want to lose credibility in what's make them an ADVERTISING company. They dont care about subscribers because they dont make money on them compared to regulars ads.
If viewbotting is a plague, adblock is death herself.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 28 2015 19:41 GMT
#462
I'll be doing my best to get up to 100-150 viewers so that I might be featured!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
-Matt.C-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States12 Posts
March 29 2015 18:20 GMT
#463
Not sure where to post or if I am even supposed to post, but I just want to say that I will do my best to prove myself worthy of getting featured! Hopefully my viewer count which has been above 100 as of late, will stay this way! Really hope to get featured soon!
Temp0
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 17:13:47
March 31 2015 17:03 GMT
#464
I'll be continuing to grow my stream and revive my damn music too >_<. I've been hovering around that 100 tho!! Be on the lookout friends .
SC2 and Video Game Songs! - http://youtube.com/temp0
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
March 31 2015 23:29 GMT
#465
On April 01 2015 02:03 Temp0 wrote:
I'll be continuing to grow my stream and revive my damn music too >_<. I've been hovering around that 100 tho!! Be on the lookout friends .

When's the next Unit Rap Battle coming out?
Procrastination is the enemy
HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 23:39:37
April 04 2015 22:52 GMT
#466
Full time or regular streamer that is considered insightful and informative who plays at a high level, with at least 100-150 viewers


Can I nominate Pilipili for being featured?

He has 100-200 viewers on average, is a commentating top 50 GM (often top 20), and plays in small tournaments regularly. He is one of the only really high quality commentators for sc2 on twitch and beat Huk twice in boX recently.

March: 101 average viewers, 114 hours streaming:
evidence

Feb: 161 avg viewers, 199 hours streaming
evidence

Jan: 174 avg viewers, 198 hours streaming
evidence

Nov: 110 viewers, 167 hours
evidence

defeating the Incredible Hu[l]k:
evidence

quality commentary:
evidence

I was going to make a thread, but I'm not sure where to put it.

Edited to add citations to approach this in an evidence-based way.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 05 2015 17:07 GMT
#467
I have always been curious what winter viewership would be without bots. 800? 900? 300? Those are still pretty good numbers. The guy is a fantastic commentator while playing, its actually impressive all by itself. It's sad that it has come to this but, unfortunately, I agree with what TL did even while being a fan of winter's content. I think hes a good guy and puts on one of the best streams, sadly, hes just gotten "addicted" to that viewer count. Letting it drop down now would just be proof. Very awkward situation :/
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
April 05 2015 17:15 GMT
#468
On April 06 2015 02:07 CursOr wrote:
I have always been curious what winter viewership would be without bots. 800? 900? 300? Those are still pretty good numbers. The guy is a fantastic commentator while playing, its actually impressive all by itself. It's sad that it has come to this but, unfortunately, I agree with what TL did even while being a fan of winter's content. I think hes a good guy and puts on one of the best streams, sadly, hes just gotten "addicted" to that viewer count. Letting it drop down now would just be proof. Very awkward situation :/


it was only because he view botted that he was able to build up that kind of viewers
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 17:30:34
April 05 2015 17:28 GMT
#469
On April 06 2015 02:15 Specialist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 02:07 CursOr wrote:
I have always been curious what winter viewership would be without bots. 800? 900? 300? Those are still pretty good numbers. The guy is a fantastic commentator while playing, its actually impressive all by itself. It's sad that it has come to this but, unfortunately, I agree with what TL did even while being a fan of winter's content. I think hes a good guy and puts on one of the best streams, sadly, hes just gotten "addicted" to that viewer count. Letting it drop down now would just be proof. Very awkward situation :/


it was only because he view botted that he was able to build up that kind of viewers

I disagree. It could have inflated it, but he would still get at least 100 if he had never view botted, if not a lot more. Of course we are just guessing, but that is my opinion.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
April 09 2015 01:21 GMT
#470
Dam.. its always a shame to read threads like this for people you like. I really like winters stream.. Keeps me entertained at work. I remember when combat got me into sc in the first place with his bw tutorials on youtube. And then proceeded to abuse and ruined his name and get banned from TL like no other (deservedly).

Really hope winter can correct his ways and come back stronger. Favorite-ing him so he still shows up
Jaedong.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
April 11 2015 02:12 GMT
#471
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?
Procrastination is the enemy
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 11 2015 02:18 GMT
#472
On April 11 2015 11:12 codonbyte wrote:
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?


Big Brother doesnt approve of Avilo's freedom of speech.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
April 11 2015 02:28 GMT
#473
On April 11 2015 11:18 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 11:12 codonbyte wrote:
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?


Big Brother doesnt approve of Avilo's freedom of speech.

Seriously, first twitch, then blizzard, now youtube? What is it with big websites trying to cover for winter?

Shout out to teamliquid for doing the right thing here.
Procrastination is the enemy
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 11 2015 02:34 GMT
#474
On April 11 2015 11:12 codonbyte wrote:
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?


It sounds like people abusing the mass report feature. Unfortunately that happens quite a bit :[
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
April 11 2015 02:43 GMT
#475
On April 11 2015 11:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 11:12 codonbyte wrote:
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?


It sounds like people abusing the mass report feature. Unfortunately that happens quite a bit :[

Does youtube actually review videos before taking them down? Or is it automatically taken down if it gets flagged too many times?
Procrastination is the enemy
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 11 2015 02:47 GMT
#476
On April 11 2015 11:34 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 11:12 codonbyte wrote:
Damn, youtube just took down avilo's video that was linked in the OP (source).

What the fuck, youtube?


It sounds like people abusing the mass report feature. Unfortunately that happens quite a bit :[


Yeh this is my first experience with this, already appealed it but seems to be very annoying to have happen.
Sup
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 12 2015 03:00 GMT
#477
shouldn't hungrybox be featured for other games?

twitch.tv/hungrybox

he's on Liquid, and he's a top player and everything
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 12 2015 03:30 GMT
#478
On April 06 2015 02:07 CursOr wrote:
I have always been curious what winter viewership would be without bots. 800? 900? 300? Those are still pretty good numbers. The guy is a fantastic commentator while playing, its actually impressive all by itself. It's sad that it has come to this but, unfortunately, I agree with what TL did even while being a fan of winter's content. I think hes a good guy and puts on one of the best streams, sadly, hes just gotten "addicted" to that viewer count. Letting it drop down now would just be proof. Very awkward situation :/

I dno man, Vibe's commentary is way way more informative and he talks all the time too, look at his average viewer count, it clearly isn't only what's needed
PiLiPiLi
Profile Joined June 2012
United States17 Posts
April 17 2015 05:35 GMT
#479
Hello, I just made it to WCS challenger league NA. Can i get featured please?http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/PiLiPiLi
Progamer
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 17 2015 05:38 GMT
#480
On April 17 2015 14:35 PiLiPiLi wrote:
Hello, I just made it to WCS challenger league NA. Can i get featured please?http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/PiLiPiLi


You'll be featured once qualifiers are over (so that everyone gets featured at the same time). Gratz!
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