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On December 16 2014 05:02 Jampackedeon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:19 Plexa wrote:On December 15 2014 23:16 ivancype wrote:
It is not a unreasonable decision at all, CS:GO had around 7x more viewers than SC2 this last DH.
It is just kinda sad for SC2. Sums up my thoughts pretty well. Well be interesting to see if there's a hit to the prize pool. The production quality of the SC2 shows, at DH and in general, has gotten much stronger recently. Hopefully LotV will help bring back interest and give the numbers a boost as well.
Eh, honestly I was a little less than impressed with production quality at this last DH. Something seemed...off, but it was a tad unusual for them so maybe there was something going on at the venue.
I do think that they have too much downtime though, that has to hurt viewership. I know I tune out a lot during long downtimes and don't always come back right away.
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On December 16 2014 05:04 Noonius wrote:
lotv can't come fast enough
LotV won't magically fix the playerbase, though.
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On December 16 2014 04:31 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:25 DinosaurPoop wrote:To be completely fair CSGO completely wiped the floor with the viewership last Dreamhack. Well deserved spot for CS:GO! edit: On December 16 2014 04:16 JustPassingBy wrote:Imo, one of the reasons why CS:GO has such incredible numbers is because the Koreans haven't gotten enough time to perfect it yet.  Nah european CS has been pretty good for years Give them more time. With the resurgence of the Counterstrike scene, more people might be encouraged to play in it.
If you expect Koreans to dominate CS scene anytime in the future, you are up for a bigger dissapointment than Kespa fans with their elephants on sc2.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 16 2014 05:08 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:31 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2014 04:25 DinosaurPoop wrote:To be completely fair CSGO completely wiped the floor with the viewership last Dreamhack. Well deserved spot for CS:GO! edit: On December 16 2014 04:16 JustPassingBy wrote:Imo, one of the reasons why CS:GO has such incredible numbers is because the Koreans haven't gotten enough time to perfect it yet. Nah european CS has been pretty good for years Give them more time. With the resurgence of the Counterstrike scene, more people might be encouraged to play in it. If you expect Koreans to dominate CS scene anytime in the future, you are up for a bigger dissapointment than Kespa fans with their elephants on sc2.
At least they can dominate the Korean CS game crossfire :>
Crossfire the elephant in the room?
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I am not surprised, really. I think it won't be a big problem in the short run. But I could see a future where national tv like svt or the other media outlets start to drop sc2 in favour of cs and lol. That'll be more problematic for us.
And this is not me saying "daed gaem" but rather that I am surprised that sc2 has remained a frontline title for so many different things even while it has a smaller base of people watching than the other games. It won't mean the death for sc2 but it's not gonna be fun.
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On December 16 2014 05:08 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:31 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2014 04:25 DinosaurPoop wrote:To be completely fair CSGO completely wiped the floor with the viewership last Dreamhack. Well deserved spot for CS:GO! edit: On December 16 2014 04:16 JustPassingBy wrote:Imo, one of the reasons why CS:GO has such incredible numbers is because the Koreans haven't gotten enough time to perfect it yet. Nah european CS has been pretty good for years Give them more time. With the resurgence of the Counterstrike scene, more people might be encouraged to play in it. If you expect Koreans to dominate CS scene anytime in the future, you are up for a bigger dissapointment than Kespa fans with their elephants on sc2.
Not sure why one is related with the other. Sure, the Kespa elephants might have performed worse than some people anticipated, but it's definitely not because of the European or NA players, haha. ^.^
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Its nice to see that most people on TL don't seem to mind anymore. SC2 has its nice niche role, and will continue to draw in around the same number of viewers for probably a few more years. I feel like most of the people who wanted sc2 to be the next big thing have moved on to other games, so all that's left is a slightly more mature audience. Its popularity is certainly not going to increase, but its not that important for SC2 to be the main draw. It has its nice little audience, and is entertaining for its people  . Its sufficient
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On December 16 2014 05:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:08 Godwrath wrote:On December 16 2014 04:31 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2014 04:25 DinosaurPoop wrote:To be completely fair CSGO completely wiped the floor with the viewership last Dreamhack. Well deserved spot for CS:GO! edit: On December 16 2014 04:16 JustPassingBy wrote:Imo, one of the reasons why CS:GO has such incredible numbers is because the Koreans haven't gotten enough time to perfect it yet. Nah european CS has been pretty good for years Give them more time. With the resurgence of the Counterstrike scene, more people might be encouraged to play in it. If you expect Koreans to dominate CS scene anytime in the future, you are up for a bigger dissapointment than Kespa fans with their elephants on sc2. At least they can dominate the Korean CS game crossfire :> Crossfire the elephant in the room?
It's settled.
Now we can only pray so they don't switch to CSGO or the stampede will get real.
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pretty excited about this. CS:GO's definitely earned their place considering how much the scene is growing.
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is the source even reliable?
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Can't say it wasn't expected after seeing how well CS:GO did at DH Winter. Sad to see Starcraft 2 be relegated I guess but what can you do, at least they're not practically shoving us away. *cough cough MLG*
obligatory "if only robert ohlen were here" comment
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this is what happens when robert's dad's in charge.
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On December 15 2014 22:57 [F_]aths wrote:
Well, when LotV brings SC2 back to new heights,
haha
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Great, now maybe Valve will fix their CS maps.
SC2 will still be there, so who cares. I'm actually surprised that SC2 was their "main game" and not Dota or something like that.
And for the people that are saying that CS scene is "growing"... LOL. CS was always more popular than SC(2 and BW).
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I am actually surprised CS wasn't already its maingame. Sc2 viewer numbers have been really bad over the last 6-8 months (aside from WCS).
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On December 16 2014 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
Great, now maybe Valve will fix their CS maps.
SC2 will still be there, so who cares. I'm actually surprised that SC2 was their "main game" and not Dota or something like that.
And for the people that are saying that CS scene is "growing"... LOL. CS was always more popular than SC(2 and BW).
I don't think CS was more popular than BW at their respective peaks?
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On December 16 2014 06:03 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
Great, now maybe Valve will fix their CS maps.
SC2 will still be there, so who cares. I'm actually surprised that SC2 was their "main game" and not Dota or something like that.
And for the people that are saying that CS scene is "growing"... LOL. CS was always more popular than SC(2 and BW). I don't think CS was more popular than BW at their respective peaks?
nothing topped bw 2006-2009 days so far I know.
also cs:go was pretty much dead a few years so this what they did with that game was amazing.
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sc2 does not have as much 'micro excitement' as BW did. Due to some newbification and some worse unit controls.
Then throw in SH and watching/playing sc2 can get frustrating. Sadly hotv will still have SH... I think sc2 will keep going downhill.
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On December 16 2014 06:22 Hotshot wrote:
sc2 does not have as much 'micro excitement' as BW did. Due to some newbification and some worse unit controls.
Then throw in SH and watching/playing sc2 can get frustrating. Sadly hotv will still have SH... I think sc2 will keep going downhill.
Completely different swarm hosts though
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Oh well. Shame I don't enjoy watching FPS.
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