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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 07 2014 22:43 GMT
#681
On November 08 2014 07:38 JoeCool wrote:
It feels like this is Blizzards desperate attempt to make SC 2 casual friendly...

I really wonder how did you get to that idea when most of the new things increase skill cap by quite a bit...?
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
November 07 2014 22:43 GMT
#682
On November 08 2014 07:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:42 Banchan wrote:
On November 08 2014 07:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The answers in the polls are far too oriented (they encourage positive answers) for them to be legit.


They seemed OK except for the lurker lol


"Fucking awesome" is much more tempting than "Hate it".


OH NOES THE POLLS AREN'T OFFICIAL!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
November 07 2014 22:43 GMT
#683
12 workers seems like a bit much, the cheese timing will be kind of early compared to scout timing (especially PvZ, where you often want to 9 pylon scout).

On the other hand, I wonder if it's just my greed wanting to beat lower level players in team games talking. Some people still don't build early workers properly (queuing too much or gaps between building them). I'm trying to wrap my head around whether the change is not as big as it seems.


It will completley change buildorder timings around, but I think it's very hard to determine it's exact consequences. I think overall this is a good experiment as it does pace the boring parts of the game a bit up.
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 22:44:31
November 07 2014 22:44 GMT
#684
On November 08 2014 07:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:42 Banchan wrote:
On November 08 2014 07:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The answers in the polls are far too oriented (they encourage positive answers) for them to be legit.


They seemed OK except for the lurker lol


"Fucking awesome" is much more tempting than "Hate it".


I didn't like either of those options, but I prefer "hate it" to "fucking awesome." Should have been "like," "neutral," "dislike"
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
November 07 2014 22:45 GMT
#685
Overall I really like the changes. Not sure how practical the new terran units will be though.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
November 07 2014 22:45 GMT
#686
On November 08 2014 07:38 Hexe wrote:
Today is the day StarCraft ended as a real sport and became just a game, like every other videogame. The serperation between masters level players and pros will be cut in half.

How? Every new unit has an active ability that encourages micro on both sides, and a lot of the changes to existing units make them more micro-intensive also. The economy changes also have the potential to make macro more difficult as well.
vibeo gane,
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 07 2014 22:45 GMT
#687
On November 08 2014 07:42 Ansinjunger wrote:
Just saw this
Show nested quote +

Automated tournaments run once per day at a specific time, open to all players


Finally! This will give me so much reason to play in small amounts, no matter how much I lose. It just seems so enticing to try and win one tournament rather than go from rank 25 to rank 5 in the sub-masters leagues. Plus I really hope there are icons attached.

12 workers seems like a bit much, the cheese timing will be kind of early compared to scout timing (especially PvZ, where you often want to 9 pylon scout).

On the other hand, I wonder if it's just my greed wanting to beat lower level players in team games talking. Some people still don't build early workers properly (queuing too much or gaps between building them). I'm trying to wrap my head around whether the change is not as big as it seems.


Yeah the automated tournament is the one thing that I whole heartedly love about this announcement. Archon mode might actually make two things.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
November 07 2014 22:45 GMT
#688
Looks like Blizzard are making changes for the spectators AND the players, Bravo!

Different and New is a good thing. I for one didn't want HoTS with 2 units cut and 3 NEW units each race. THATS NOT interesting for players.

So happy and hyped. Here's to the future strat's found and the Epic games to be played
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 07 2014 22:45 GMT
#689
I would've picked zerg if they had the lurker back in the wol beta, oh well.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 07 2014 22:46 GMT
#690
Holy shit. Biggest changes ever. I wonder how the first season of WCS will look. Symbol will make a comeback with nydus ravager attacks.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
November 07 2014 22:46 GMT
#691
On November 08 2014 07:36 CakeSauc3 wrote:
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On November 08 2014 07:34 starslayer wrote:
hmmmm as a terran player im ?unimpressed? not sure what word to use really not compared to the other races with the luker and oracle mines, terrans units are very idk boring lame idk not sure how i feel obv its still like alpha and things will change but not a fan so far of terran the rest Omg cant wait.


