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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 07 2014 20:28 p14c wrote: It's not surprising since D. Kim gets his "pro-feedback" from people like Tod and Huk. Tod and Huk are the worst people for David Kim to listen to. Don't think you'll find two more biased players in the scene. He should ask Demuslim for feedback as he can be trusted. | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On December 08 2014 12:11 starslayer wrote: so now that life won wcs, parting won hsc, forgg won DH, SOS won hot6, and either toss or terran will win IEM can we say the game is pretty balanced and new maps that help zerg would make it just about perfect. is this really needed i mean come on this is just silly. From my humble low-league opinion, zergs will be well developed in lotv like Terrans are in WoL and HotS. Many viable strategies even at tier1, more powerfull defencing tools, more ways to attack enemy and finaly ways to dictate the game. Now every ZvT usually muta-bane-ling. Only rarely we can see something exotic like Swarm Host vs Terran with bio. That worked well for one or two games, then it goes again back to classic muta-ling-bane. | ||
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691175002
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meenamjah
Canada51 Posts
On December 08 2014 12:11 starslayer wrote: so now that life won wcs, parting won hsc, forgg won DH, SOS won hot6, and either toss or terran will win IEM can we say the game is pretty balanced and new maps that help zerg would make it just about perfect. is this really needed i mean come on this is just silly. seriously, what's wrong with those idiots? first, they refuse to fix the obviously broken infestor for, what, almost two years?. and now they're just nerfing and buffing without giving things enough time to settle. just when other races were adjusting to terran, they completely nerf terran into the ground. so they buff terran. now that everyone's adjusting to it again, they're gonna nerf. the stupidity is mind boggling. | ||
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Maniak_
France305 Posts
On December 08 2014 12:57 meenamjah wrote: [...] first, they refuse to fix the obviously broken infestor for, what, almost two years?. [...] just when other races were adjusting to terran, they completely nerf terran into the ground. [...] now that everyone's adjusting to it again, they're gonna nerf. the stupidity is mind boggling. Yup, you're right. The stupidity is mind boggling. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
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Samx
Singapore149 Posts
On December 08 2014 13:43 Rollora wrote: PvP Finals at IEM. Hmm lets wait for the meta to evolve before balance patching anything? Rain and hero are a level or 2 above the rest of the field. Maybe bomber comes close but the edge should go to rain. No flash, no Taeja, no innovation in the tournament. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2655 Posts
On December 08 2014 14:56 Samx wrote: Rain and hero are a level or 2 above the rest of the field. Maybe bomber comes close but the edge should go to rain. No flash, no Taeja, no innovation in the tournament. Innovation lost to herO in the Hot6 Cup | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
But Innovation eventually beat herO and qualified for the RO8 | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8635 Posts
On December 08 2014 05:33 Canucklehead wrote: Tod and Huk are the worst people for David Kim to listen to. Don't think you'll find two more biased players in the scene. He should ask Demuslim for feedback as he can be trusted. Fight fire with fire. Me likey ~ | ||
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Enigmasc
United Kingdom147 Posts
On December 08 2014 13:37 Maniak_ wrote: Yup, you're right. The stupidity is mind boggling. the nerf to mine shiled damage is tiny and hasnt even goen through yet, not to mention blizzards already stated there holding off and doing anything but that untill after the map pool has changed to less T favoured? its like some people havent even read the balance update | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On December 08 2014 12:57 meenamjah wrote: seriously, what's wrong with those idiots? first, they refuse to fix the obviously broken infestor for, what, almost two years?. and now they're just nerfing and buffing without giving things enough time to settle. just when other races were adjusting to terran, they completely nerf terran into the ground. so they buff terran. now that everyone's adjusting to it again, they're gonna nerf. the stupidity is mind boggling. What is stupidity? BL+infestor era was like 6 months long, it started when the queens got the range buffs after ghost got nerfed. First Zerg win was Leenock at MLG in august 2012, then Life in October in Code S. When ghost could snipe BL/ultras nobody was ranting at the infestor, it was actually a necessary tool to keep zergs alive. Watch MMA vs DRG finals if you don't remember. Plus the last monthes don't count much cause all devs were working on HOTS which was released in march 2013. Balance is not perfect, maybe, but before calling people idiots or stupids try to at least sound smart yourself... This new mine change is not so big and probably won't make blink all ins or zealot/archons pushes OP again, at least I hope so. The real big issue is the map pool, they seem to have heard this. So let's wait and see. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 08 2014 20:06 Gwavajuice wrote: but before calling people idiots or stupids try to at least... Wait what?? I need to actually try to DO something, or have some minimum level of information before calling people idiots??? :o My entire lifestyle on internet is in shambles! Surely you are joking.... | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 08 2014 04:19 parkufarku wrote: I'm the troll? Says the biased Terran troll who writes the most ridiculous stuff. "Stargate is regularly used in PvT.": + Show Spoiler + Your balance proposals: + Show Spoiler + What a joke. Makes for a really good laugh though. Stargate is regularly used in PvT. Are you denieing that? Also, those balance suggestions were excellent, well explained and backed by data opposite to the rubbish you came up with. | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On December 08 2014 15:29 hansonslee wrote: I really hope that they consider changing the map pool first before doing these balance changes. These two recent tournaments have shown that Protosses are catching up in the PvT meta. Have they really though? Looking at the tournaments where Terran has done well in recently, we either dont see top tier Protoss (Parting / sOs / herO / Classic / Zest / ect) or those Protoss are knocked out by Zerg. We don't actually see T beating top tier P very often, we just haven't seen the top tier P in foreign tournaments lately. I don't think they were ever behind. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 08 2014 14:56 Samx wrote: funny how it is always a skill based win when a protoss wins but when T or Z wins, they all cry balance. If ypu look at the list of premier tournament wins, especially the first half of 2014 almost every toss won something. I wouldn't be surprised if even HuK won something as well. But its great that the moment a non Protoss wins he whines aboit balance.well he did that even during the 9 months of protoss reign..Rain and hero are a level or 2 above the rest of the field. Maybe bomber comes close but the edge should go to rain. No flash, no Taeja, no innovation in the tournament. Balance was never closer to being ok but that its off still is showed by the lack of recent Zerg wins and that the terrans don't have an answer to toss lategame | ||
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