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2015 Season 1 Map Pool Changes - January 6 - Page 3

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coolman123123
Profile Joined August 2013
146 Posts
January 07 2015 04:26 GMT
#41
I'm glad Overgrowth is back. Yeah it's old, but it's one of the best Zerg maps and it's very dynamic imo. I don't really have a problem with any of these maps, I actually think Secret Spring is cool on paper, and the other two Blizzard maps are pretty uninspired but should be okay. People really like to complain about Blizzard maps but they are rarely THAT bad.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
January 07 2015 04:51 GMT
#42
Fuck me. Overgrowth still exists. T__T
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
January 07 2015 04:58 GMT
#43
id rather taken king sejong back. god i love that map.
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Krobolt
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada42 Posts
January 07 2015 05:19 GMT
#44
I don't mind this change. I wish they would have replaced Deadwing with Overgrowth instead, though.
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friendship
Profile Joined November 2014
32 Posts
January 07 2015 05:23 GMT
#45
Foxtrot is just too funky of a map, its random robots that get in the way of building stuff at crucial moments and its awkward base locations are just so undesirable. Yes Overgrowth has been played for a while now, but it lets you train solid macro games instead of relying on very specific strategies like Foxtrot. There are quite a few strategies that only work on that map, like San's Stargate contain PvT.


You mean strategies that emerge due to map variations are inherently bad? If so I categorically disagree. To be clear I'm not a huge fan of Foxtrot or Deadwing, and as a zerg player Overgrowth was great the first XX-thousand times I played it but there's a good reason to mix things up: e.g. San's Stargate contain PvT on Foxtrot

TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 07 2015 06:30 GMT
#46
How the hell can none of you like DeadWing? This is the best map in the entire pool IMO, it always makes for balanced / interesting and nice macro games, I really hope no Zergs are complaining about DeadWing....This is probably the best Zerg map in last seasons pool atm IMO......

Also I hate foxtrot, I am glad they are removing it...I think most people are upset at map changes every time, because most people all in / cheese every game.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 07 2015 06:37 GMT
#47
I'd love to see another edition of that thing where you basically ask a bunch of various pros what their opinions are on the map changes. I'd love to hear a bunch of different views for the people it most affects.
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iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
January 07 2015 06:54 GMT
#48
The consistency of Blizzard's mind boggling decisions regarding the game and its competitive maps is something to inspire awe once you get past the frustration of it all. Instead of scrapping a horrible map, they just swap back and forth between which of their better maps they want to remove. Amazing.
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Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
January 07 2015 07:01 GMT
#49
On January 07 2015 15:30 GGzerG wrote:
How the hell can none of you like DeadWing? This is the best map in the entire pool IMO, it always makes for balanced / interesting and nice macro games, I really hope no Zergs are complaining about DeadWing....This is probably the best Zerg map in last seasons pool atm IMO......

Also I hate foxtrot, I am glad they are removing it...I think most people are upset at map changes every time, because most people all in / cheese every game.


Because deadwing is an absolute disaster when it comes to making games more interactive, the map just throws bases at you while you don't even have to leave your corner of the map, and worse is that you can defend all of them by parking your deathball in the single choke that leads to them.
"Not you."
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 07 2015 07:27 GMT
#50
On January 07 2015 16:01 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 15:30 GGzerG wrote:
How the hell can none of you like DeadWing? This is the best map in the entire pool IMO, it always makes for balanced / interesting and nice macro games, I really hope no Zergs are complaining about DeadWing....This is probably the best Zerg map in last seasons pool atm IMO......

Also I hate foxtrot, I am glad they are removing it...I think most people are upset at map changes every time, because most people all in / cheese every game.


Because deadwing is an absolute disaster when it comes to making games more interactive, the map just throws bases at you while you don't even have to leave your corner of the map, and worse is that you can defend all of them by parking your deathball in the single choke that leads to them.


Ahh well I can understand that viewpoint absolutely sir, I still feel that most of the games I've played on Deadwing are really fun / nice macro games. But I also have played some of the worst camping ZvT games on Deadwing where the Terran did nothing but camp / go mech / make 50 orbitals and continue to mass raven , ect.... a nightmare :-p
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Cool C
Profile Joined November 2011
United States69 Posts
January 07 2015 07:54 GMT
#51
Well now all the zergs can try Leenock's crazy ZvP gold base build from PL on Overgrowth next season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KD6L23MUQ
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 07 2015 08:01 GMT
#52
On January 07 2015 16:54 Cool C wrote:
Well now all the zergs can try Leenock's crazy ZvP gold base build from PL on Overgrowth next season


Protoss Players are just going to start 1gate FEing again ! :O
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PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
January 07 2015 08:08 GMT
#53
Wait... first announcement of maps was all about "remove Nimbus,Foxtrot" give KSS, Over back... They did at least something and now its the exact opposite "Remove overgrowth, give Foxtrot Back"... I feel like sometimes this community is like a girl on her "days"... jesus maps are the last thing which needs a tweak in SC2 !

"I will throw this in.. how long have been Fighting Spirit and Frost played"
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 08:29:10
January 07 2015 08:28 GMT
#54
Ah nooooo. I am pretty tired of Overgrowth. It doesn't have the x-factor that a Daybreak or Cloud had when they were in the pool for about 323 years straight. I also agree with the comment here that Foxtrot finally started giving some cool games lately, I think that map wasn't completely ready to go yet.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
pieroog
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland146 Posts
January 07 2015 08:33 GMT
#55
On January 07 2015 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
is overgrowth going to become the new daybreak that sticks around forever?


Overgrowth is essentially Daybreak that had been rotated and recoloured.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
January 07 2015 08:43 GMT
#56
On January 07 2015 17:33 pieroog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
is overgrowth going to become the new daybreak that sticks around forever?


Overgrowth is essentially Daybreak that had been rotated and recoloured.


Seems shorter to me and less central action packed
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 07 2015 08:50 GMT
#57
Cant believe we still play Dual Sights clones in 2015. And thats not only Overgrowth. When will Sc2 reach the map diversity level of BW? Let Korean decides the pool maybe?
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
January 07 2015 09:33 GMT
#58
On January 07 2015 17:50 Arceus wrote:
Cant believe we still play Dual Sights clones in 2015. And thats not only Overgrowth. When will Sc2 reach the map diversity level of BW? Let Korean decides the pool maybe?

Sure BW generally has good map diversity, but they're also still playing Fighting Spirit clones in 2015. Hell, they're even still using the original Fighting Spirit.
vibeo gane,
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 10:37:02
January 07 2015 10:34 GMT
#59
I will miss Foxtrot. To me it was truly a map that brought diversity and new kind of playstyles to SC.

Overgrowth is still nice, but meh. Deadwing could have gone without a regret...

Also the fact they keep all the new ones and not Expedition lost is kind of sad.

On January 07 2015 17:50 Arceus wrote:
Cant believe we still play Dual Sights clones in 2015. And thats not only Overgrowth. When will Sc2 reach the map diversity level of BW? Let Korean decides the pool maybe?


Damn, i have a few ideas of crazy maps, but I'm bad at mapmaking (+ never find the time....)
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 10:39:14
January 07 2015 10:36 GMT
#60
On January 07 2015 17:50 Arceus wrote:
Cant believe we still play Dual Sights clones in 2015. And thats not only Overgrowth. When will Sc2 reach the map diversity level of BW? Let Korean decides the pool maybe?

Where are the dual sights clones ? Please enlighten me. Are you just calling any 2 player map using rotational symmetry a "dual sights clone" like some ignorant people would call them Cloud Kingdoms clone or is there something big that i'm missing ?
rly ?
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