I can't wait to do insane tank/medivac micro. Am really excited to try the new Bio composition vs ling/bling. And I have a whole new reason to do a BC rush now



dont get me wrong terran looks sick im just not sure about them ofc everthings can still change so i guess ill wait before im all pessimitic lol ofc im getting it and ofc im terran.
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10710 Posts
November 07 2014 22:46 GMT
#692
On November 08 2014 07:26 Psione wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 04:54 Zealously wrote:
Regardless of whether or not these LotV changes are GOOD, they are massive. That, by definition, is great for Starcraft. The community has been demanding changes to blow the game open and allow it to be the best it can be. Some of these things may sound weird now, but things will change and Blizzard has shown that they're now willing to make big changes to have the best game they possibly can.

So hyped.

As should be expected early on, many things can and will change from now until release. Definitely keep the feedback coming (we'll be listening), but I would also suggest checking out the Multiplayer panel on Saturday at 2:15 PM PST. The team will be talking about the changes in-depth and their thoughts behind them. It should help answer a lot of the questions people may have right now.


Wow blizz employee?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 07 2014 22:47 GMT
#693
Bases will now mine at maximum efficiency with 12 workers instead of 16 now

How was this accomplished? Did they change mining behavior or did they just decrease mineral patches to 6?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 07 2014 22:47 GMT
#694
On November 08 2014 07:45 kju wrote:
I would've picked zerg if they had the lurker back in the wol beta, oh well.


I don't think changing races will be that hard with LotV.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 07 2014 22:47 GMT
#695
On November 08 2014 07:46 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:26 Psione wrote:
On November 08 2014 04:54 Zealously wrote:
Regardless of whether or not these LotV changes are GOOD, they are massive. That, by definition, is great for Starcraft. The community has been demanding changes to blow the game open and allow it to be the best it can be. Some of these things may sound weird now, but things will change and Blizzard has shown that they're now willing to make big changes to have the best game they possibly can.

So hyped.

As should be expected early on, many things can and will change from now until release. Definitely keep the feedback coming (we'll be listening), but I would also suggest checking out the Multiplayer panel on Saturday at 2:15 PM PST. The team will be talking about the changes in-depth and their thoughts behind them. It should help answer a lot of the questions people may have right now.


Wow blizz employee?

Yeah, he is from Blizzard. Mostly lurking here.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
November 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#696
On November 08 2014 07:38 JoeCool wrote:
It feels like this is Blizzards desperate attempt to make SC 2 casual friendly...

By making micro play a much bigger role and making expanding much more important? They are trying to bring back the hardcore RTS fans and the BW old timers. Micro is cooler to watch then composition wars so the ESport should get a lot better and hopefully more popular.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#697
On November 08 2014 07:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:45 kju wrote:
I would've picked zerg if they had the lurker back in the wol beta, oh well.


I don't think changing races will be that hard with LotV.


Everyone is already playing zerg, now it will be even more ZvZ... Oh god...
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#698
On November 08 2014 07:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 07:45 kju wrote:
I would've picked zerg if they had the lurker back in the wol beta, oh well.


I don't think changing races will be that hard with LotV.

That's probably also a maybe-hidden effect. If you want to try out a different race but you play competitively, now's your chance!
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iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 22:49:04
November 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#699
My initial thoughts.

New Units

Pretty disappointed with where Blizzard's at thus far. The only unit I like isn't a new unit at all. My "favourite" (ignoring Lurker) would have to be the HERC, just because it seems to have some neat micro potential, but even that feels gimmicky. Seems like a major overlap with the original intent of the Hellbat overall (anti-ling/bane). I guess one could make the argument that now both bio and mech have their own reasonable (but unique) responses to mass ling/bane, potentially opening up different play styles.

Disruptor feels as crazy as the replicator was in terms of lack of balance viability. 4 second invulnerability + AoE explosion... match that with the new distance pick-up of the warp prism, and you have absurd drops; welcome hellbat drops 2.0! I expect Blizzard will implement some some major revisions to the unit going forward.

Old Unit Updates

Pretty happy with these aside from the Corrupter. Balance aside, there are some really cool concepts coming out of this, and if there's one thing I'm especially happy with it's the changes to the Swarm Host. Very happy to see the concept modified in an effort to remove its snowball nature. Lurker's always been a superior design for Zerg positional play/siege capability.

Tempest was a unit I never liked, so seeing its role limited is quite nice. Terran and Zerg can actually make some Vikings/Corruptors to deal with them and not worry about being constantly poked into forced engagements with no recourse.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
November 07 2014 22:49 GMT
#700
I already hate playing against muta/corruptor in PvZ. With Corruptors being able to take down buildings quickly... I forsee many headaches.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
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